250k per week would turn my head around too.
Moyes has to go
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250k per week would turn my head around too.
He was fine up to the New Year. Eight points off top, going well in all the cups. Not great, but perfectly tolerable first half of the season. Since then, however, we've turned into a relegation-level outfit, and it's astonishing if they're not at least thinking about getting rid of him.
In terms of Chelsea sackings (which seems to be the bar the club measures its morals against), we're way beyond Mourinho and Carlo, have gone past Scolari and Di Matteo and are now into full-on AVB territory.
In two months we've gotten progressively worse. I'm not sure how much worse it can get. I guess we'll find out at the Hawthorns against the team that beat us at home. And then again when Liverpool come to Old Trafford.
The media are taking far too much enjoyment out of quashing this rumour, he's like the Scottish Redknapp or something.
This has to happen now or very soon that way we can get a new manager in for the final few games of the season, hopefully we can secure the europa league place (feck you if you think we're above that, seriously. feck you) and in that time he can access the squad without much pressure giving him plenty of time to pick out transfer targets in tge summer.
He's failing the players as much as they're failing him and I genuinely believe that.
He won't get sacked until xmas next year once his £200m warchest team is 11th.
He won't get sacked until xmas next year once his £200m warchest team is 11th.
I so miss the days when our only problem as a team was really an awful midfield, a problem we all acknowledged and bemoaned but which rarely advanced beyond "potential" or "theoretical" problem, given we generally performed pretty damn well without one, with a few notable exceptions, principally in Europe. How Id love to go back to those innocent, carefree times.
Or he might be a smarter manager and work out which players to get rid of before taking on the role which seems to have happened at other clubs.
I don't think a manager really needs to spend 6 months with Young to work out if he is good enough for United or not.
Goon for hire here!
The media have been calling our squad shite for years, so it's no surprise that they'd put everything down to the team now that SAF genius is gone. As far as they're concerned, Moyes needs to sack the majority of them this summer and bring in his own players. I've heard it a million times throughout the season from so called professional pundits and it's bloody ridiculous. This squad really doesn't need a complete overhaul to finish at least 4th.
I really hope Woodward is out there talking to prospective managers, trying to get something lined up for the summer, so that when (if) someone else does take over they can hit the ground running.
The thing is, if we sacked him, is there anyone whatsoever, even the most vociferous of the 'let him build his own team' crowd, who'll be disappointed?
I'm pretty sure the responses will range from gunfire-in-the-streets elation to audible sighs of relief, but there certainly won't be any tears or tantrums.
I'm pretty sure the responses will range from gunfire-in-the-streets elation to audible sighs of relief, but there certainly won't be any tears or tantrums.
The media will harp on wax lyrical about how we're not giving British managers a chance or some shite.
The problem is:
A. Due to Moyes' interviews every single club in Europe knows we want a major rebuild in the summer and are going to fleece us
B. Without UCL football we'll be paying massive amounts for probably not our first choice players
C. I don't trust Moyes to rebuild this team
D. Its hard to get excited by "potential transfers" when the team currently is playing so badly
I dont think so @Kaos, not now. Its gone too far. And at least they have Rodgers flying the flag for British managers.
This is an interesting point. I think a lot of people feel that the late 'handover' to Moyes has played a part in our failings this season. So that being the case, IF there was some way we wanted to get rid of Moyes, it'd either have to be done during the season, to be announced early in the summer, or we'd have to act as soon as the league finished and hope we could get the right man pretty quickly.
There's a pretty fair argument that last summer, with both Pep and Mourinho becoming free, was the time to make this sort of move.
at United??
Also, when he's sacked (It's when, not if anymore) he won't end up with the full payoff but he'll still probably get a couple of million.
Think about that, a couple of million for being incompetent.
Think about that, a couple of million for being incompetent.
Yes?
He is like a Cancer that is being ignored until its too late. We are going to waste over 100m pounds on his fancy in the summer and still end up with nothing!
It just becomes more and more ridiculous the more you look at it. Two of the best managers in the world were available in the summer in which we were trying to replace the greatest manager ever, and what did we do?...Thats right, go and appoint a slightly better then mid table PL manager, who has never won anything. Its just madness. Infact, its actually scandalous really.
That's a very dangerous bar to aspire to. Not unless the club is absolutely minted. Chelsea's managerial churn has been incredibly expensive.
I am curious, though. Has any manager at any other big club ever survived such a lengthy run of poor form/results? (i.e. a win % no better than Moyes this deep into their first season)
And did such on a notion that being Scottish was this great thing. Nothing against being Scottish in general, but it's not the prevailing factor in getting a job at one of the biggest sporting clubs in the world.
The "by mutual consent" rumour starting to spread with this article:
http://www.forexlive.com/blog/2014/...-moyes-is-to-leave-man-utd-by-mutual-consent/
http://www.forexlive.com/blog/2014/...-moyes-is-to-leave-man-utd-by-mutual-consent/
Yeah last night has turned me. Up until last night I thought there was one or the other valid excuse each game that we sucked in. Yesterday was shocking though. I couldn't manufacture excuses for that even if I was paid for it.
It's a lot easier to just laugh. It's only football.
Please God...
Problem is spend £200m, these players need time to bed in, this will be a problem next season.
And we'll probably bring them in during the last hour of deadline day so they have to hit the ground running instead of buying them in July, giving them a preseason and not having them Cup-tied (Fellaini).
Please let it be true..
My next question: After Moyes is gone where we can find a good manager?
I thought all this 'stick with him' stuff from the club was based on the forgone assumption there would be a glimmer of hope worth letting develop.
We've seen no such thing, but it would seem the mentality is intact.
We've seen no such thing, but it would seem the mentality is intact.
No it's always been based on the idea it worked with Ferguson.
Would it be possible for quieroz to come in as interim manager while still having an appointment as Iran manager?
Sounds similar to the arrangement with Chelsea, Russia and Hiddink.
Is the express reliable?
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