Yeah, I would. Happily. I know a lot of people who don't though.
With Jose, it's always Polemic.
With Jose, it's always Polemic.
Mourinho | New old Chelsea manager
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Very impressed with how he handled himself. Very respectful and humble.
based on his actions over these two games I'd be stunned if he wasn't our next manager. He was never this pally during his Chelsea times. Mixed feelings to be honest.
He, or more accurately the referee, has probably just added on a extra couple years onto SAFs career.
He's going to have to go find a job in Germany or something if he want his next job in England to be the Utd job. I think another team will offer him the oppurtunity before we can personally.
Perhaps, but that's not the point. Mourinho is a master at deflecting responsibility. This instance in particular has worked out perfectly for him. Not only does he look good to the average Man Utd fan by proclaiming that "the best team lost", he also manages to deflect people's attention away from the fact that his team were outplayed. Then he refers to the Pepe-Alves incident, which is completely irrelevant, to once again reinforce his case. It's always the same with him... During his time in Madrid he's went on and on about such things: first he had no strikers ("you can't go to war with a kitten", ie. Benzema), then he scapegoated Valdano, then there was a huge pro-Barcelona conspiracy taking place ("por que?" rant), then this season he had "no team" after the dreadful first half of La Liga and he then had the nerve to sarcastically complain that it's always the manager's responsibility/fault. But that's just it. It's never him, never his qualities as a coach or manager that are being questioned, because he manages to shift focus onto different topics of discussion when it suits him.
Once more all that will be talked about is the ref, which he cleverly reinforced (ring familiar? Frisk, Stark, etc. ... hell at one point he even made a list of referees that he more or less accused of being biased), but not the actual performances up until that point. Which has to be said, wasn't exactly going to plan and even after Nani's sending off he still almost managed to feck it up by subbing on Pepe which allowed Utd back in the game. Funnily enough, when Thiago Motta was sent off against Barcelona, there was little narrative about the ref... instead all the talk was about how brilliantly Mourinho's team had overcome Barça over both legs (whilst there had also been some massive calls in Inter's favour in the 1st leg).
[before people jump down my throat, Mourinho is obviously one of the best managers in the world/maybe even all-time???, but then this isn't a debate about his undeniable credentials, rather his general attitude]
I'm not sure I agree, if anything he has brought more attention on his and his teams failings than perhaps others would have?
He also would've motivated his team to play better in the next round. If they play as they were doing against us before the sending off then they won't win the competition, though they weren't that bad, so it perhaps needed saying?
I do get the impression that he wouldve been criticised for literally anything he could've said in some shape or form. Yes, there was hidden motives for him saying what he did, but there is for everything that every manager says, and he wasn't lying, it was actually quite a fair assessment of the game.
He also would've motivated his team to play better in the next round. If they play as they were doing against us before the sending off then they won't win the competition, though they weren't that bad, so it perhaps needed saying?
I do get the impression that he wouldve been criticised for literally anything he could've said in some shape or form. Yes, there was hidden motives for him saying what he did, but there is for everything that every manager says, and he wasn't lying, it was actually quite a fair assessment of the game.
I don't see the point of going on about how much of a prick he is. We all know this; but then, there aren't that many 'nice guys' at the top of the footballing food chain. We're quite happy with Fergie, but I can assure you opposing fans hate him with a passion and could catalogue as many (if not more) incidents of him behaving like a prick which we, as United fans, conveniently forget because he's our Fergie.
Imagine being a Liverpool supporter in the 80s when he turned up and said "I want to knock Liverpool off their fecking perch", you'd be wondering who this cocky Scottish twat was just as the rest of us were laughing at Jose when he turned up and said he was a special one.
Jose is about as much a knob as every other top manager, including our own Fergie.
Imagine being a Liverpool supporter in the 80s when he turned up and said "I want to knock Liverpool off their fecking perch", you'd be wondering who this cocky Scottish twat was just as the rest of us were laughing at Jose when he turned up and said he was a special one.
Jose is about as much a knob as every other top manager, including our own Fergie.
Yep.
Imagine Mourinho had made those 'could've killed him' remarks about Ashley Williams...
Pretty much bang on the money.
Even if Fergie and the boards won't hire him, it's nice to know that a good manager like him expressing his interest in our club. Just imagine if the best your team can get is Brendan Rodgers.
Why do you say they wont hire him?
We'll see if all the Jose-lovers in this thread are quite so glowing in their praise for him when he's turning out at the Etihad every Saturday.
Honest Question : "What do you expect him to do?"
This is the guy who shares wine with SAF behind the closed door when we beat Barca, 3 years in England he's pushing SAF in a healthy rivalry (I don't recall there's a big bust up between the two of them)
They're top sportsman, and why can't for the love of fecking god for once we assume they have a sense of good sportsmanship
He did walk over to SAF and whisper him something even BEFORE the first goal.
And I think the Madrid players felt really bad about the whole incident as well, there's not much celebration at the end, and they're just likely would want to move on and get it over with (The whole post match thing)
Respect where its due at least, Mourinho and Ronaldo, Ramos, Alonso, etc could have acted far worse than yesterday, but they didn't
This is the guy who shares wine with SAF behind the closed door when we beat Barca, 3 years in England he's pushing SAF in a healthy rivalry (I don't recall there's a big bust up between the two of them)
They're top sportsman, and why can't for the love of fecking god for once we assume they have a sense of good sportsmanship
He did walk over to SAF and whisper him something even BEFORE the first goal.
And I think the Madrid players felt really bad about the whole incident as well, there's not much celebration at the end, and they're just likely would want to move on and get it over with (The whole post match thing)
Respect where its due at least, Mourinho and Ronaldo, Ramos, Alonso, etc could have acted far worse than yesterday, but they didn't
Love the lengthy press conference. 
Great quote from Jose, which anyone who ever questions Fergie should remember:
As for Ferguson's decision to omit Rooney from the side, the Real coach said: "I think Sir Alex has won the right to have every decision acknowledged as correct and every decision should have no question mark. He is the best, he has created history. You are nobody and I am nobody to put a question mark in front of him."
As for Ferguson's decision to omit Rooney from the side, the Real coach said: "I think Sir Alex has won the right to have every decision acknowledged as correct and every decision should have no question mark. He is the best, he has created history. You are nobody and I am nobody to put a question mark in front of him."
Love to know what he said to SAF after the nani red card.
Well said. Even on this forum, which is usually fairly objective, some of the red-tinted view points can be very frustrating and frankly childish.
Yep. The only Madrid player in a celebratory mood was Modric, and to be fair Modric has been an embattled figure at Madrid and scored brilliantly in the match.
Something about the general ineptitude of refs I reckon.
Fair play to Mourinho, He's not the most popular guy in the World. However, he's been spot on (PR) over the last few days. It almost felt like a move for United's job.
It looks that way. It's almost an open audition for the job.
Easy to be humble when you've won, but massive massive respect to him for saying what he said. It takes a lot out of your ego to admit that the losing side were the better side and you should have lost, more so when you're managing one of the most famous clubs in the world.
This....SOOOOO THIS......not just Ronnie, Becks, and RvN too.
That's why I despise Madrid and will support just about anyone against them at any given time.
(And also why I completely understand why other English fans hate us so much. It sucks not being at the top of the food chain.)
You look at how Benitez's past comments have come back to haunt him with Chelsea fans and you realise Mourinho's doing everything in his power to try and win over United fans.
Seemed like a man being very careful not to burn a bridge he plainly wants to cross in future.
I'd like Mourinho to be the next boss. I think it absurd that the likes of Stan Collymore constantly refer to Mourinho as a 2-3 year manager and then he leaves.
Should he come to United, the only job he would take on afterwards (unless he was a miserable failure) is the Portugal job, which he has said he would like when he was a bit older.
I just don't understand those that accuse him of being wholly defensive. His Chelsea title winning team was a mean, powerful and clinical unit and I don't recall thinking how defensive they were!
Porto and Inter were set up pragmatically and he reaped the accolades.
And as for Real Madrid under his leadership, well they are accused of being weak in defence.
For fecks sake, he did an interview with Paddy Crerand on MUTV (quite informal) - he wants the job and he should get it...when SAF wants to go!
Should he come to United, the only job he would take on afterwards (unless he was a miserable failure) is the Portugal job, which he has said he would like when he was a bit older.
I just don't understand those that accuse him of being wholly defensive. His Chelsea title winning team was a mean, powerful and clinical unit and I don't recall thinking how defensive they were!
Porto and Inter were set up pragmatically and he reaped the accolades.
And as for Real Madrid under his leadership, well they are accused of being weak in defence.
For fecks sake, he did an interview with Paddy Crerand on MUTV (quite informal) - he wants the job and he should get it...when SAF wants to go!
ole or pep.
i like that pep kept it professional and respectful when we've faced him without it getting too over the top.
i like that pep kept it professional and respectful when we've faced him without it getting too over the top.
Yes and Mourinho was so unprofessional and disrespectful? You should keep in mind that no coach will walk to their counterpart during the middle of a fecking Champions League game no matter the decision and say they disagree with the decision. Fergie was shaking his head so I am assuming Mo said something along the lines of that wasnt a red card.
I love Pep as a coach and agree he should be first choice to take over but this Mourinho hatred is going to a little too far. He is definitely second choice behind Pep for me to take over. But since Pep just signed a three year contract starting this summer, Jose should be a good choice.
I love Pep as a coach and agree he should be first choice to take over but this Mourinho hatred is going to a little too far. He is definitely second choice behind Pep for me to take over. But since Pep just signed a three year contract starting this summer, Jose should be a good choice.
People mistake his Chelsea side as defensive because it was a common knowledge at the time that once they went 1-0 up, the game was done. It wasn't because they'd put 10 men behind ball though, it was because they were so good defensively and could control midfield to such extent that scoring against them was nigh on impossible. They conceded 15 goals in 38 games in the league.
Agreed.
The problem with Mourinho and United coming together could be the timing not working out. If he is truly a dead man walking at Madrid after this season, its odds on that he comes to England.
Personally I feel that if he does come back here to any other club, he'll never manage United - at least not for the next decade. I couldn't see us hiring a current Chelsea or City manager even if they allowed us to, and I don't believe that Mourinho likes being out of work.
Assuming that Ferguson has another 2 or 3 years in him, I could only see Mourinho staying at Madrid or perhaps going to PSG before United.
Personally I feel that if he does come back here to any other club, he'll never manage United - at least not for the next decade. I couldn't see us hiring a current Chelsea or City manager even if they allowed us to, and I don't believe that Mourinho likes being out of work.
Assuming that Ferguson has another 2 or 3 years in him, I could only see Mourinho staying at Madrid or perhaps going to PSG before United.
He ruled out Germany didnt he, when he made a dig at Pep for going there. If you can criticise someone's lack of ambition for choosing to go to Germany, youd look a bit of a twat if you then decided to go to France. So that would suggest even PSG is unlikely.
Which means its England next.
Which means its England next.
When I watched him walk out onto the field for the first time last night you could tell he was looking around and taking it all in, I've little doubt he wants the United job when SAF hangs it up.
People always have issues with managers of other teams that speak out or come across as somewhat arrogant, the difference between Jose and most others is he has the track record and trophies to back it all up, hes also a prick but I would love him to be our prick.
People always have issues with managers of other teams that speak out or come across as somewhat arrogant, the difference between Jose and most others is he has the track record and trophies to back it all up, hes also a prick but I would love him to be our prick.
Probably so. I can see PSG making a big move for him though if he does leave Madrid, and he shouldn't find it difficult to add a French title to his CV with the money they have - maybe even a CL. It would be a nice filler for him, and a logical move. He must know that we won't take him if he comes back here to another club.
Still, we never can tell what the situation is with Ferguson. We won't get any warning about him leaving this time. It could be his last season.
Given he has time on his side, I wonder how many CLs Mourinho will end up winning. And if he does win one with Madrid this season, I wonder how many different teams he will win them with too. Three sets the record but if he does it this season and then comes to us (or City or Chelsea) who would rule out him making it four with four?
He is an extraordinary manager, that is for sure. And a lucky one, as the best managers invariably are.
He is an extraordinary manager, that is for sure. And a lucky one, as the best managers invariably are.
He was magnanimous in victory, a victory that must be twinged with embarrassment for him. He was enormously lucky to knock us out with Porto but that fluke pales in comparison to this one. At least he acknowledged it this time instead of sliding on his knees, so perhaps he has grown up.
Having said all that, you have to look at how his team played when we had to score two goals to knock them out; time-wasting, feigning injury and taking the ball to the corner flag. It was cowardly in the extreme and I would never want to watch utd acting like that in those circumstances. I can almost excuse it if there's one goal in it and it's eleven v eleven but a two goal cushion playing ten men? fecking pathetic.
Having said all that, you have to look at how his team played when we had to score two goals to knock them out; time-wasting, feigning injury and taking the ball to the corner flag. It was cowardly in the extreme and I would never want to watch utd acting like that in those circumstances. I can almost excuse it if there's one goal in it and it's eleven v eleven but a two goal cushion playing ten men? fecking pathetic.
I agree with all youve said. If he goes to PSG it could be interpreted as a very good sign - for those who want him as our next manager, anyway. Because on the surface it makes no sense. The only reason it would make sense is if he was biding his time, which would strongly imply he was waiting to come to us. Otherwise he would just come straight to England next season, either one of Chelsea or City would presumably take him in a heartbeat if he was available.