Never but don't let facts get into their way.
Mourinho to United | Officially Announced
- Thread starter Massive Spanner
- Start date
- Status
Never but don't let facts get into their way.
He loaned him for close to nothing.
Excellent post. When Mourinho lifts our first post Fergie PL trophy, few will give a shit what he did along the way
He paid over 200k a week!
A legacy for his successor, what feck are on about and regardless of that Chelsea were winning trophies using the bulk of the team he built years after he had left the club.
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...r-united-have-sacked-david-moyes-9274312.html
https://www.theguardian.com/football/poll/2014/feb/26/david-moyes-manchester-united-manager-poll
Yep, internet polls (half of whom are voted on by oppo fans and assorted wums) are a great way to determine a United manager's success. Now, I'm definitely worried about United appointing Mourinho, what with the collective internet brain trust being wary of him.
Rooney Martial James Wilson Will Keane - Rashford wasn't in the plans.
Fair play to him for not doing something stupid like putting Young up front and giving Rashford the chance on the recommendation of Joyce. However LVG didn't plan for this, Rashford wasn't on tour
Also fair play to him for sticking by Rashford and not putting Rooney back up top when he was fit.
Surely any poll suggesting Jose Mourinho will be a flop is more based on United's current quality as opposed to his managerial capability?
It could blow up spectacularly, but at least it'll still be entertaining. However, it could, and more likely should, be the proper sign of post-SAF intent that most of us have been waiting for. He's an elite manager with the job of making an elite club competitive again.
It could blow up spectacularly, but at least it'll still be entertaining. However, it could, and more likely should, be the proper sign of post-SAF intent that most of us have been waiting for. He's an elite manager with the job of making an elite club competitive again.
Mourinho close to Manchester United move as removal men pictured at his London home
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...ll-news/man-utd-news-mourinho-latest-11373692
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...ll-news/man-utd-news-mourinho-latest-11373692
The same Falcao that paid a much higher fee to loan?
Indeed.
You really think that? Come on, use just a little common sense.
If a poll was put up asking "Do you think Guardiola will succeed in the Prem?", regardless of opinion, how would most United fans vote? How would most Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal and Spurs fans vote?
Like I've said before, if you collected honest opinions from rival fans, Mourinho is the number one manager they do not want managing us. If you go back to Fergie leaving, rival fans would have preferred Klopp, Guardiola, Ancelotti... anyone rather than Mourinho taking over.
Namely anyone supporting Chelsea, City, Arsenal and Liverpool.
Another point the Mourinho detractors love to ignore. The spine of Cech, Terry, Lampard and Drogba lasted long after he left.
Or the fact Madrid won La Decima the season after he left, or Porto still dominated the Portuguese league.
Just look at how Rafa messed up Inter, and it was all Jose's fault.
I completely understand the need for a proven winner at the club, he has my support (not that he needs it). In the absence of another Ferguson who can deliver success with attacking football and academy players I think we had little choice but to go with Mourinho. You can guarantee we will finish in the top 4 next year at the very least.
The evidence basically shows that unless we appoint the Waiter after Jose, we should be okay.
Meanwhile, Jose is desperate to win the Champions League with an english club.
We play with one striker and 4 of them were injured, he never planned with Rashford.
When you trim the first team squad then it's not a bloody coincidence that young players get a chance - that was his strategy from the start. If there's one thing that's predictable it's Manchester United having an injury crisis.
At least Woodward seems to have come round to making the obvious appointments, hope he keeps it up when the need arises to appoint someone else.
Do you know any more details of the contract?
Yeah, his perfomance-based bonuses were based on poll results.
He was the 5th choice, there isn't a team in Europe that uses 1 striker and have 4 substitutes that aren't young players, he deserves no credits for that. Now he does deserve credits for not playing Fellaini upfront against Midgetland unlike against Liverpool.
"So now, if the leak is to be believed, the United board have thrown their lot in with one of the few managers in football who can credibly claim the mantle “proven winner”. So desperate are the club for a man who can propel them into the Champions League that they have ridden roughshod over the concerns of some directors, who have witnessed the trail of destruction that Mourinho has left in his wake at every club he has touched."
It's very hard to see how he left a trail of destruction at Porto, Chelsea first time, Inter and Real Madrid.
"When Ferguson left, the club faltered. He had been there so long, the club danced so completely to his inimitable beat, that perhaps this was inevitable. The club couldn’t disentangle themselves from the dynamics of his connection to their most basic functions, just as Wilf McGuinness and Frank O’Farrell faltered in the aftermath of Busby. This is one of the problems when an institution is run with absolutism. As one colleague put it: who ever heard of Attila the Second?
Given time, however, United would have rediscovered their mojo. A new manager, sufficiently separated in space and time from Ferguson, would have brought the club back to glory. But in appointing Mourinho, the board have taken a vast gamble. They are confident that the Portuguese will improve short-term results, but what then? I sense no appetite from fans to have a manager, even a moderately successful one, who brings the club into disrepute, as he surely will."
Not sure what he is on about here. It took United 25 years to win the title after Busby and Liverpool have now exceeded that. It doesn't just magically come together after time you need to hire the proper manager which is what we have done now imo
Based on the fact that he was fifth when we had the tour? It was LVG's strategy of having a smaller experienced squad so that when there were injuries or players aren't in form, a player from the academy gets a chance. It's not a coincidence when that strategy results in one or two young players stepping up to the plate when they are given a chance.
And I thought that City were the victims of negative press... [/sarc]
I must be living in a parallel universe. Aside from Chelsea this season, what club has he left in turmoil from a playing perspective?
Chelsea (1st time) went on to be successful after him and reached the CL final in the same season he left (with his players). Inter was fecked up by Rafa after winning the bloody treble. Madrid were fine and Carlo won the CL shortly after.
He definitely has a 'third season syndrome' against his name - no question about that. But a path of destruction? Just blatant lies.
Chelsea (1st time) went on to be successful after him and reached the CL final in the same season he left (with his players). Inter was fecked up by Rafa after winning the bloody treble. Madrid were fine and Carlo won the CL shortly after.
He definitely has a 'third season syndrome' against his name - no question about that. But a path of destruction? Just blatant lies.
Did we hire Louis because he was available and are we doing the same here?
Rashford did not play because of a small team, he played because four players in his position got injured. It's like claiming that the third goalkeeper played because he only had 2 players above him.
CBJ benefitted from the small team, Rashford didn't.
Add to the fact that he managed for Abramovich and Perez. WTF do people expect? These two psychopaths fire managers like I wank. Quick and nasty.
Well, you can't hire an unavailable manager.
One is top level and the other is the level below. No real surprise we've ended up a level below as a team because of it. Hopefully that will be rectified now, and we're in the best position to do it.
It's Jose bloody Mourinho. The most successful manager of the past decade.
But those 4 players weren't injured in all the other games Rashford played. LvG started him in all big games. Then in one game when he wasn't that good he took him off and still started him in the following game. He definitely deserves all credit for Rashford's this season.
More great pieces today in the papers. Very worried by this appointment.
Saw on the BBC that only 21% of people think that he will win the league. That's only 1 in 5 fans. Obviously every fan who votes on that poll is a Utd fan and there is definitely no agenda from oppo fans. We are so fecked...
Saw on the BBC that only 21% of people think that he will win the league. That's only 1 in 5 fans. Obviously every fan who votes on that poll is a Utd fan and there is definitely no agenda from oppo fans. We are so fecked...
they are worried. Part 2.
He earned his place by outperforming them and scoring goals, Rashford deserves the credits.
Edit: It's not against LVG, no other manager would be praised for that.
OK! Then LvG doesn't deserve blame for underperforming players either. It's all the players.
- Status