Moyes has to go

Moyes out?

  • Knee jerk/I object to the term knee jerk because I told you he was going to be rubbish in 2003

    Votes: 296 80.4%

  • Head in sand/My name is Baghdad Bob and everything is going to be OK

    Votes: 72 19.6%
  • Total voters
    368
  • Poll closed .
Honestly he just doesn't seem cut out for the job. Why make so many changes to the team that did well against Palace, were not even playing on the weekend. The players seem to lack effort and motivation, that is at the feet of the manager. Like I have said, player's who are used to winning like our lot would only respond to winners or a manager who is here to play progressive/entertaining football. Moyes is neither. He never seems confident or assured in interviews, on the sidelines he seems like he has lost hope too.

There is a lot to do to the team back on track and i'm not sure I would trust him with that job. Even if we gave him Reus, Fabregas, Coentrao etc. what type of football would he have us playing. We have enough technical/flair players now that our play in the final 3rd should be much more fluid and inventive than it is now.

We gave him a sex year contract because of Fergie's recommendation
 
Pogue Mahone said:
EDIT: this post is probably going to get torn apart. Still think that the players we've signed/been linked with under Moyes are a step up from all the money spent on potential under Fergie.
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Well, wanting Fabregas was nice but wanting a player isn't enough, really.

Anyhow, obviously Moyes has gone a bit transfer muppet which is also why we got Mata - I'm not sure Fergie would have done the deal at that sort of money, and that possibly has been a problem in recent years. But not all our signings can be like that.
 
If the club managed to keep the Fergie situation under wraps for as long as they did any news with regard to Moyes could equally come out of the blue.

A lot of rumours on Twitter though, from Moyes and his legal team being present at Old Trafford to a possible announcement on the NYSE later.
 
FlawlessThaw said:
Not sure that's true. Taylor has been calling for Moyes' head right now.
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Oh I didn't say he's always supportive. Simply that they're obviously feeding him news, probably to mutual benefit.

Stories like this, this and this were all written by Taylor, all clearly had behind the scenes information only known to the club and were all stories that were designed to make United look good in the public eye (ie United probably released the information deliberately).
 
I would have thought that, if there is any substance to these rumours, the club would want/need to get an announcement out by start of trading on the NYSE or as soon as possible thereafter. I think it opens at 8.30, so we may have news in the next hour or so.
 
Mauzindark said:
Why are we defying all conventional wisdom and backing the man ? I just don't get it. :confused:
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Because we're Manchester United, and we're special.

Seriously though, while the world of football has drastically changed over the last 20-25 years, we were lucky to have a manager so good and with great longevity that we kept in touch with some of the old ways. But now that he's gone it's also our time to move forward. Which we haven't so far.
 
MoskvaRed said:
I would have thought that, if there is any substance to these rumours, the club would want/need to get an announcement out by start of trading on the NYSE or as soon as possible thereafter. I think it opens at 8.30, so we may have news in the next hour or so.
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Knowing our luck it will be a contract extension for Moyes.
 
The whole thing is like a bad dream.


For years I had the thought of life without Fergie, "we'll appreciate what we had when he has gone" and the usual thoughts like that. I assumed though, being the machine that we are, we would use our name to attract the best man for the job. Mourinho or Guardiola would fall over themselves trying to get to us.


We get David fecking Moyes. Completely incompetent, uninspirational, tactically inept, stylistically void and enough charisma to make David Cameron look like Freddie Murcury. Just feck off and give us our club back you utter, utter turd.
 
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Pexbo said:
We get David fecking Moyes. Completely incompetent, inspirational, tactically inept, stylistically void and enough charisma to make David Cameron look like Freddie Murcury. Just feck off and give us our club back you utter, utter turd.
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.... Did you think inspirational was a negative because it begins with "in"?! :lol:

Also, I would genuinely love to see David Cameron dress up as Freddie Mercury.
 
it's actually depressing at this stage that we could easily have gotten Mourinho but went for Moyes instead, what sort of logic is that? Get arguably the best manager in the world, or get someone who's Scottish? Well the latter's clearly the best approach!
 
I wonder if the club has sounded out anyone to see if they'd be open to coming here in the summer, Klopp maybe.
 
KiD MoYeS said:
I wonder if the club has sounded out anyone to see if they'd be open to coming here in the summer, Klopp maybe.
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If they sack him now then I doubt it as yesterday's game would be the turning point. It would give them 3 months to find a decent replacement though.
 
Annihilate Now! said:
.... Did you think inspirational was a negative because it begins with "in"?! :lol:

Also, I would genuinely love to see David Cameron dress up as Freddie Mercury.
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my phone autocorrected from uninspirational :(
 
I think the rumours are false, started by the bookies lowering the odds on him getting sacked.
He doesn't deserve to stay but I think he will.
 
It's amazing how many 'two steps forward and 10 steps' back' moments that our season has had. I'm almost expecting a disaster of a result to follow when we manage at least two decent results in a row. Moyes is cursed. :lol:
 
So much of this is down to timing and luck. What happens if we're ready to get rid of him and there's no one good enough available? Our next appointment has to be someone with trophies to his name and a reputation the players can be fearful/respectful of; there's only a handful of them in the game. If we're struggling in December but there's no quality manager available, feck knows what we'll do.
 
Mickeza said:
There's no way he's going to be sacked, he will get until Christmas. And I do believe he has £200m to spend this summer, I really think people are going to be surprised by how many players leave and come in.
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I think - if given a huge amount of money to spend - he would actually, probably bring in some decent players (he has brought in Mata afterall)... but I'm still not convinced we'd play good football with them.

We'll also probably end up losing some good players (Hernandez, Kagawa, RVP) at the same time though. If Moyes doesn't go now (he won't) I imagine when he does go (around this time next year-ish) he could leave us with a decent side.

Or you know, he could rip the haert and soul out of this side, and leave us with a pool of blood. Either-Or really.
 
Mickeza said:
There's no way he's going to be sacked, he will get until Christmas. And I do believe he has £200m to spend this summer, I really think people are going to be surprised by how many players leave and come in.
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If the squad was managed properly, it wouldn't have needed such wholesale changes.

We're looking at losing player that should be key players at the club or at least still have a lot to offer.

Nani, Evra, Vidic, Kagawa, Van Persie, Hernandez to name a few.



Hernandez is my biggest gripe in all this. A player that averaged a goal every two games or there abouts under Fergie and was a fantastic super sub has just had his confidence kicked to smithereens and we'll lose him for next to nothing in the summer. He's a great lad and a top player, he should be sticking with us for years.
 
Mickeza said:
There's no way he's going to be sacked, he will get until Christmas. And I do believe he has £200m to spend this summer, I really think people are going to be surprised by how many players leave and come in.
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Absolutely. There are, at least, 4 or 5 players that will/need to go.
 
Mickeza said:
There's no way he's going to be sacked, he will get until Christmas. And I do believe he has £200m to spend this summer, I really think people are going to be surprised by how many players leave and come in.
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I'm not clued up regarding our financials, but I believe our last report had us with something like 70m pound cash, before the Mata signing. Where do we get 200m from?

Seriously, this season surely must make the Glazers wary of letting Moyes spend that sort of money.
 
KiD MoYeS said:
It's doing the rounds on Twitter, probably bollocks.
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As with so many of these Twitter rumours, it's being largely driven by bookie accounts.

Team X plays badly, people therefore have a cheeky punt on Team X's manager to be sacked, bookies naturally reduce the odds of it happening, then start up with the 'Odds on Manager to be sacked tumbling'! promotional tweets. And because those accounts have a nice blue tick next to them, people take it seriously. It then becomes a 'strong rumour' that develops a momentum of its own, even when there's absolutely nothing in it.
 
I've no doubt in my mind he'll rip this squad asunder in the summer, and at the same time spend millions of the Glazer's money bringing in new talent. Doesn't mean we'll get any better. Moyes need to go on some sort of UEFA course in the meantime.
 
Even if this turns out to be bogus it is telling in itself that such a rumour could take hold.
 
Amir said:
I'm not clued up regarding our financials, but I believe our last report had us with something like 70m pound cash, before the Mata signing. Where do we get 200m from?

Seriously, this season surely must make the Glazers wary of letting Moyes spend that sort of money.
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I think people are selectively choosing to believe Balague.
 
Amir said:
I'm not clued up regarding our financials, but I believe our last report had us with something like 70m pound cash, before the Mata signing. Where do we get 200m from?

Seriously, this season surely must make the Glazers wary of letting Moyes spend that sort of money.
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If I were the glazers I wouldn't trust this man with my money. Although to be fair to moyes, he does seem to be looking at some really good players.
 
pocco said:
Even if we sack Moyes, I don't think we'll ever go for Klopp. It'll be Gary Neville or someone like McClaren for a while.
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If we sacked Moyes before the end of the season, yeah, I think Giggs is most likely. But in the summer that could change.
 
Mickeza said:
There's no way he's going to be sacked, he will get until Christmas. And I do believe he has £200m to spend this summer, I really think people are going to be surprised by how many players leave and come in.
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Based on his track record over the season so far, they would be absolutely insane to give this man 200 million to spend.
 
If we really do spend that much money it'll take yet another season of trying to gel and get us playing like any sort of team. So two write off seasons.
 
Freak said:
If I were the glazers I wouldn't trust this man with my money. Although to be fair to moyes, he does seem to be looking at some really good players.
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Which is nice, at least when the inevitable happens the next manager will have good players around like Mata (unless Mourinho somehow comes to OT and promptly sells him again).
 
Mickeza said:
There's no way he's going to be sacked, he will get until Christmas. And I do believe he has £200m to spend this summer, I really think people are going to be surprised by how many players leave and come in.
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I find that hard to believe. It's one thing coming up short against Europe's elite or City and Chelsea but, whatever deficiencies there are in the squad (and most of acknowledge there are a few), there are no excuses for last night or the debacle against Sunderland in the league cup. My last hope for Moyes was that he would start making more of our attacking resources in the final part of the season, and, after the Palace game, I thought there may be a chink of light. Last night removed any illusions on that score - back to square one with two plodding wingers who "put in a shift" with Adnan absent and Kagawa given a short run when the game was lost (plus our big midfield signing benched in favour of a man with a great future behind him). There is no ample evidence to suggest it won't get better and he does not deserve be trusted with the long withheld transfer splurge.
 
The word coming out of United before Moyes was appointed was "We don't want no shotgun manager." Which sort of pointed to a manger coming in and ripping the team apart with new signings galore José style. If the rumour is true and 200m will be spent then what would have been the difference of appointing Mourinho?
 
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