Morgan Schneiderlin | Everton Player

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How was the hype around the fanbase like during the Veron signing?

Veron was arguably the best midfielder in Europe at one point. He was the definition of "technically gifted".

Right player, wrong time. Bought to give us more creativity and guile - particularly in Europe - but Fergie couldn't fit in him.
 
Gutted to see him leave because I like him. He was great for Southampton and seems like a nice guy.

I was initially annoyed at Mourinho for not playing him, but after seeing Mourinhos man management as of late I completely have faith in him. At the end of the day our manager see's 100x what us fans see. He sees these guys 5 days a week at least. Mourinho has actually enlightened me about how us fans perceive players compared to those who truly know them.


Good luck Schneiderlin!
 
Nice nick by the way. Almost as clever as mine. :D

You've got an A+ username, sir!

Veron was arguably the best midfielder in Europe at one point. He was the definition of "technically gifted".

Right player, wrong time. Bought to give us more creativity and guile - particularly in Europe - but Fergie couldn't fit in him.

Were there any concerns about him not being worth the price (like we saw on the Caf with Pogba), or disrupting our CM chemistry at the time?
 
Good luck to him. Hope, he scores the winner against City!
 
Some english clubs are run so poorly. So United paid 24M, cause they wanted Schneiderlin. Paid him some pretty big wages. Paid some other people they have no use for pretty big wages like Schweinsteiger, Depay and Rooney. So United desperately want to get some wages off their books and Schneiderlin´s performances are non-existent, yet you still pay 22M in transfer fee?`United would have taken 15 imho. Good business from United. Horrible from Everton.
 
Some english clubs are run so poorly. So United paid 24M, cause they wanted Schneiderlin. Paid him some pretty big wages. Paid some other people they have no use for pretty big wages like Schweinsteiger, Depay and Rooney. So United desperately want to get some wages off their books and Schneiderlin´s performances are non-existent, yet you still pay 22M in transfer fee?`United would have taken 15 imho. Good business from United. Horrible from Everton.

Didnt we reject 18 or 19m or something?
You have to keep in mind, its January, we werent "desperate" to sell him, as I think Jose would have been happy to keep him until Summer if needed. If anything Everton would have been more desperate to sign him, given the ACoN and their options in midfield. Plus WBA were also after him so not just one club going for him.
 
Some english clubs are run so poorly. So United paid 24M, cause they wanted Schneiderlin. Paid him some pretty big wages. Paid some other people they have no use for pretty big wages like Schweinsteiger, Depay and Rooney. So United desperately want to get some wages off their books and Schneiderlin´s performances are non-existent, yet you still pay 22M in transfer fee?`United would have taken 15 imho. Good business from United. Horrible from Everton.

That will explain why United turned down 20M :rolleyes:

Schneiderlin is a very good player, granted it didn't work out, United bought a player that improved Soton hoping same player will improve United. We didn't buy him out of desperation. United is not selling a player that flopped, United is selling that can make Everton a very difficult team to beat and Everton should do the right thing and pay for it.
 
I'd write a goodbye poem but wtf rhymes with Schneiderlin?

Here's a shite one:

Auf wiedersehen then Schneiderlin
There's no use in your mitherin'.
You couldn't play out wide or in
The middle.

Now Everton's the side your in
I hope you might provide a win
V city next at Goodisin.
This rhyme is wearing pretty thin -
It's piddle.
 
I'm just glad we are no longer selling on cheap. SAF and Gill would have gifted him to Everton for 7M or less.
 
One of the most pointless and ineffective players we've ever had.

He did absolutely nothing when he played.
 
One of the most pointless and ineffective players we've ever had.

He did absolutely nothing when he played.

We bought him to repeat what he did at Southampton. Then we didn't give him a proper chance to do that. We now get 22m for a player who's been sitting on the bench for quite a while. That shows how highly he still is rated. Will be excellent purchase for Everton.
 
All the best to him, most players improved under Mourinho but he didn't even get a chance, which is an indication in itself.

Won't be missed, even if he performs for Everton
 
22mil is good deal for both teams. Still fairly young, and on the fringes of a very strong French national team. Everton is probably his level. He's not exactly a game changer, but I think he will do very well for them.

For us, it's useful money in the kitty for our next midfield purchase.
 
Phil Neville's just said we will have been keen to force the move through so he could play against City for Everton. Sounds like bollocks to me.

He also said Rooney would prefer to break Sir Bobby's record and score on Sunday than last night because he's an Everton fan playing for United. :lol:

Anyway, good luck to Morgan. I was ecstatic when he was signed and I don't feel he's had a fair chance, but then again he hasn't done much in the moments he has played.

He'll be an excellent signing for Everton and Koeman.
 
Kinda bummed to see him go, thought he was a good replacement for Carrick.

Good luck to the lad!
 
Some english clubs are run so poorly. So United paid 24M, cause they wanted Schneiderlin. Paid him some pretty big wages. Paid some other people they have no use for pretty big wages like Schweinsteiger, Depay and Rooney. So United desperately want to get some wages off their books and Schneiderlin´s performances are non-existent, yet you still pay 22M in transfer fee?`United would have taken 15 imho. Good business from United. Horrible from Everton.

Not really. Players like Schneiderlin are difficult to sign for Everton and will only be interested if they are unhappy at the club they are in. The current condition for Everton to sign him up were right but these things can change quickly with either another big club being interested in him or he manage to impress Mou enough to give him a chance. If the big piece of talentless lump is worth 30m then Schneiderlin is worth at least 22m

I think we're seeing a shift in strategy. Gone are the days when United would spend ridiculous money on Everton, Southampton or some random club in Portugal only to sell their own for next to nothing. The club will put players on the transfer market but will not allow them to leave unless the fee is fair. Hence why Depay is still at OT
 
Not really. Players like Schneiderlin are difficult to sign for Everton and will only be interested if they are unhappy at the club they are in. The current condition for Everton to sign him up were right but these things can change quickly with either another big club being interested in him or he manage to impress Mou enough to give him a chance. If the big piece of talentless lump is worth 30m then Schneiderlin is worth at least 22m

I think we're seeing a shift in strategy. Gone are the days when United would spend ridiculous money on Everton, Southampton or some random club in Portugal only to sell their own for next to nothing. The club will put players on the transfer market but will not allow them to leave unless the fee is fair. Hence why Depay is still at OT

I think you're dead right. Teams can hold out.
 
I think its fair to say theres probably been some inflation in transfer fees since the window we signed him.

Tolisso is on the market for 40M+, Strootman probably wouldn't have been available for under 20M. Everton have a small pool to pick from, with Schneiderlin being a safe choice.
 
Actually got a decent fee as a selling club, kudos Jose.
 
Not really. Players like Schneiderlin are difficult to sign for Everton and will only be interested if they are unhappy at the club they are in. The current condition for Everton to sign him up were right but these things can change quickly with either another big club being interested in him or he manage to impress Mou enough to give him a chance. If the big piece of talentless lump is worth 30m then Schneiderlin is worth at least 22m

I think we're seeing a shift in strategy. Gone are the days when United would spend ridiculous money on Everton, Southampton or some random club in Portugal only to sell their own for next to nothing. The club will put players on the transfer market but will not allow them to leave unless the fee is fair. Hence why Depay is still at OT
Helps that we are selling a player that is still desirable and wanted by multiple clubs. Will be much more interesting to see how much we get for Depay and Januzaj.
 
All the best to him, most players improved under Mourinho but he didn't even get a chance, which is an indication in itself.

Won't be missed, even if he performs for Everton
If they can't motivate themselves to perform on a training field away from the eyes of the world, then they don't get that chance.
That's football. From groundroots to chopped planks.
 
Good luck to the player. Despite hardly playing, never made a fuss and there were no comments from his agent as well.
 
As I see it there are three reasons for his departure:

1. He was ineffective when used as a holding or defensive midfielder. His strength at Southampton was in his box to box combativeness, taking the game by the scruff of its neck.

His passing, positioning and defending came apart when used in the Carrick role.

2. The box to box midfield roles have been filled by better players. First, because of Pogba's arrival. Second, because Mourinho has preferred Herrera right from the beginning. Herrera is a better passer and better goalscorer.

3. This side hasn't suffered as many injuries, so he hasn't had a chance to play his way into the side.

I like his game, but he wasn't able to make a two man midfield work and his all around skills weren't specialized enough for a three man midfield.

United has to break teams down which means that the midfielders must be able to contribute goals or assists, and he failed at that.

On a positive note, Schweinsteiger can take his place on the bench which is a nicer place for him to be.
 
Did he ever at any point have an outstanding match for us?
His best performance was probably Everton away that I can think of. Scored a good goal and generally played well all match.

I don't remember him ever having any real shockers, but they were always just average. Just not enough for what we needed in midfield compared to Pogba and Herrera.
 
He would have been good if he had a pure dm like wanyama playing next to him. Now he will form a beastly partnership with gueye.
 
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