Mourinho | New old Chelsea manager

AS's cover was stark, the juxtaposition deliberate, confrontation in the design. It showed Casillas and Ramos embracing, tears in the defender's eyes. Symbols of Madridismo at odds with Mourinho, hurt by the club's elimination. Underneath was a small picture of the coach and the headline: "Mourinho and his navel."
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Sid Lowe: José Mourinho braced for a bitter parting from Real Madrid ~

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2013/may/01/jose-mourinho-real-madrid
 
Ballbag says it isn't certain that he will go to Chelsea. Says PSG in the frame.
 
coolredwine said:
Mourinho : Chelsea fans :: Benitez : Liverpool fans
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:lol: what?


Mourinho made Chelsea a force to be reckoned with when he took charge and has done so with almost every team he has managed since. I can understand the love Chelsea fans have for Mourinho. He's a pure man manager, treats his players like his own children. Players have come out and said stuff like they would die for Jose ( Sneijder iirc) . And is having an extraordinary career in terms of trophies won. To welcome back a manager of such class and status, its perfectly understandable that chelsea fans are creaming their pants in anticipation for the return of the Special one.
 
What I am trying to say is that, Mourinho is to Chelsea fans what Benitez is to Scousers. I was just talking to a Chav friend of mine, and the way he was talking about Mourinho reminded me of how Scousers talk about Benitez. Going about how he has done this, done that, ignoring all his mistakes/failures, etc.
 
cesc's_mullet said:
PSG and Real Madrid to trade managers.
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I've found this whole Mou saga quite interesting. A few months ago I noticed some people questioning whether he was deliberately trying to get the sack from Madrid. I just dismissed it as rubbish personally but apparently Real will be owed around £10mil if another club want to buy him out of his contract. Something that will be a struggle for Chelsea with the FFP rules.
 
Carl said:
I've found this whole Mou saga quite interesting. A few months ago I noticed some people questioning whether he was deliberately trying to get the sack from Madrid. I just dismissed it as rubbish personally but apparently Real will be owed around £10mil if another club want to buy him out of his contract. Something that will be a struggle for Chelsea with the FFP rules.
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That's bs carl

chelsea are stumping millions sacking managers left right center, if you think 10M would stop them
 
Sky1981 said:
That's bs carl

chelsea are stumping millions sacking managers left right center, if you think 10M would stop them
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They certainly have in the past. I don't think we'll see much of this ridiculous behaviour in future. DiMatteo was a cheap appointment (and sacking) and Benitez is a cheap option also.
 
Interesting theory about him trying to get sacked. Either way looks nailed on to be at Chelsea next season.
 
FlawlessThaw said:
Interesting theory about him trying to get sacked. Either way looks nailed on to be at Chelsea next season.
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I'm not one for conspiracy theories and what not but I just found it interesting to hear especially the way he's fallen out with a few key figures at the club.
 
Good for Chelsea and the overall English football if this is true.

Will we finally see a three horse race?
 
Revan said:
Good for Chelsea and the overall English football if this is true.

Will we finally see a three horse race?
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Depends what happens in the summer with players. If Chelsea & the not so special one spend big then they and City will be a lot stronger than they are this season.

Think United will need to get a wee bit more quality into the midfield for next season.
 
Jose Mourinho is understood to have agreed a deal to rejoin Chelsea and could officially return to Stamford Bridge on July 1.
The Real Madrid manager is said to have dined with Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich at the La Famiglia restaurant in west London where he is said to have accepted a £10million-a-year deal – although he still has to negotiate his release from Real.
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Nothing actually concrete here though.

Lets face it, all they have to do is pop down to the restaurant, give one of the staff some money & they will confirm or deny it happened.

What day did this meal take place? Were they both in London at the time it happened? It smells of a made up story.


I'm not saying it won't happen, but that story proves nothing.
 
Carl said:
I've found this whole Mou saga quite interesting. A few months ago I noticed some people questioning whether he was deliberately trying to get the sack from Madrid. I just dismissed it as rubbish personally but apparently Real will be owed around £10mil if another club want to buy him out of his contract. Something that will be a struggle for Chelsea with the FFP rules.
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If Mourinho refuses to quit they'll have to sack him and vice versa.... Let's face it they both want out but neither are prepared to take the financial hit, in the end it may be a "mutual consent" deal...
 
Jose Mourinho came out in a press conference to defend the achievements in Madrid: "In 21 years, 18 coaches and five semifinals. And yet the bad is Mou". Also made it clear: "I have not decided if I go or stay. First to know will be my wife and my children."

He spoke at a press conference on his departure: "I can confirm that I have five games and a final talk about my future Cup season finale with the president. Also as friends we are. We sit down and talk calmly ".

"I have the same pleasure, professionalism and honor to work for this club for a month or two," he added.

Mourinho believes that when you go from Madrid will be well: "I feel no pressure by the press. Not a problem for me. Pressure is that I get to myself. Among the clubs that I left no negative words, all otherwise. Day out of here is not going to be different. "

"No League conseguiréis delete my records and won the Cup after 20 years"

He also spoke of the club: "I am proud to have been coach of Real Madrid who has broken the hegemony of Barcelona in Spain".

"We started badly the league and we have paid. Should have fought for the championship for longer, we should not be so far from Barcelona so soon. The record 100 points does not seem easy to beat. Barca can get that, and if it does is because it is the best team in the world in the last 20 or 30 years, which gives more value to what we have achieved, "he added.

He also sent a message to without naming Casillas: "The problems exist when you think you're above the rest. With players who are all level, I have not had any problem."

On what would change his three years in Madrid said: "I should have brought the end of the first season to Diego Lopez. Maybe I did not do enough."

(Marca)
 
:D That last line is a kick in the teeth for Casillas. But agreed that Lopez is clearly the better goalkeeper (now).
 
SteveJ said:
Jose Mourinho came out in a press conference to defend the achievements in Madrid: "In 21 years, 18 coaches and five semifinals. And yet the bad is Mou". Also made it clear: "I have not decided if I go or stay. First to know will be my wife and my children."

He spoke at a press conference on his departure: "I can confirm that I have five games and a final talk about my future Cup season finale with the president. Also as friends we are. We sit down and talk calmly ".

"I have the same pleasure, professionalism and honor to work for this club for a month or two," he added.

Mourinho believes that when you go from Madrid will be well: "I feel no pressure by the press. Not a problem for me. Pressure is that I get to myself. Among the clubs that I left no negative words, all otherwise. Day out of here is not going to be different. "

"No League conseguiréis delete my records and won the Cup after 20 years"

He also spoke of the club: "I am proud to have been coach of Real Madrid who has broken the hegemony of Barcelona in Spain".

"We started badly the league and we have paid. Should have fought for the championship for longer, we should not be so far from Barcelona so soon. The record 100 points does not seem easy to beat. Barca can get that, and if it does is because it is the best team in the world in the last 20 or 30 years, which gives more value to what we have achieved, "he added.

He also sent a message to without naming Casillas: "The problems exist when you think you're above the rest. With players who are all level, I have not had any problem."

On what would change his three years in Madrid said: "I should have brought the end of the first season to Diego Lopez. Maybe I did not do enough."

(Marca)
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He is simply such a joke. good tactician, but crap in many other ways. Focus is on him him him. as a coach for a team you dont say what he says...clearly attacking his own player.

get out of our club!
 
SuecoGitano said:
He is simply such a joke. good tactician, but crap in many other ways. Focus is on him him him. as a coach for a team you dont say what he says...clearly attacking his own player.

get out of our club!
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Surely Iker is a joke player? As a player you don't attack the manager. Mourinho is doing what no one else has done, showing the players they don't run the club. Since Iker was dropped, Ramos has sorted his act out and Madrid have a better goalie.
 
I do love the lofty praise he gave to Barcelona, no doubt to expedite his departure out of the capital

Mendes is now being quoted as saying that Mou wants to leave the capital and that Chelsea is 80% likely, the next destination
 
It would be interesting to see if Mou takes over at Chelsea if they dont make the top 4. I am guessing that is why he is waiting to make a decision yet.
 
SuecoGitano said:
He is simply such a joke. good tactician, but crap in many other ways. Focus is on him him him. as a coach for a team you dont say what he says...clearly attacking his own player.

get out of our club!
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I think I disagree. I mean he seems arrogant and all but he is right. Its like Fergie's mentality - no player is bigger than the club. Not Casillas, not Ramos and not anyone else. The manager is the leader and he is at liberty to do what he wants. Also this so called "me me me" thing you are talking about, I think it is actually does good than its does harm.

He basically takes the pressure/heat from the media. Its like Ferguson protecting the younger kids like De Gea and Giggs when he was young from the media and the press. Its important sometimes. Its sort of like a distraction. It maybe good for the club because the focus is not on them as a whole and their players but on one person - their manager. I think he handles himself well sometimes and its hilarious to watch on TV.
 
SteveJ said:
Jose Mourinho came out in a press conference to defend the achievements in Madrid: "In 21 years, 18 coaches and five semifinals. And yet the bad is Mou". Also made it clear: "I have not decided if I go or stay. First to know will be my wife and my children."

He spoke at a press conference on his departure: "I can confirm that I have five games and a final talk about my future Cup season finale with the president. Also as friends we are. We sit down and talk calmly ".

"I have the same pleasure, professionalism and honor to work for this club for a month or two," he added.

Mourinho believes that when you go from Madrid will be well: "I feel no pressure by the press. Not a problem for me. Pressure is that I get to myself. Among the clubs that I left no negative words, all otherwise. Day out of here is not going to be different. "

"No League conseguiréis delete my records and won the Cup after 20 years"

He also spoke of the club: "I am proud to have been coach of Real Madrid who has broken the hegemony of Barcelona in Spain".

"We started badly the league and we have paid. Should have fought for the championship for longer, we should not be so far from Barcelona so soon. The record 100 points does not seem easy to beat. Barca can get that, and if it does is because it is the best team in the world in the last 20 or 30 years, which gives more value to what we have achieved, "he added.

He also sent a message to without naming Casillas: "The problems exist when you think you're above the rest. With players who are all level, I have not had any problem."

On what would change his three years in Madrid said: "I should have brought the end of the first season to Diego Lopez. Maybe I did not do enough."

(Marca)
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For an author, your English is quite poor, Steve. ;)

As for Mourinho, I'm on the fence, on the one hand I want him to stay because he's one of the best in the business. But on the other I can't stand some of his comments to the point I'll be glad he's out of the club.
 
Vato1979 said:
For an author, your English is quite poor, Steve. ;)

As for Mourinho, I'm on the fence, on the one hand I want him to stay because he's one of the best in the business. But on the other I can't stand some of his comments to the point I'll be glad he's out of the club.
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I'll do a swap with you for Benitez right now. I'll even throw in Benayoun and let you have Essien on loan again next season.
 
:lol: Vato.

Apparently some journalists have misgivings about the Return of José:

Only surprise about Mourinho's return is people think it's a good idea

Just as Mourinho brings out the worst in English football, so its slavering attention brings out the worst in him

Barney Ronay, The Guardian

Oh no. Oh no, please. Are we really going to do this again? Perhaps there is still a flicker of hope. Maybe this is just a minor outbreak, something that can be contained and extinguished by stern, space-suited men in governmental helicopters. Or just a brief resurfacing of the theory of Premier League orbital resonance, a school of thought which states that beneath everything that ever happens in English football, every goal, every red-card furore, there is a never ending conversation about José Mourinho going on all around us.

Allow everything else to fade away and you might just catch it, the hidden music of the sphere, an unceasing Mourinho waffle-feed just waiting to emerge into the briefest hiatus in the rolling Premier League news-gargle.

And yet it feels as though the battle is already lost, that the debate about whether Mourinho might be coming back to England is now basically over. Mainly because he's already here, hiding in plain sight, our own reptilian Illuminati overlord cranking levers and throwing switches behind his pleated curtain. In fact the only really surprising thing about all this is that pretty much everybody seems to think it's a good idea.

Witness, for example, the degree of outrage over ITV cutting short its broadcast of Mourinho's prepared self-promotional speech after Real Madrid's Champions League exit in midweek, the best part of which was the spectacle of his premature eviction from the screen, the look of shock on his face at finding himself led away by the wrist, suddenly meek and helpless, like a grandmother caught shoplifting. But you knew this wasn't over and Mourinho duly carried on where he'd left off in front of the English press, squeezed once gain into his decade-old skinny-fit leather José-jeans, fluffing his chest hair, hosing the room with those saltily noxious José-pheromones.

And so the notion that we all love José has been bandied about unchallenged ever since. This despite the fact there are obvious reasons why Mourinho coming back to England is a terrible idea for everyone concerned. Not just because of the tedium of the ambient obsession, which feels a bit like being forced to nod along to a very dull piece of music that everybody else seems to think is absolutely brilliant. But more because it is a destructive relationship on both sides, an affair dominated above all by the vast, suffocating blanket of guff, that gumbo of inanity and extra-football intrigue that must inevitably accompany Mourinho wherever he goes.

This is, of course, non-negotiable. It is intrinsic to Mourinho's methods, an approach that demands he be placed magnetically centre stage, inserting himself into that yeasty nexus between fans, media and opposition, a man for whom a match kicks off with the pre-match press conference, the moment he can first start to dig his great scrabbling malevolent fingernails into the opposition cranium, redrawing the entire occasion in his capering shadow. Beyond any sense of a broader footballing philosophy, this is basically what Mourinho offers: a high-intensity infusion of distilled confrontational personality.

And frankly, too much. We cannot cope with such bounteous gifts. Already geared towards its own parping operetta of handshakes and mind-games and who said what to whom, English football is simply overwhelmed by a manager who makes it part of his daily routine to toss this stuff our way. And so when José is in the room we all go to pieces. He is managerial strong lager, managerial cleavage, an entirely disorientating force, killing the conversation and feeding the Premier League's own worst vices of hungrily consumed celebrified piffle.

This is a mutual thing. Just as José brings out the worst in English football, so its slavering attention has also brought out the worst in him. This is not to attack the man himself at a time when some will sense a dwindling in his powers. Physically he will return a more frayed, less-well-groomed figure: shell-suited, glowering beneath his frazzled bouffant, stalking the touchline like a very cross middle-aged man about to spring through the porch doors to remonstrate with the binmen on collection day.

None of which matters much: Mourinho is too good not to be back on top in time. The issue is him attempting to do it in England. If he has become unlikable in recent years it is hard to avoid the sense this is somehow our fault, that during his time in England a single technique, one weapon in his armoury, became horribly enflamed, mushrooming out of all proportion until this oppositional quality is now basically his only quality. In the meantime other managerial flavours have emerged, the more austere and collegiate Bundesliga school of science, the inspirational-supply-teacher schtick of Jürgen Klopp, Europe's current junior it-boy.

And frankly the question of what kind of "love" english football – Chelsea fans aside – might harbour for Mourinho is open to question. Love sounds like something you might feel for David Moyes, who seems so priestly and concerned and who sits in his shed dreaming of the Bundesliga in the way men of a certain age sit very quietly tapping their feet to trad jazz records before eventually returning with a sigh to watering the tomatoes. I feel a degree of managerial man-love for Fatih Terim, a manager powered solely by bodily perspiration whose entire football philosophy revolves around the production and dissemination of great cleansing instructional draughts of bodily perspiration. I love Uwe Rösler because of his Hasselhoff-ish Euro bonhomie, his optimism, his tiny little cupboard of an office at Brentford where he seems entirely happy. I kind of love Michael Laudrup a bit even though you half expect to look a little closer and notice he's sitting on the Swansea bench in a white tuxedo, bowtie rakishly undone, smiling his rueful sideways smile at some bitter-sweet casino-floor affair of the heart.

Mourinho, though, is a more sickly affair. He remains English football's bad boyfriend, the guy who's simply no good for us: leaning against the bonnet of his car, chewing gum, baseball-jacket sleeves rolled up, the rebel with only one cause (the cause of José). And yet there is still a choice. We can party like it's 2004, allowing Mourinho to fill the skies with his haggard old personality schtick. Or we can decide we've had enough of the distractions of the periphery and for once maybe just try to talk about something else. It might just be best for everyone.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2013/may/03/jose-mourinho-chelsea-real-madrid
 
duffer said:
You first Barney, you pretentious gimp.
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:lol:

His vivid fantasies about different kinds of middle-aged men and their daily comings and goings are nothing short of brilliant, though. 'Glowering beneath his frazzled bouffant', indeed --

Physically he will return a more frayed, less-well-groomed figure: shell-suited, glowering beneath his frazzled bouffant, stalking the touchline like a very cross middle-aged man about to spring through the porch doors to remonstrate with the binmen on collection day.
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the inspirational-supply-teacher schtick of Jürgen Klopp
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Love sounds like something you might feel for David Moyes, who seems so priestly and concerned and who sits in his shed dreaming of the Bundesliga in the way men of a certain age sit very quietly tapping their feet to trad jazz records before eventually returning with a sigh to watering the tomatoes.
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Bilbo said:
The only reason he would go to PSG is to add another title to his collection, and wait for Ferguson to finish.

It certainly appears that it will be Chelsea, although I don't think it will be the perfect marriage that some do. Abramovich is still trigger-happy, and Mourinho is still a control freak (as he should be). He is also inheriting a squad that have no trace of the mentality or physicality that he left there, and they have far more competition financially for the players that he is going to want to sign.

I still have a feeling that Ferguson is going this summer anyway. He has been acting a little strange over the last few months.
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Never been sadder to have a gut feeling come to fruition
 
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