Mourinho to United | Officially Announced

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Interesting but a bit outdated itself. LVG in his two years at United brought in Ajax/Barca style possession, but also combined with a bit of hoof ball for the bread and butter of the premiership. It was showing signs of promise, but it is a tough league, where even the most talented will struggle against big defenders and packed defences. Jose has the initial advantage in that he knows English football, but even tika-taka itself is changing; witness BM this year or PSG. Leicester and Spurs have shown the merits of some old ways of doing things in a fresh way. Jose will have ... hopefully ...had time to take stock of what went wrong at Chelsea. I agree with the writer that he needs to update his style, and develop a tactical level that he hasn't shown. Do you think the United institution and fandom will stand for him parking the bus?
 
A poster from the newbies claimed that, after his (first?) stint with Chelsea, there was a newspaper in Portugal with an interview with Mourinho, in which he stated, that one of his long-term goals in football was to stay at Man Utd, like SAF, for a long time. Did anyone find anything on that? I can't seem to find it when Googling, was it just a ruse from the newbie?

I've never heard any quotes like that from him but i have always suspected as much since he was sacked by Chelsea the first time around.

He loves england, and going as far back as 2009 when we played Inter in the CL and the way he spoke about United and SAF it always seemed (to me anyway) that he definitely wanted to be United manager one day. He has massive respect for Fergie and i think he loved the idea of being in total control of a club like Ferguson was.
 
Wont be announced today so I'm getting off twitter and getting some work done :lol:

Expect it to be done and dusted by Thursday
 
Adam Mckola from full time devils talking quite a bit of sense in my opinion.


Ive got a lot of time for Adam McKola personally, I think he does talk a lot of sense.

He contradicts himself a bit tho. The guy asks him if we should be thinking more long term, he says he thinks the opposite, that the era of long term managers is over. But then five minutes later he comes back and says City got one over on us by looking more long term, having Guardiola lined up even before Pellegrini was appointed. Small point though, I agree with the rest of it. No knowing how the next couple of years is going to work out but after two massively underwhelming managers, the expectation of fireworks, either good or bad, at least makes it exciting.
 
I've never heard any quotes like that from him but i have always suspected as much since he was sacked by Chelsea the first time around.

He loves england, and going as far back as 2009 when we played Inter in the CL and the way he spoke about United and SAF it always seemed (to me anyway) that he definitely wanted to be United manager one day. He has massive respect for Fergie and i think he loved the idea of being in total control of a club like Ferguson was.

Definitely remember something along these lines, although this is the closest quote I can find:

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...as-landed-as-Jose-Mourinho-is-back-at-Chelsea

“At 50, I’m still young as a manager. It’s up to me to show I deserve to be here for a long time. I have a contract for four years, and I hope to go to the last day of that contract. Then, if the club wants me to stay, I will be more than happy."

edit: this article certainly tries to spin it along the legacy/dynasty lines:
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/12/23/sport/football/mourinho-wants-chelsea-dynasty/

Maybe that's what I was thinking of. Don't think the quotes quite say that.
 

Sky sources
:Breaking news

Jose Mourinho is close to agreeing personal terms with Manchester United to become their new manager

http://www.skysports.com/football/live-blog/11667/10290052/man-utd-to-appoint-jose-live
Sky Sports News HQ
has been told that the financial elements of the deal are not something Mourinho is overly concerned with, and that his motivation is the challenge of restoring Manchester United to the position of Europe’s top club.

Good to hear, although hardly surprising! While we can argue the toss about who the biggest / most prestigious club he has worked with is, its clear that emulating SAF is the biggest challenge for him.
 
Ive got a lot of time for Adam McKola personally, I think he does talk a lot of sense.

He contradicts himself a bit tho. The guy asks him if we should be thinking more long term, he says he thinks the opposite, that the era of long term managers is over. But then five minutes later he comes back and says City got one over on us by looking more long term, having Guardiola lined up even before Pellegrini was appointed. Small point though, I agree with the rest of it. No knowing how the next couple of years is going to work out but after two massively underwhelming managers, the expectation of fireworks, either good or bad, at least makes it exciting.

Whilst it's good for City they planned in advance, Guardiola is unlikely to be a long term appointment based on his history with other clubs. I'm sure City are aware of this though and will probably have another manager lined up.
 
SSN are saying our lawyers are drawing up a contract today with a view to being presented by the end of the week.
 
This has been a long time coming. I remember thinking about him being a certain to become MUFC manager some day after I saw his interview when his RM side beat us in the CL. The match when Cnuty Cackir gave Nani that red card.

He was almost apologetic that he had beat us, and this is Mourinho, a person who never fails at poking fun at opponents. I dont think he ever has had anything negative to say about us, even when the rivalry was at it's fiercest in his first spell with Chelsea.
 
I'm glad this is being swiftly done before the euros.
 
Please let it be done today.. I've a week off and I don't want to spend it refreshing redcafe :lol:
 


"Mourinho has just closed its contract with @ManUtd total agreement. Rui Faria will be his second and have to define the role of Giggs."
 
Slightly nervous about the appointment but given the lack of options probably seems the best one available. Just hope he's learnt from the Chelsea experience and will approach the United job in a more dignified manner.
 
I think, and I'm not sure if this is 100% correct, Zlatan is a taekwondo black-belt! And considering his size....I don't think it'll be much of a rumble.
Taekwondo sucks but you don't want to be on the receiving end of those kicks from a 6'5 hulk...
 
Please remember to read the thread title before posting obviously fake tweets.
 
Ive got a lot of time for Adam McKola personally, I think he does talk a lot of sense.

He contradicts himself a bit tho. The guy asks him if we should be thinking more long term, he says he thinks the opposite, that the era of long term managers is over. But then five minutes later he comes back and says City got one over on us by looking more long term, having Guardiola lined up even before Pellegrini was appointed. Small point though, I agree with the rest of it. No knowing how the next couple of years is going to work out but after two massively underwhelming managers, the expectation of fireworks, either good or bad, at least makes it exciting.
What I took from that was when they first talked about long term managers. He was then talking about long term with City already planning for Pep when Mancini was in charge, not necessarily any manager staying long term like Fergie or Wenger.
 
Who's talking about one and a half to two seasons? The suggestion is that he had a non-compete clause for this season that he mutually agreed to for the terms of his settlement.
He'll have been compensated for signing up with that clause. It makes sense from Chelsea's perspective. With a title winning squad it wasn't beyond the realms of possibility that they put together a good string of results and get back into European contention with over half the season to go and an FA Cup to play for. It makes sense to have a clause like that as any team he might sign for would obviously be having a similar season (hence parting with a manager) and as such would be direct competitors for a Europa League or with a huge amount of luck, Champions League.

It's not "good business" to install these sort of clauses, it's blindingly obvious. You're agreeing a massive pay off anyway so you're bound to put in terms that could be beneficial to you.


Agree and I never disputed any of what you just wrote. Or at least I never intended to.

So again, with regards to the non-competing clause, it would then be stipulated as a maximum of 12 months non-compete clause (and whatever minimum if that was deemed necessary by any party). It would make sense for both parties at the time, as you said, to include the clause as Chelsea would argue it's common business practice and Mourinho being a comfortable as ever of handling his job.

So essentially that would leave Mourinho out for the upcoming 2016/2017 season had he been sacked at the end of this season. However, as we assume the same length applies to the current situation where he has been sacked a good 6 months earlier, he would have to wait and return no earlier than for the 2017/2018 season.

Essentially since
a) Mourinho is being line-up as our next manager as of now (there were reports earlier that he spoke about being certain where he would end-up in management come July this year) and
b) any non-compete clause shorter than 12 months would make little sense from Chelsea side, which Mourinho had mutually agree on, then
c) such clause had probably be mutually terminated when Chelsea were mid-season at the time of the sacking and there was no competitor on the hunt for a manager.

Last option would be that such clause never existed which would be catastrophic business practice on Chelsea's behalf.
 
Aside from the fact Jose always hires him, do we actually know much about Rui Faria?
 
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