Mourinho | New old Chelsea manager

That would be the same Barca who between Cruyff and Guardiola have had the likes of Robson, van Gaal, Rijkaard, Antic and none have played for Barca or connected to them before going there?

You've completely missed the point there. I'm talking coaching staff not the Manager alone.
 
You've completely missed the point there. I'm talking coaching staff not the Manager alone.

And as we can see from Arsenal, not changing your staff every so often can lead to stagnation.

Fergie hasn't exactly stuck with his assistant managers has he?
He's chopped and changed. Kept fresh new idea's at the forefront.
 
If Mourinho was willing to come here and fit in at the club without overhauling and bringing in his team, I'd welcome him but I wonder how successful he would be without them.

You'd obviously like some continuity, but you also have to let the new man bring his own people at some level - certainly not a complete overhaul, but any new manager will want a couple of his own. It might be even more scary to succeed Sir Alex while having Sir Alex's team of coaches around you.
 
The Mourinho entourage as it arrived at Real Madrid was Mourinho himself, Rui Faria (fitness coach) Louro (goalkeeping coach) who've both worked with him for years, and Jose Morais who does the scouting reports on opponents.

He hired Karanka, an ex Real Madrid player who was coaching Spain's U15 team, as his assistant. He also asked Zidane to act as an advisor.

At Madrid, the only major coaching personnel change was that 6 months after Mourinho arrived, the reserve team coach got replaced. The reserves subsequently went on a run that took them from bottom half of their division into a promotion playoff place.

There will be changes at United, whoever comes in. Older team members will retire with SAF, some of the younger ones may feel their ambitions are best served elsewhere. What doesn't happen with Mourinho is some kind of clean sweep. Incidentally, I don't think any experienced manager travels alone.
 
That would be the same Barca who between Cruyff and Guardiola have had the likes of Robson, van Gaal, Rijkaard, Antic and none have played for Barca or connected to them before going there?

Whatever you say about Cal?, He never gets tired of Barcelona busting lol

How was that Barca busting? Just pointing out the obvious flaw in the Barca has lots of ex-players managing them theory.
 
And as we can see from Arsenal, not changing your staff every so often can lead to stagnation.

Fergie hasn't exactly stuck with his assistant managers has he?
He's chopped and changed. Kept fresh new idea's at the forefront.

You must have either missed the point I was making or are being very pedantic!
 
According to Makelele's biography Jose was canned by Chelsea after big man JT decided he couldn't work with him and handed in a transfer request to Peter Kenyon. This was denied and Mourinho was told to go do one

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If this is true then chelsea deserve a trophy for stupidity for choosing Terry over Mourinho. I mean there are daft decisions and then there is this.
 
Big Man will be kicked out in the summer and Jose will return...
might happen.
 
According to Makelele's biography Jose was canned by Chelsea after big man JT decided he couldn't work with him and handed in a transfer request to Peter Kenyon. This was denied and Mourinho was told to go do one
So it pretty much confirms Terry got Jose fired.

Drogba, Cech and Ballack got Scolari fired.

Lampard got AVB fired.

What a shambles.
 
They chose Terry over Mourinho? Maureen would have probably left in a couple of years anyway, but the precedent that sets down is ridiculous.

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The Express apparently reporting/shitting that in order to return to Chelsea, he would demand bringing Ronaldo with him.

The hacks are going to have a great deal of fun with this latest Chelsea farce in the weeks to come.
 
If Chelsea don't get in the top 4, which is looking more likely by the week, why would Mourinho join them? And Ronaldo?
 
If Chelsea don't get in the top 4, which is looking more likely by the week, why would Mourinho join them? And Ronaldo?

because he knows R.A. will pay him whatever he wants to turn them around because he has little other option if he wants to be a powerful club. Jose wants to come back to the PL. Where else will he go? Jose was in London last week for no good reason. He's going back to Chav$ki. Ronaldo isn't loved at Madrid and he to will get the contract he could've only dreamt about. Only thing is, it seems strange to sack the manager when Jose can't turn up until end of season.
 
The Express apparently reporting/shitting that in order to return to Chelsea, he would demand bringing Ronaldo with him.

The hacks are going to have a great deal of fun with this latest Chelsea farce in the weeks to come.

Or alternatively the Guardian are reporting that
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because he knows R.A. will pay him whatever he wants to turn them around because he has little other option if he wants to be a powerful club. Jose wants to come back to the PL. Where else will he go? Jose was in London last week for no good reason. He's going back to Chav$ki. Ronaldo isn't loved at Madrid and he to will get the contract he could've only dreamt about. Only thing is, it seems strange to sack the manager when Jose can't turn up until end of season.

Aside from anything else in there; you honestly think Chelsea can give a better contract than Ronaldo is on at Madrid?!
 
Aside from anything else in there; you honestly think Chelsea can give a better contract than Ronaldo is on at Madrid?!

Of course they won't, Ronaldo will be on something around €13m a year after tax at Real soon, Chelsea won't even be able to match let alone top that.
 
I know that was my point! I was surprised that anyone would think Chelsea can compete with them!
 
I know that was my point! I was surprised that anyone would think Chelsea can compete with them!

fair enough, esp the tax angle but it doesn't mean he wouldn't go, regardless - and I can't see Jose going anywhere else in the PL just yet. Unless l'arse think he can turn them around and are prepared to gamble. They have the infrastructure in place.
 
The tax laws recently changed in Spain, so that's one ace they no longer hold up their sleeve.

Also worth bearing in mind the whole eurozone is looking decidedly sketchy at the moment, so it's quite possible that Ronaldo's financial advisers would encourage him to take a job which will help him squirrel away a few million sterling for a rainy day.
 
I think Ronaldo is one player who doesn't have to whore himself to a plastic club - he can pretty much play where he wants to as he is in that bracket of player who will get paid highest wherever he goes. His boyhood dream was to play for Real and if he were to ever leave them it would be for us or for a proper club who he respects (maybe a new challenge at one of the top Italian clubs). Most likely he'll stay at Real though, who are never likely to be skint
 
Not the next England manager, not even close.

Dont see him moving to Chelsea either actually. He's already proved the point there and with their decline since he left, it suits his massive ego to let them continue to struggle. Also, the current chelsea squad needs quite a bit of investment and time, not sure mourinho would fancy a long rebuliding job.
 
The reputation as the man who returned glory to English football. In all honesty he is the only manager capable of doing that.

It won't happen so quickly. The only chaps who can make England into a winning and cohesive unit are the younger players coming through and they'll need at least a few years before they mature. Mourinho would consider it a waste of time taking over for two years while they're all still maturing.
 
It won't happen so quickly. The only chaps who can make England into a winning and cohesive unit are the younger players coming through and they'll need at least a few years before they mature. Mourinho would consider it a waste of time taking over for two years while they're all still maturing.
Mourinho would turn England into a superb team even as they are now.. All England lack is good tactics, self belief and a consistent playing strategy. Moruinho can provide that pretty quickly.
 
Mourinho would turn England into a superb team even as they are now.. All England lack is good tactics, self belief and a consistent playing strategy. Moruinho can provide that pretty quickly.

What are you considering would be a successful tournament for them? I'm assuming a time frame of two international tournaments, the next Euros and the WC in Brazil, if he takes over.
 
According to Makelele's biography Jose was canned by Chelsea after big man JT decided he couldn't work with him and handed in a transfer request to Peter Kenyon. This was denied and Mourinho was told to go do one

There were a lot of rumours kicking up about this at the time I remember.
 
Cue Daily Star coming out with an exclusive on Guardiola bringing Messi to Stamford Bridge.

Working for one of these rags must be the easiest job out there.

The Mirror will go one better and get quotes.

"I've always wanted to live in London as I'm a big fan of Eastenders so it's only natural I play there someday."
 
Mourinho would turn England into a superb team even as they are now.. All England lack is good tactics, self belief and a consistent playing strategy. Moruinho can provide that pretty quickly.

There are very few teams he wouldnt improve, doesnt mean he's going to take those jobs. A job with a national team at his age is not what he needs.
 
There are very few teams he wouldnt improve, doesnt mean he's going to take those jobs. A job with a national team at his age is not what he needs.
I agree. He doesn't have need for it yet. But it would make sense, if he wants to waits for like SAF's job or something like that.

Besides, Jose loves a challenge. There are few roles as challenging as the England job.:D