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Mourinho | New old Chelsea manager
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There will be a lot of absurd speculation on what he does/doesn't want to do. Like the media speculating that he doesn't rate Luiz in the weeks leading up to him signing.
I take it all with a pinch of salt. Why would you sell Mata? 20 odd goals and 20 assists a season and 25 odd years of age.
Well we sold Ronaldo....
Yeah, not because SAF said he wanted too.
Mata's Spanish. Mourinho has PTSD and is worried about flashbacks.
I can’t believe for a second Jose would want to be rid of Mata. If there is any truth in it, Mata must be looking to move to one of the big 2 in Spain.
And I would be delighted if he leaves.
And I would be delighted if he leaves.
I think that it's inevitable that one if not both of the Spanish giants will be in for him. I'd be very surprised if he's still at Chelsea by the time he's 28.
Maybe, but he seems very happy in London, he has won two European trophies in two years and has said on record he is looking forward to working with Mourinho.
He may go back to Spain at some point, but I don't think it will be this summer.
Mata looks to have a brilliant attitude too. One of the most likeable players in the Prem.
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We've covered all this in RI for past 3 years. Open secret that Mourinho was desperate for MUFC job - its news only to delusional CFC fans.
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That's main reason he spoke to CFC - big game of brinkmanship. Anyone expecting The Ego to publically admit being spurned by MUFC is deluded
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As we printed back in March, Fergie told Mourinho his intention was to do 1 more year, hence JM looking into short term options for 2013/14.
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Of course, none of this is news to any regulars on our Sanctuary forum.For all those asking, why on earth would we post it on here for free?
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Much more to come on the whole Fergie quitting episode. Stuff will prob start to leak out as and when Mourinho goes off on one next season.
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Mourinho left absolutely livid he was overlooked+had been led on by Fergie. Next year there'll be none of the humble nice guy of Feb/March.
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Mourinho was desperate for MUFC job and his camp attempted to contact Utd all day on the Weds Fergie quit. Eventually got in touch late on.
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Red Issue trying to peddle that Mourinho was ringing United and begging for the job all Wednesday, yeah alright lads. Both the Moyes and Mourinho deals will have been tied up a while ago. If you saw Mourinho's interview with Crerand before that game, you do not see someone who thinks they are going to United. And he "only" spoke to CFC as a bargaining tool with United? Even though he has said constantly that he would come back and manage us? They've been on the RAWK juice I'm afraid.
The "open secret" without a single quote to justify it.
We've covered all this in RI for past 3 years. Open secret that Mourinho was desperate for MUFC job - its news only to delusional CFC fans.
Red Issue @RedIssue 3 Jun
That's main reason he spoke to CFC - big game of brinkmanship. Anyone expecting The Ego to publically admit being spurned by MUFC is deluded
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Red Issue @RedIssue 3 Jun
As we printed back in March, Fergie told Mourinho his intention was to do 1 more year, hence JM looking into short term options for 2013/14.
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Red Issue @RedIssue 3 Jun
Of course, none of this is news to any regulars on our Sanctuary forum.For all those asking, why on earth would we post it on here for free?
Expand
Red Issue @RedIssue 3 Jun
Much more to come on the whole Fergie quitting episode. Stuff will prob start to leak out as and when Mourinho goes off on one next season.
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Red Issue @RedIssue 3 Jun
Mourinho left absolutely livid he was overlooked+had been led on by Fergie. Next year there'll be none of the humble nice guy of Feb/March.
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Red Issue @RedIssue 3 Jun
Mourinho was desperate for MUFC job and his camp attempted to contact Utd all day on the Weds Fergie quit. Eventually got in touch late on.
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Red Issue trying to peddle that Mourinho was ringing United and begging for the job all Wednesday, yeah alright lads. Both the Moyes and Mourinho deals will have been tied up a while ago. If you saw Mourinho's interview with Crerand before that game, you do not see someone who thinks they are going to United. And he "only" spoke to CFC as a bargaining tool with United? Even though he has said constantly that he would come back and manage us? They've been on the RAWK juice I'm afraid.
The "open secret" without a single quote to justify it.
So Mourinho, who according to you had his Chelsea deal tied up a while ago, gushed about the club he loves being Inter, why exactly?
He has been pretty constant in saying that the two clubs he has loved throughout his career have been Chelsea and Inter.
He didn't even mention Chelsea in that interview. Probably because he didn't want to put us off!
I do think RI are exaggerating, but I wholeheartedly believe Mourinho wanted the United job. It hardly matters now though. We chose Moyes over him even though he was available. He won't admit it and of course he's going to talk about this new "marriage” like it was all he wanted but its quite transparent imo. All this talk about doing things right this time is because he knows exactly why he was overlooked in favour of somebody unproven at the top level.
I can't see Mourinho being as successful at the renties as he was last time and I can't see him sticking around there very long again either.
One poor sequence of results or a disappointing end to a season and the rumours of conflict will start to appear yet again mark my words. Mourinho doesn't do longevity and Chelsea isn't a club for it either. Mourinho will either go back to Inter next or he will go for the Portugal job.
One poor sequence of results or a disappointing end to a season and the rumours of conflict will start to appear yet again mark my words. Mourinho doesn't do longevity and Chelsea isn't a club for it either. Mourinho will either go back to Inter next or he will go for the Portugal job.
Agreed with Randall.
I'd say Mata is exactly the type of player Mou would love. A goalscoring midfielder with an eye for pass, in all of his successful teams. He had Deco at Porto, Lampard at Chelsea, and Sneijder at Inter. And Mata is every bit as good as any of them.
I'd say it's Hazard (and perhaps Oscar) that should more worried about their place.
I'd say Mata is exactly the type of player Mou would love. A goalscoring midfielder with an eye for pass, in all of his successful teams. He had Deco at Porto, Lampard at Chelsea, and Sneijder at Inter. And Mata is every bit as good as any of them.
I'd say it's Hazard (and perhaps Oscar) that should more worried about their place.
No one knows, it's pure speculation. The notion that Mourinho's people were desperately ringing United begging for the job on the Wednesday that Ferguson resigned is absolutely farcical. He will have known by the time that Ferguson resigned that he wasn't going to United.
Oscar yes but not Hazard. Oscar whilst an excellent player is not always the type Jose likes, especially if we tie up the Modric deal.
You bring this all the time. I don't think anyone here really cares that much any more.
I'm glad he's coming back, he can get Chelsea into shape to give us a proper challenge.
It will be interesting to see how much he reverts to tactical type now. After favouring 4-3-3 with a big strong forward, at least one wide player who runs like a bastard all game to really cover the fullback, and a dependable experienced anchorman at Chelsea and Inter he went for the now standard 4-2-3-1 at Real. How much of that was done with a view to getting the best out of Ronaldo I don't know, but it will be interesting to see if he keeps it for Chelsea.
If he does revert back to the 4-3-3 you'd need something of an overhaul. At least one new wide player, a new defensive midfielder, new centreback (if he's as set on binning Luiz as is reported), new striker (Lukaku is the only one you've got that fits his profile but how much he's willing to trust him is unclear).
Be careful what you wish for!
Not surprised at all. They were trying to sign Falcao. Didnt work out. Cavani is Plan B. Hopefully he rejects the premier league and goes somewhere else.
I reckon Madrid might try to pull off a Galactico and sign him as a replacement for Higauin. Short of that, Chelsea would seem a good fit. Mourinho will want a good striker to replicate the Drogba role of the mid 2000s.
He would probably end up the top scorer in the league if he goes there. Bad news.
I honestly don't know why Chelsea don't just play Lukaku. He scored 17 goals for West Brom, more than Torres+Ba+Sturridge scored for them (11). With the Chelsea attacking trio behind him he could be brilliant next season.
Cavani is a Mourinho player. Premier League will be more interesting with him here.
A strong Chelsea might benefit us in the Champions League
There's a big difference between leading the line for CFC and West Brom. At West Brom, most of Lukaku's goals come from the counter attack, where he has time, yards of space and not much opposition to beat. Against Chelsea, many teams approach the game more carefully and most of the time keep big numbers at the back. Obviously, he'll have a better service at Chelsea, but the presure to deliver will also be enormous.
While I still think they could do with a world class striker such as Falcao, they'd be silly to not give Lukaku a lot more playing time next season. He's shown this season that he's already more than capable at this level and he's only going to improve from now on and looks to be a world class prospect.
Im sure Lukaku is going to be involved next season. I think Mou will sell both Ba and Torres and if they get Cavani, then it will be him and Lukaku leading the line. But the later definitely needed this years' loan spell at West Brom to grow. If he stayed at Chelsea, he would have stagnated. This year would have given him so much confidence and he would have grown immensely as a player.
If we won the league every year by 10 points it would take some of the fun out of watching. I probably wouldn't say that in the middle of a title race, but in the summer that's how I feel!
Its not like we have won 3 consecutive titles by more than 10 points. Its just one season.
A little bit of news from Mourinho's old job. Despite ultimately failing when it came to the first team dressing room, he may have left Real Madrid in better shape than many give him credit for. In his first press conference for the club he was asked: "How long will it take Madrid to catch up with Barca?" To which he replied, "5 years." The reporters of course laughed, but personally I always thought he meant it.
A few months after he got there he supervised the overhaul of the club's reserve and youth team structure and they appointed a new reserve team manager. A year later the reserves were promoted to Liga 2. This season they finished a comfortable 8th. Meanwhile Real Madrid C have reached 5th in their 2b division (higher than the reserve team were when Mourinho took over).
Looking at Spain's U21, U20, U19 summer squads - Madrid have provided 15 players in total this year. For comparison, Barcelona and Atletico have supplied 9 each. Of course some of this is down to improved poaching (though the big clubs have always poached) but some it is almost certainly down to Mourinho and the people he promoted.
The real test will be how many eventually establish themselves in the first team squad, but it's still an interesting sidenote for people who think he's not interested in developing youth or club building, only in shopping for a first XI.
A few months after he got there he supervised the overhaul of the club's reserve and youth team structure and they appointed a new reserve team manager. A year later the reserves were promoted to Liga 2. This season they finished a comfortable 8th. Meanwhile Real Madrid C have reached 5th in their 2b division (higher than the reserve team were when Mourinho took over).
Looking at Spain's U21, U20, U19 summer squads - Madrid have provided 15 players in total this year. For comparison, Barcelona and Atletico have supplied 9 each. Of course some of this is down to improved poaching (though the big clubs have always poached) but some it is almost certainly down to Mourinho and the people he promoted.
The real test will be how many eventually establish themselves in the first team squad, but it's still an interesting sidenote for people who think he's not interested in developing youth or club building, only in shopping for a first XI.
In his last season, he's also displayed an astonishing lack of man-management skills. He ended up falling out with about half his squad, including a couple of world class stars. His team also looked a good level or two below the best of what Europe has to offer. Hell, they were out manoeuvred by us until a poor refereeing decision swung things in their favour.
With all the "Special One" nonsense, he deserves to be judged more stringently - as such, it's not unreasonable to say his tenure at Real Madrid was a failure. He didn't deliver European Cup number 10.
The English medias Mourinho love-in is already irritating. SSN devoting airtime to discussing what he might say in tomorrow's presser. Really? 
Didn't know that. Credit to him. FCBarca mentioned several times that Barca's second team isn't as well managed as it was when Guardiola was manager. Maybe the future is indeed bright for Real, if they don't panic and give at least a few youth players a chance. (Pretty unlikely if we go by the club's decisions in the last decade, but you never know).
Just had a look at the league table, they finished 8th, 2 points ahead of Barca B who finished 9th. That's brilliant for the first year in the league.
The English medias Mourinho love-in is already irritating. SSN devoting airtime to discussing what he might say in tomorrow's presser. Really?
SKy Sports News is all about promoting Sky based sports and their own programming. Of course they are going to hype up Jose's return, especially if they are showing it live.
Complaining that their coverage is crap becaasue of that is as silly as moaning about Talksport being wummish. It's the whole reason they exist.
What time is the press conference tomorrow? Hopefully I can find a stream.
The English medias Mourinho love-in is already irritating. SSN devoting airtime to discussing what he might say in tomorrow's presser. Really?
In all fairness Mourinho press conferences can quite often result in some interesting comments. Let's not forget what happened the last time Mourinho had his first press conference here as new manager of Chelsea.