I would take Redknapp here certainly, that's how bad things have got. Players like and respect him.
Moyes has to go
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I would take Redknapp here certainly, that's how bad things have got. Players like and respect him.
My biggest issue with him is that he's tactically inept. Brendan Rodgers has and Arsene Wenger has had far worse teams in terms of overall talent than what we currently do, yet they were able to get the most out of their squad by utilizing tactics that would enable them to get the most out of their team. And they were successful and didn't have them playing as badly as we have all season bar 3 games. Clearly something has been wrong with us this season and Moyes hasn't done anything to remedy the situation and we carry on with this shit show. Even a decent manager wouldn't carry on with something that hasn't been working, yet Moyes seems content on sticking to whatever the hell it is he's doing currently that isn't working.
And all this about Sir Alex's "stand by your new manager" quote which alot gets made out of it. I'd be willing to bet an inch off my you know what that when he said that he'd of never thought we'd be in the position we currently are in, or he would've stuck around a couple more years. He probably said that thinking that we might not win the title for a few seasons and to be patient. Not because he thought we would fail to get into 4th.
And all this about Sir Alex's "stand by your new manager" quote which alot gets made out of it. I'd be willing to bet an inch off my you know what that when he said that he'd of never thought we'd be in the position we currently are in, or he would've stuck around a couple more years. He probably said that thinking that we might not win the title for a few seasons and to be patient. Not because he thought we would fail to get into 4th.
I don't think he should leave now, so I voted no.
This very thread and the pole were created in response to the performance against Olympiakos, it isn't asking whether he should leave in ten years or in two, and it isn't asking whether he should leave at the end of the season. It's quite apparent it is asking whether he should leave now, so I voted no.
I stated my reasons in the comments, I think he should stay because I think there is probably a clause in his contract where we could force him to leave costing us nothing at the end of the season if his objective performance measurements don't meet the requirements, on the chance such a clause exists I view it futile him leaving now.
What is wrong with voting and then posting my reasons for voting?
Don't think those are the actual nay votes.
Would you rather...
Two more years of Moyes and we finish 4th or Moyes is sacked tomorrow and we win the league?
Second option every day for me. I hate you feckers but I love United more than I hate you.
What are the chances that we'll sign Kroos? Seriously?
Saying that he can't do more harm than what he has done so far is a bit naive. 'We can't do worse' was another sentence that we heard many times on November/December and since the turn of the year we have 7 defeats in 12 games. I am convinced that the worst hasn't come yet.
Would you rather...
Two more years of Moyes and we finish 4th or Moyes is sacked tomorrow and we win the league?
Most of our games in a season are Premier League, he had shown enough to say he can succeed at that level, Champions league is higher however up to tonight the teams done fine in the competition
Is it not legal to insert a clause for the contract to terminate if he fails to keep his end of the bargain so in this case deliver a top four finish?
I'm not a lawyer so I don't really know.
Whats the count at this point of the season - 9 i think!
This whole shite that its gonna get worse before it gets better doesnt wash. Why should it be gettin worse ffs? Surely it should be gettin better already, given that the backroom team have been there since July. They're out of their feckin depth & makin us a feckin laughing stock with the ABU's who are all coming out of the closet in massive numbers...
98% 
Had me up line!
Had me up line!wow, 88% want him gone...this was about 20-25% a couple of months back.
interesting to see the caf turn on him so quickly. if only we can get this message through to the board and Fergie now.
interesting to see the caf turn on him so quickly. if only we can get this message through to the board and Fergie now.
I have to say that im really turning against Moyes now, that was the worst performance for years. No desire whatsoever, no one looked bothered appart from maybe Welbeck when he came on. Valencia, Young and Cleverly were an embarrassment. Ferdinand showed this evening that he truly has lost it at the top level, an abysmal performance from him and everyone else.
A few crushing home defeats to our fiercest rivals?
To set up and play the way we are doing, wasting the attacking players we have is just wrong. Has to go, if he can't use the players at his disposal to their strengths, that's it for me. Scandalous, sickening to see. I have to work with a load of scousers tomoro, I might pull a sickie.
I was saying give him 2 years assuming we'd still be in the top 4. How stupid I was. You dont inherit a team that wins the league by 11 points and have the season he is having. I'd be very suprised if he was still here in the summer.
as well as changing the good but stickin with the bad. makes little sense
It was a comparison of two teams in the same league, with a common link. The coaching staff.
One team has improved upon the change taking place, the other has dropped 4/5 places. Let's noy forget that Martinez relegated his previous club.
I'm not even going to mention money spent, because the two players haven't really had much time to change things.
I think there were many hovering on the fence who voted no, and have finally been pushed over the edge.
I'd happily have seen him sacked in July personally to be replaced by someone who actually deserved the job.
If Liverpool keep pace in the title race and turn us over at Old Trafford things could get ugly for Moyes.
I don't think he'll spend 100 million on Osman and Jelavic, is what I mean.
The season is done. We were never going to win the CL. We're out of all the cups. What worse could happen? We're as low as we can get as far as this season is done. If there is no improvement a few months into next season, get rid
You don't have to take it as dismisal if someone disagrees with you
No, I am not confident that Moyes can turn this around
I think that we will get humiliated by City and Liverpool at home and between them we will get eleminated from Olympiacos.
But no, that wasn't exactly my point. Our playing style (IMO) will degenerate even further. Unless Moyes basically replaces almost all of our players we won't be playing better.
That's the thing though, what record at everton? It was an underwhelming appointment but there was some sense of belief that it might be some genius foresight on our part to take him over others, like many decisions SAF made over the years, "won't win anything with Kids" an example, but this is not happening, and it is not happening so bad that it is not going to improve. So we are in this position where the football World to it's lowest gimp can see it is a joke going nowhere versus the club's (whovever the decision makers are) stubbornness to try and prove it right.
He'll be gone, we can take a lot as a club but a hiding from either Liverpool or City will see him sacked
We got a hiding from City already.
Play even worse, get embarrased by City/Liverpool, all players lose completely the confidence and by the time we decide to sack him next season we might be again out of the race for the fourth place (especially with players who will be completely destroyed). And some money burned on some shit players after we can't get our unrealistic targets. By the time the new manager will come, our team might be completely destroyed.
Basically this is my worst case scenario and unfortunately I don't think that is far from reality if we don't get rid of Moyes on the summer. If we give him time until Christmass (IMO) it would be free money to win if we bet that we won't qualify for UCL yet again.
That doesnt bear thinking about.
Moyes only chance of saving something from the season is to beat Liverpool and also put together some decent performances.
£22 million spent in 10 years leaving a greatly improved squad, a good record with finding players, a club well secure in the top half of the table
He's won 3 games (4 counting the tie we lost to Sunderland) since January 1st, while losing 6 and drawing 2. It's not hard to see why the majority of the caf thinks he should go. To manage that with United is an impressive feat.
That makes no sense considering they don't even play in the same position, and why not even place him on the bench?
Gollum..
Who fecked the poll up then
So has everyone at their patch (bar Chelsea!)