He's classless cnut and his expensively assembled teams play like cnuts. The great managers are remembered for their style as well as their pots, and their footballing legacy.
Mourinho | New old Chelsea manager
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What's Forest's style of play when they won the champions' league?
What's Argentina's style of play when they won the world cup with Maradona?
Stye, class, etc all are only perceived romantism, 20 years from now nobody remembered anything, the only thing that stays engraved is the pot they won.
Don't be so naive
any team with mourinho as the manager will win trophies.
and i don't get it why he is still getting related to negative football. when he was at chelsea they ended up with most goals during his first 2 seasons there, inter score more goals than any other serie a teams (which is not a hard thing back then), and this season real already have more than 100 league goals.
he will be a bit too defensive against some of the big sides but that is what you call tactics.
and i don't get it why he is still getting related to negative football. when he was at chelsea they ended up with most goals during his first 2 seasons there, inter score more goals than any other serie a teams (which is not a hard thing back then), and this season real already have more than 100 league goals.
he will be a bit too defensive against some of the big sides but that is what you call tactics.
Great managers are those that win things. Style and legacy are merely a thing of personal preference unless they actually influence in even greater winning.
Mourinho is a great manager, quite clearly. And to be honest, Real play a fantastic style of play. I thought Mourinho's teams played dull prior to this but he's proven me wrong at Real. Really like the way they play. Fast, direct, quick short passing interchanges, counter attacks etc.
Spot on.
Great managers are judged on what they won - and Mourinho will be considered one of the best.
People on here seem loath to give him credit and I'm not sure why? His achievements at Real Madrid are unbelieveable considering what he was up against - and he's done it buy buying good young players, often at decent prices.
The "Barca love in" the press and many others seem to indulge in paints him as the bad guy for getting his team stuck in to them (as Chelsea's "heroes" did last night) and not letting them play their game.
The man is succesful wherever he goes, simple as that - he might be abrasive, unlikeable at times - but so is Fergie - its only that Fergie is "ours" that people seem to ignore this and look the other way.
Indeed - the moaning by Barca after El Clasico highlights the point - Sergio Busquets: "you didn't win because you didn't play football" - 3 points says different, as will the name on the trophy at the end of the season.
As much as any side would love to be able to go up against Barca in footballing terms it seems nobody can - so you need to cut your cloth to suit.
I'm actually glad to see real do well becuase Barca, despite being a great side piss me off - they seem to have this "self entitlement" attitude going on that they deserve to win because they pass the ball about - like Arsenal and Wenger moaning when a team get's stuck in instead of laying down and letting them win 4-0.
Had the net stopped moving before he was down the tunnel?
Looks like his luck might have finally run out, delighted to see him fail with the most expensive team on earth.
Maybe has one more year at this club and if he can't bring them the CL then he might leave.
Outplayed by Bayern in both games. If Gomez wasn't such a donkey the scoreline would be far more convincing.
Yep.
What on earth was he thinking putting Ramos at number 4, surely he had better options than him?
Hahahaha. fecked off as well didn't he.
Kinda glad he didnt make it. The media wanking would be unbearable if he won a 3rd with his 3rd club at this early stage of his career. Best Manager Ever bollocks etc etc
He will at some point though. when he takes over United
He will at some point though. when he takes over United
'The Special One' . . . don't make me laugh! 
Egotistical little cnut got his just deserts tonight.
Egotistical little cnut got his just deserts tonight.
It always amazes me why some are so fervently against Mourinho as if he stole their porridge.
But, back to what I wanted to say. I feel he should shoulder much of the blame for the exit. He had the option to chop his team up a little bit, he didn't. He played pretty much the same line up for 3 huge energy zapping games in a row. That showed after the hour mark last night. Also, he took awfully long to introduce Higuain whom I felt should have come on earlier as he could've snatched the winner for them. Also his call to let Ramos take one of the first 5 pens was baffling to be honest. Whilst Ramos might have had the heart, he doesn't have the technique. Higuain and the likes of Marcello, Granero, Khedira should've taken pens before Ramos. So he's got to shoulder much of the blame for this IMO.
But, back to what I wanted to say. I feel he should shoulder much of the blame for the exit. He had the option to chop his team up a little bit, he didn't. He played pretty much the same line up for 3 huge energy zapping games in a row. That showed after the hour mark last night. Also, he took awfully long to introduce Higuain whom I felt should have come on earlier as he could've snatched the winner for them. Also his call to let Ramos take one of the first 5 pens was baffling to be honest. Whilst Ramos might have had the heart, he doesn't have the technique. Higuain and the likes of Marcello, Granero, Khedira should've taken pens before Ramos. So he's got to shoulder much of the blame for this IMO.
Kaka was woeful. And I mean diabolically woeful. I hope Jesus kept the receipt. Maureens bench options arent really that good. City probably have a better squad. The whole "most expensive team ever" thing is a bit of a misnomer. When two players cos over £120m you're always gonna get that, and it's not like he actually signed either of them...he got a fair few things wrong last night tho, and Bayern deserved it. I don't think it proves for a second he's not a top too coach though.
Also, to quote myself from the Bayern thread
Also, to quote myself from the Bayern thread
The fact that he went into the Bayern dressing room after the game and congratulated Heynckes and each player individually showed class.
He's making it all about him again.
He could have done it on the pitch if he hadn't fecked off in a huff.
Then people would have complained he was stealing the limelight.
That's because he does... Constantly.
He's been proven to be an idiot time and time again. He poked someone in the ear earlier this season.
He's constantly bringing up some kind of conspiracy theory, it took him 60 seconds to mention the semi against Liverpool yesterday in his press conference. Every club he goes to are embarrassed by him time and time again.
He shook everybody's hand at Bayern's end before the penalty shootout, acknowledging their performance.
You conveniently missed the part where after the final whistle he wished everyone luck and gave a 'well done' hand shake to basically the entire Bayern team? Wow, staggering, such intense hatred.
The cynical side of me thinks he did it as part of his plan to repair his reputation as a classless cvnt which he has built since taking over at Madrid.
I do think he's a twat yes. He's constantly proven himself to be a classless twat. A few handshakes won't mean shit compared to the years of classless idiotic behaviour.
To be fair he has been cultivating that reputation for quite some time now.
Its went into overdrive since he moved to Spain.
I hope this semi-final defeat will tame the fawning over him for a bit. It's clear he's one of the best coaches in the world, but he is not infallible and the mythical aura he has in the press over here is mind-numbing.
To get outplayed and knocked out by Bayern with that squad is a significant black mark for sure.
To get outplayed and knocked out by Bayern with that squad is a significant black mark for sure.
Why?
Bayern are one of the top European sides, with a top quality squad and solid experience of playing at that level.
You really think the Real have that much better a side than Bayern do?
To add to that Real played Barca at the weekend while Bayern rested Boateng, Kroos, Ribery and Gomez.
The Real squad is quite average for a top one. Probably why he didn't really change the side during this glut of important games. Like Mike said, whatever he does will get jumped on by the haters. With Jose it's always polemic..etc
I'd say they're superior pretty much all over the pitch, yeah. Not that Bayern are poor, but I do think it's quite surprising that they dominated both home and away.
Fergie has lost in CL semi-finals to Dortmund and Leverkusen with superior teams. And was of course knocked out by Mourinho's Porto. These things happen.
Real are pretty average at the back for a top side. Even playing Alonso and Khedira they give up a lot of chances. If they had a couple of players like Vidic and Kompany (in keeping with their superstar policy) they'd be improved immeasurably.
I don't think it's as cut and dry as you make out, not at all actually. See my edit as well, Real had to go 120 minutes following an exhausting match against Barca 4 days earlier, Bayern rested key players against WB.
Quite average?
If Mourinho has spend 120 million euros during his time there, in a team which already had Cassilas, Ronaldo and Benzema, than how the hell has he ended up with an average squad?
Has he spent that? Or is that how much the team was including Perez new galacticos? (I'm genuinely asking, I don't know)
Whatever the case, City's squad is better. They've got a good team, but not much quality depth IMO
Whatever the case, City's squad is better. They've got a good team, but not much quality depth IMO