Yep could be. Would further explain why he was so distraught yesterday. Although it obviously has far more stronger explanations.
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Yep could be. Would further explain why he was so distraught yesterday. Although it obviously has far more stronger explanations.
feck it. I hope Mourinho flirts with us for the rest of the time in Madrid. Just like Ronnie used to with them. I want to wind the cnuts up!
We'd have done the same if the roles were reversed.
People just want a reason to hate him i suppose. Had he come out gloating over the win yesterday, he'd have been called a cnut for not acknowledging they got lucky. Now that he did, its been painted as an attempt to please our fans, being fake etc etc. The guy cant win.
I thought his conduct was admirable over the 2 legs. The respect that he has for SAF and the club is very clear. I'd be happy if he took over from SAF. No doubt about that. THe new manager will need to have huge bollocks, and he has it.
Not only that there were almost no cnutish antics from his team unlike when we played Barca.
He cant. But that itself is understandable. We just got knocked out of the CL, nothing he said was going to make that palatable, he - as a collective - were always going to hit out regardless. When youve lost it can be just as annoying listening to someone being magnanimous about it as it can listening to them gloat.
But that is just in the heat of the moment. Whereas in the cold light of day I think he will get credit for the way he actually behaved. Regardless of whether he becomes our next manager.
Utter tripe. You really think a SAF side playing ten men with a two goal cushion is taking the ball to the corner flag and wasting time? They'd have been going for the jugular because this team is a reflection of a man of character and Real Madrid are a reflection of a coward.
Yeah, Fergie didn't do this though. That comment was made much later when he stated what his objective was when he came, he never said it at the time.
That's great, love the way he speaks about SAF. People on here would do well to remember these words.
Anyone else think Mourinho' brown nosing was a bit obvious since the tie was drawn? Don't get me wrong, I think the bloke is quality in all aspects and would enjoy to see him at United, but his compliments of Man Utd seemed a bit OTT to me throughout the tie. Maybe he is trying to sweet talk his way into Old Trafford?
Ofcourse we would have. you're kidding yourself if you think we'd have been attacking with 8 men even at hte bernebau in a similar situation.
2nd leg, away from home with a QF final berth up for grabs. Going for the jugular would be stupid and naive. you defend, take the win and move on to bigger things. you dont jeopardize your chance by going for the jugular.
exactly. he actually seemed furious at Ramos and signalled him to get up when he was play acting in the 1st leg.
Nothing he could have said to make us feel better, not denying that. But even at the heat of the moment, it was better to see him accepting that they got lucky rather than having him giving a cocky interview to rub it in.
We've taken the ball to the corner flag plenty of times. I know 'cos it annoys me every time. Bizarre thing to claim we wouldn't do.
You can reiterate your point as many times as you want, it's still strikes me as utter bollocks. Having watched SAF' teams for the last twenty years I can tell you that taking the ball to the corner flag in the 80th minute against ten men with a two goal cushion is completely at odds with his entire ethos.
We were massively weakened and chasing goals, leaving wide open spaces to attack, Real Madrid have a team that is designed to counter-attack. Yet gifted with this golden opportunity, this completely undeserved opportunity. They still cower in the corner and Diego Lopez still rolls around on the floor showcasing the hammiest example of acting I've seen since I borrowed a DVD of The Newsroom.
Name an instance of us doing that against ten men with a two goal cushion? If you do that I'll gladly shut up. I said it was understandable in some situations but in this situation is was outright cowardice.
We've taken it to the corner flag with a 1 goal cushion against 10 men. I imagine if we were with a 2 goal cushion and against City who also have a tremendous record of scoring late goals we wouldn't be averse to time wasting.
I'm pretty sure we did a bit of time wasting against Chelsea despite being against 9 men and a goal up. I can't recall the last time we've been in a tie of this importance with that exact set of circumstances though. I'm almost fecking positive we would've done it though. Especially as - at the time - we were all over them and had created a couple of chances.
They also were having a go. They only started time wasting in the dying seconds. It's a bizarrely finickety thing to get all riled up about IMO.
They also were having a go. They only started time wasting in the dying seconds. It's a bizarrely finickety thing to get all riled up about IMO.
That's just plainly incorrect.
People made it as if he's begging to come to United, the attraction is mutual, he got the best CV after all, it's more likely he can walk in to any club he wants (bar Barcelona and probably Madrid)
If he indeed wants the United job, it's an honor for us, and if we indeed hire him, it's an honor for him as well.
If he indeed wants the United job, it's an honor for us, and if we indeed hire him, it's an honor for him as well.
They're giving us some face FFS, even a fool can see that Ronaldo lost interest to score after he scored the second
They happily sit back and ease up the pressure, should they need 2 more goals I think they'll have it either way.
Geez, some people can't just gracefully accept that this time Madrid have done everything in a respectful manner
After last night I get the feeling it could be this year. Sir Alex gets pissed off by refereeing decisions, yes, but his reaction to this one seems like there was more to it than just undoing all his brilliant tactical work. I got the feeling that he knew that the cnut of a ref had cost him his last shot at a 3rd European cup, add to that the fact Sir Alex has cut down his unnecessary travelling and is holding training less often- I just get the feeling it is this year.
Mourinho would be a solid choice, he has the mentality to be the man to take over the club after Fergie, plus being the first ever non-British or Irish manager here. I think a lot of the fans would be happy to get a 'big name', even though his record suggests he is counter to the culture of the club. He doesn't have a reputation for long-termism, doesn't really invest in young players so I don't know if the establishment at the club or the hardcore fans will think he's the ideal choice.
Time wasting and taking the ball to the corner flag is very ordinate this days, for every football club. Just look at us against Chelsea this season, when we had 2 players more and we were not attacking but only doing pointless passes and going around the corner. Or the game against Blackburn in 2011 after we scored.
Well no point debating if you've made your mind up but with 10mins or so to go, it'd have been stupid to attack. lets leave it at that. And its not cowardice either, just good sense.
Don't be fecking daft. They were helping us save face by deliberately not scoring so as not to embarrass us? What a ridiculous notion. No club would do that, ever. Nor would any player. Ronaldo didn't deliberately miss any chances at all, he just didn't perform particularly well on the night, and has admitted the occasion got to him a bit.
The nonsense being talked on here about how Real and Ronaldo so gracefully spared our blushes is fecking embarrassing.
He's the only one that somehow had the idea though
Kaka hit the post in the 88th. Ronaldo had a shot blocked in the 90th, saved in the 91st and tipped onto the bar in the 92nd.
Yeah, constant time wasting.
I guess I'm going to be in the minority then but it looked to me like towards the end Ronaldo was taking it easy. He was much more hesitant to shoot and often even pulled back or slowed down on chances he normally would never shy away from.
I don't think that means anything in the scheme of things but I do think he did ease up at the very end. Whether that was to spare our blushes is obviously up to interpretation.
Very dignified from Mourinho.
While ultimately he'll obviously be glad to go through and not care how they got there I reckon the victory won't taste as sweet because of the impact of the decision.
Beating a full strength Utd would read far better in the legend of Jose, which is what I think he get most satisfaction from.
While ultimately he'll obviously be glad to go through and not care how they got there I reckon the victory won't taste as sweet because of the impact of the decision.
Beating a full strength Utd would read far better in the legend of Jose, which is what I think he get most satisfaction from.
This is probably a lot of it as well. If the roles were switched and we had went through in the same circumstances I know I personally would've been a little disappointed.
Yes I'd be happy we went through but at the end of the day the red card dulled the victory and gave us/the footballing world an excuse for why Real went through.
It also ruined one of highest profile Fergie/Mourinho battles and what was a finely balanced game between 2 giant clubs.
Regardless of the result there were so many things the game could potentially be remembered for, now it'll only be remembered for what was at best a harsh/debatable referring decision.
Regardless of the result there were so many things the game could potentially be remembered for, now it'll only be remembered for what was at best a harsh/debatable referring decision.
Maybe you could be a bit more specific. Does it have to be on a tuesday? What time of the day should I look for?
We've time-wasted plenty of times by taking the ball to the corner flag, taken forever to take a throw in, having players milk a challenge and what not. To suggest we wouldn't have done the same last night is simply guesswork and -quite frankly - bullshit. We've shown on plenty of occasions we'll do what it takes to take home a victory. Let's not sound like Arsenal fans claiming that they'd never park the bus against any team, only to do exactly that when they faced Barca a few years ago.
Oh, I got no problem with those antics - would have likes us to do that as well if the roles were reversed. It was the ref who fecked us.
Get over it evra you big bender
After last night's actions, I suddenly think that he could very well be our next manager (after initially thinking that his general cocky-attitude would instantly rule him out).
Never seen him so gracious before and he was applauding our team more than his.
Clearly he has massive amounts of respect for Fergie, and United.
Never seen him so gracious before and he was applauding our team more than his.
Clearly he has massive amounts of respect for Fergie, and United.
He's just mellowing with age
. One of the few who may be able to fill SFA's boots when he goes. Should get him as number 2 until he retires Do you think he cares that much about United that he'd deliberately go easy on us and miss chances so as not to embarrass us? I think it's a ridiculous premise that a professional footballer, certainly one who now plays for who he described as his dream club, would deliberately not try his best against his old club. He might have respected us, but he'd have wanted to beat us. The atmosphere and emotion might have gotten to him, but for me there is no way he deliberately eased off.
I'd actually lose respect for him as a player if he did.
This isn't the thread for this though.
I didn't see any time wasting to be fair, taking ball to corners and stuff and passing it around is quite normal when you're winning and playing against 10 men.
It's not like they're rolling on the floor feigning injury or making a nothing substitution.
The ref rob us, Madrid benefited from that. Live with it.
It's not like they're rolling on the floor feigning injury or making a nothing substitution.
The ref rob us, Madrid benefited from that. Live with it.
It would be disrespectful for him to "go easy" on us. Like a father playing football with his son and trying to give him confidence. It would be fecking patronising.
In an ideal world, but we're talking about human being, he is after all just a mere teenager going into adult.
It's easy for us on the telly to say what you're saying, but he spent the good 6 years of his youth with this united team, playing in front of the united fans, probably the United team was as much as his best friends in England,
I've seen bully soften up at a point, and Ronnie's not even a flat track bully
I was very impressed with Joses words after the match
Regardless of whether or not he will get it, are there people who still think Mourinho doesn't want the United job?