Mourinho not happy with transfer window - Exclusive interview with Ogden

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fellaini's barber said:
Well look at the players you mentioned for Madrid(Marcelo,Higuain etc) but then for our side we got Rashy and fecking Lingard. From what I've seen from Tuanzebe and Mensah I'm not that impressed by either. I'm not even talking about becoming squad players I mean getting young players who will be stars. We make jokes about signing the next
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AshRK said:
That's what I said,we never struck any gold with south american players. Chicha was just one example and da Silva other two. Apart from that we never were good in getting top south american talents.
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From our academy? Chicha wasn't an academy signing, he was playing in Chiva's first team, basically the finished article. We had at one time a formal agreement with a South American club IIRC and were fairly innovative in that.

I'm not sure what your expectations or gripes can be here, though. Identifying the talent, monitoring the talent, and extracting the talent at the right time is one thing. Bringing teenagers over to be in our academy is entirely different though. Theres only a select few youngsters, and their families, that would be willing to be moved thousands of miles away to live in Manchester.

In the current market, it'd probably cost a fortune, most likely, to take those chances and hope they adapt. Every PL club seems to be much more reliant on identifying the talent and bringing them in at the right time, rather than trying to develop them at the academy level.
 
AshRK said:
That's what I said,we never struck any gold with south american players. Chicha was just one example and da Silva other two. Apart from that we never were good in getting top south american talents.
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Well given the size of the club we be good at it then, seeing as we don't seem to mind bidding $70m for the said talents when they become hot stuff. I mean if other clubs can do it why not we. City looks to be catching on with the Jesus signing.
 
fellaini's barber said:
Well given the size of the club we be good at it then, seeing as we don't seem to mind bidding $70m for the said talents when they become hot stuff. I mean if other clubs can do it why not we. City looks to be catching on with the Jesus signing.
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Yes we have to do that and it's surprising why our clubs never looks to tap into south american players.
 
0161_UNITED said:
From our academy? Chicha wasn't an academy signing, he was playing in Chiva's first team, basically the finished article. We had at one time a formal agreement with a South American club IIRC and were fairly innovative in that.

I'm not sure what your expectations or gripes can be here, though. Identifying the talent, monitoring the talent, and extracting the talent at the right time is one thing. Bringing teenagers over to be in our academy is entirely different though. Theres only a select few youngsters, and their families, that would be willing to be moved thousands of miles away to live in Manchester.

In the current market, it'd probably cost a fortune, most likely, to take those chances and hope they adapt. Every PL club seems to be much more reliant on identifying the talent and bringing them in at the right time, rather than trying to develop them at the academy level.
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How do Madrid manage it then? They just signed one who was loaned back to his club, we could also have pre contracts or whatever. The thing is I don't think we're even trying in this aspect. Its just bugs me when I see Madrid with all their galacticos still managing to do better than us in this aspect. We're not even getting the best young english players either. Look at all our current youngsters there's none that particularly stands out a future star. What are we really doing? Whatever fortune you think it costs certainly won't be as much as when we want to get them from whatever club brought them from the Americas
 
With all those inflated prices, perhaps we are relying on the players to make more of a fuss at their respective clubs(Perisic, Dier,Matic) in order to drive down the price to a somewhat acceptable fee? There is only so much they can do though, really. Lukaku made it loud and clear he wanted to leave, perhaps others should do so as well.
 
fellaini's barber said:
How do Madrid manage it then? They just signed one who was loaned back to his club, we could also have pre contracts or whatever. The thing is I don't think we're even trying in this aspect. Its just bugs me when I see Madrid with all their galacticos still managing to do better than us in this aspect. We're not even getting the best young english players either. Look at all our current youngsters there's none that particularly stands out a future star. What are we really doing? Whatever fortune you think it costs certainly won't be as much as when we want to get them from whatever club brought them from the Americas
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They speak the same language?
 
0161_UNITED said:
They speak the same language?
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Language? Do we only sign players who speak English now? Do they know English all of a sudden when we want to pay $60m for them from European clubs? We bought Tevez from West Ham and he didn't speak 'hello' and last I checked Valencia still doesn't speak English. I mean even fecking West Ham managed to bring Tevez and Masch to England, hasn't stopped City from getting Jesus either, so moot point.You see thats the thing, we don't seem to mind buying them for big money when someone else brings them closer
 
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DomesticTadpole said:
He will, but if the others are the same we will not be any better off.
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Isn't this where the manager earns his bacon? I mean at some stage he has to do the work with the players on the field after watching their videos and addressing some of the weaknesses that made them produce poorly? I think Mata, Mkhitaryan, Martial and Rashford is a very strong supporting cast given that the former three have had very productive seasons playing in those secondary roles before Mourinho started working with them!
 
fellaini's barber said:
How do Madrid manage it then? They just signed one who was loaned back to his club, we could also have pre contracts or whatever. The thing is I don't think we're even trying in this aspect. Its just bugs me when I see Madrid with all their galacticos still managing to do better than us in this aspect. We're not even getting the best young english players either. Look at all our current youngsters there's none that particularly stands out a future star. What are we really doing? Whatever fortune you think it costs certainly won't be as much as when we want to get them from whatever club brought them from the Americas
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Maybe then you should watch our academy play often. You cannot be more wrong. Angel gomes is a star in the making, people who raved about foden that city kid (who is good) should watch gomes play. The boy has some real skills and his ball control is top notch. If given proper chance , could become a world beater. Nishan Burkart is a really good finisher, the boy has so much composure at 17. Big fan of george tanner the defender. Has a bright future.

You are overreacting with us not having best young talents. How many other top clubs gives their youth chance consistently. I bet if rashford was playing for arsenal or his name was rashiniho , we would have jerked off at his every touch.

Yes improvement is needed but it is extremely difficult for a club of our size to constantly give every young players a chance.
 
fellaini's barber said:
Language? Do we only sign players who speak English now? Do they know English all of a sudden when we want to pay $60m for them from European clubs? We bought Tevez from West Ham and he didn't speak 'hello' and last I checked Valencia still doesn't speak English. I mean even fecking West Ham managed to bring Tevez and Masch to England, hasn't stopped City from getting Jesus either, so moot point.You see thats the thing, we don't seem to mind buying them for big money when someone else brings them closer
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I'm pretty sure the conversation was about bringing teenagers into our academy, and yes, language and distance would be a factor. For established players maybe it would be different.
 
I think it's criminal how we haven't signed a single player from Monaco yet this summer.
 
God forbid if Lukaku did his ligaments tonight. We would be going into the season with a strike force of Rashford. The same if Pogba broke down. Our squad is far too light. Very surprised we havent recruited more players this summer.
 
Some of you people seems to have forgotten that we still have 40 days until the end of the transfer window. The thing that we are unable to finish some of the transfers is nothing new to me, we've been doing it for years.
But I totally agree with you, our bench lacks depth, not just our bench our lineup is too weak
 
Lads we were 6th last season. I can't see how we've improved much. Every other team is strengthebening significantly. We need to buy another couple or we will be stuck in 6th again
 
Satissh12 said:
So we say no to Perisic, who are the other options and why do you think any club is going to not charge us extra?
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Rumours we were interested in Lucas Moura, and he might be on his way out of PSG. But I feel it's Perisić or nothing for the manager.
 
0161_UNITED said:
I'm pretty sure the conversation was about bringing teenagers into our academy, and yes, language and distance would be a factor. For established players maybe it would be different.
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We bought Tevez months after West Ham got him. I'm not talking about buying teenagers into the academy I just mean good players period, young or old before they become Europe's hottest prospect. Vidal before Juve or Leverkusen for example. We need to start unearthing this gems or we'll just have to spend every summer paying Pogba or Lukaku money for every player we want
 
We will end up overpaying massively for Perisic & Matic this summer and neither are great players IMO. Having said that, I'm tired of us feckin around - since we have no alternatives lined up we might as well pay up and be done with it since neither Chelsea or Inter will lower their demands. You'd have to question our scouting network though, surely there must be other players out there who fit the manager's requested criteria?
 
We've barely improved the team from the past season through the transfer window.

Hopefully certain players step up and the team is more acclimatized to Jose's managerial style and tactics. Otherwise, I think we're in another battle for top 4.
 
Name Changed said:
Lads we were 6th last season. I can't see how we've improved much. Every other team is strengthebening significantly. We need to buy another couple or we will be stuck in 6th again
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Every other team, or just Chelsea and City?
 
fellaini's barber said:
Well they both finished above us don't you think we are the ones who need this improvement much more than them?
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There's more to improving than just buying new players. United fans should know this by now after the past few seasons.
However, I agree that we could probably do with strengthening the side. But it's simply not true to say that every other side has significantly strengthened.
 
Name Changed said:
Lads we were 6th last season. I can't see how we've improved much. Every other team is strengthebening significantly. We need to buy another couple or we will be stuck in 6th again
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Liverpool have not and neither have Arsenal.
 
Chelsea bought Morata because we got Lukaku and Bakayoko has never blown me away, plus they are Losing Costa have they strengthened significantly?
Liverpool - nope
Spurs- nope
Arsenal - nope
West ham and Everton have done some good buissness for them but I wouldn't want anyone they signed.
So that leaves city let's see if they can Gel .
We will sign players before the end of the month.
 
kirk buttercup said:
Chelsea bought Morata because we got Lukaku and Bakayoko has never blown me away, plus they are Losing Costa have they strengthened significantly?
Liverpool - nope
Spurs- nope
Arsenal - nope
West ham and Everton have done some good buissness for them but I wouldn't want anyone they signed.
So that leaves city let's see if they can Gel .
We will sign players before the end of the month.
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They've strengthened signing Lacazette who is a great player..
 
Globule said:
There's more to improving than just buying new players.
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Absolutely true. I read somewhere that we hit the post/crossbar so much last year that had those landed in the net we would have finished 2nd. Surely, some of our attacking players will have better luck this year and actually find the net more often.
 
cfkane said:
Absolutely true. I read somewhere that we hit the post/crossbar so much last year that had those landed in the net we would have finished 2nd. Surely, some of our attacking players will have better luck this year and actually find the net more often.
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Does that factor in our oppositions posts going in as well?
 
I'll be stunned if we end this window without buying a proper attacker with some skills and flair and a bit of a game changer. Our attack is just so poor compared to the likes of City, Chelsea, Liverpool Spurs and Arsenal.
 
wr8_utd said:
I'll be stunned if we end this window without buying a proper attacker with some skills and flair and a bit of a game changer. Our attack is just so poor compared to the likes of City, Chelsea, Liverpool Spurs and Arsenal.
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Which player though? No one seems available.

Perisic isn't that type of player.

I agree though. I think we'll struggle for goals again.
 
Eddy_JukeZ said:
Which player though? No one seems available.

Perisic isn't that type of player.

I agree though. I think we'll struggle for goals again.
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No clue but there's got to be players better than what we have :lol: We just struggle to create anything and we've not added to attack at all (other than a like for like Zlatan replacement). We're solid enough at the back so we could do without Matic/Dier/Fabinho but not getting in a big big attacker is going to ruin our season.
 
wr8_utd said:
No clue but there's got to be players better than what we have :lol: We just struggle to create anything and we've not added to attack at all (other than a like for like Zlatan replacement). We're solid enough at the back so we could do without Matic/Dier/Fabinho but not getting in a big big attacker is going to ruin our season.
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Shame the Griezmann transfer fell apart. I'd feel more confident if we had got him.

You just look at our team and wonder where the goals will come from. I know some are optimistic on Martial/Rashford/Mkhi improving from last season, but I wouldn't pin my hopes on that.
 
Watching pre season is obviously not a good barometer, but boy do we need some action in the full back and winger department. It's so crap.
 
Eddy_JukeZ said:
Shame the Griezmann transfer fell apart. I'd feel more confident if we had got him.

You just look at our team and wonder where the goals will come from. I know some are optimistic on Martial/Rashford/Mkhi improving from last season, but I wouldn't pin my hopes on that.
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Utd fans need to stop complaining already. Lukaku, Martial, Rashford, Mkhitaryan, Mata is a hugely creative and high quality attacking roster.
 
Cristiano Lell said:
Utd fans need to stop complaining already. Lukaku, Martial, Rashford, Mkhitaryan, Mata is a hugely creative and high quality attacking roster.
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I disagree. We got outscored by Bournemouth last season. Let that sink in.

I think there's validity in the concerns.
 
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