He's heavy favourite to be sacked next with all of the bookies. Coral even have him at 6/4, jesus..
Moyes has to go
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Please let it be.
I will donate £50 to the caf if he's sacked before the end of the season.
Moyes said he had unlimited funds in the summer and it has been reported in various places, I think AVB even confirmed it, that we matched the Madrid bid for Bale. I'm convinced the money is there, if it isn't then Moyes wouldn't have spent £37m on Mata and said this is just the start and there will be many more.
It's a good point about Mourinho, I don't like him but it is becoming fairly obvious that we should have hired him.
On one hand, sometimes I do admire the club that he's still in a job. Any other big club in Europe and he'd have been gone by November.
On the other hand, I think we are batshit mental to keep backing him.
On the other hand, I think we are batshit mental to keep backing him.
Oh God, I've only just read his post match comments. So predictable yet depressing at the same time.
Worst we've played in Europe? It was your 7th game... Barring the Leverkusen games we have hardly set the world alight in the remainder of those. Don't act as if your Manchester United team are some European powerhouse.
Surprised by the level of performance? We have played like that in 95% of our games this season. If this surprises you then something is wrong.
"I take responsibility" ... A manager that says this after every other game has to be a worry?
"We are determined to put it right" ...again, where have we heard that before?
On the back of a good run? No we aren't... We improved against Palace and did well against Arsenal but our quality of football is still largely shite, and it's a disgrace that he ignores our poor run of form on the back of those two games.
He also plays on the fact that we are Manchester United all the time, as if he does not actually have to do anything himself to turn it around.
Worst we've played in Europe? It was your 7th game... Barring the Leverkusen games we have hardly set the world alight in the remainder of those. Don't act as if your Manchester United team are some European powerhouse.
Surprised by the level of performance? We have played like that in 95% of our games this season. If this surprises you then something is wrong.
"I take responsibility" ... A manager that says this after every other game has to be a worry?
"We are determined to put it right" ...again, where have we heard that before?
On the back of a good run? No we aren't... We improved against Palace and did well against Arsenal but our quality of football is still largely shite, and it's a disgrace that he ignores our poor run of form on the back of those two games.
He also plays on the fact that we are Manchester United all the time, as if he does not actually have to do anything himself to turn it around.
Club have denied it according to ITV
I wonder if they would have backed, say, our finance manager if he had been performing this poorly in his job....
Is he going to get a dreaded vote of confidence?
It also puts a different perspective on the "Fergie won't admit his mistake in recommending Moyes" theory. If the last remaining defence of Moyes is that our squad is merely performing to par (which I disagree with - it has weaknesses but it's not that bad) then Fergie may prefer throwing Moyes under a bus rather than acknowledging that he wasted large sums of money over the last few years signing sub-standard players.
does anyone know what Moyes record at United is so far (overall)? including win %
Noooooooooooooooo!!! Ahhhhh damn it.
He's in over his head, it's obvious to all except the ones whose opinion matters.
He won't be sacked IMO. The point to sack him and salvage 4th place is long gone, so what would their reason be for sacking him now? There were reasons Utd have chose to stand by him and that decision will have been made at some point knowing we aren't going to be in the top 4. Do people seriously think the board were hoping for us to win the CL? Deep down everyone knows at the club this is a step too far for us this year.
its horrible all this, i really wanted him to succeed (still do of course) but it really does look like the players aren't trying for him and that cannot be allowed to continue. it'll always be easier to replace the manager than a whole raft of players so i do wonder just how much more of this the board will take, RVPs comments in particular must raise some eyebrows with a lot of the staff
still think its likely that he'll get at least half of next season due to SAFs backing alone but anything beyond that will almost certainly rest on the quality of his signings because i'm not convinced he can get a good portion of the current lot playing for him
either way we've some tumultous times ahead methinks
still think its likely that he'll get at least half of next season due to SAFs backing alone but anything beyond that will almost certainly rest on the quality of his signings because i'm not convinced he can get a good portion of the current lot playing for him
either way we've some tumultous times ahead methinks
In the league its 48:22:30 (w:d:l)
I'm not so pessimistic if Moyes was given money to spend. He'd waste some of it, like most managers would, but I could see him bringing in good players to block up holes in our team. The worry is what he will do with these players. If Moyes takes the team we've got currently to seventh playing crap football, what's he going to do with this team when it has the reinforcements in the weakest areas? Take it to fourth while still playing dire stuff when it has the potential to challenge the title and do well in Europe?
Played 41. Won 22. Drawn 8. Lost 11. 53% win rate.
If he can't be trusted to bring about a revival then why maintain this...illusion? The board surely can't have the same confidence in him as they once did.
There are times when moral principles get in the way at our club. It will take relegation for SAF to admit he is wrong. Then if Moyes is sacked who comes in next Owen Coyle?
Would Ferguson be in contact with the player's at all? Probably not that much as he'd be wary of Busby O'Farrell syndrome, but I'm sure they'd be expressing major concern to Ferguson if they were.
I think the problem is the team has progressively gotten worse as we have gotten along. I think we'll probably sack him in the summer as the clause to sack him won't kick off till then.
You know what. I'm actually kinda sorry that we now don't play City this weekend. There is nothing worse in football for me than losing to City but with a right trashing maybe he would've been sacked. We lost our CL place this season, he spent nearly 70m on new players. What if we really give him the 150m and it doesn't work out, which is quite likely? The next manager will be on a very tight budget and must deal with the players Moyes got him.
He had 70m and blew it. I mean for christs sake this guy had a formal bid for Townsend in his September meltdown. Just look at the damage that the Comolli/KKK transfer window did to them. He needs to go.
He had 70m and blew it. I mean for christs sake this guy had a formal bid for Townsend in his September meltdown. Just look at the damage that the Comolli/KKK transfer window did to them. He needs to go.
I'm going to round up some goons, call the Sky cameras and head down to Old Trafford to fecking protest. This cannot go on for a few years in the name of tradition.
Headline on The Guardian also says he remains secure (no quotes though). In reality though, that just means no decision yet and is not necessarily a pointer to the summer or beyond.
The only way Moyes will go is if we just keep getting worse. If things start picking up, then he'll get longer and longer in the manager's seat.
Definitely a shift in momentum with regards to Moyes getting the sack, including myself.
That Guardian article is interesting as it pointed out the upcoming fixtures. I wonder if we lose to Liverpool and don't put up much of a fight in the 2nd leg and we go out of the CL, will the position be reconsidered?
That Guardian article is interesting as it pointed out the upcoming fixtures. I wonder if we lose to Liverpool and don't put up much of a fight in the 2nd leg and we go out of the CL, will the position be reconsidered?
To contrast... AVB at Spurs:
Played 54. Won 29. Drawn 12. Lost 13. 53.7% win rate - and a lower loss rate
But then we have another problem. A new manager again in the summer may give us the same problems we had in this year transfer window, as the he will want time to work with the players we currently have at the club.
Can it get any worse?
I'm not so sure it can get worse tbh. Before Rooney signed a new contract I thought he had lost the dressing room, but Rooney signing has made me think otherwise. I just can't get my head around it.
I highly doubt that they would, even if some of them are talking to him regularly. That wouldn't be wise, or professional.
You say that now. But Moyes has proven quite adept at proving the opposite.
Well I have it all panned out. Sack moyes as soon as Dortmund get eliminated from the CL, then get Klopp in straightaway. If it all goes to my calculations, Klopp will have maybe 4 or 5 games to test out these bunch and see what he needs to strengthen in the summer. I should be on the board.
Of course it can get worse. Things can always get worse.
Out of top 4 and not looking likely we'll get back in - Out of domestic cup competitions - On the brink of going out in Europe to a crap team - Playing week in, week out (bar the odd game) like a pub team. I suppose going out in Europe will make it worse, but by the Christ.
300k per week would probably turn my head around too.
We still have Liverpool and City to visit OT. They could easily embarrass us in front of out own fans.
Except he's on £250 grand.