Morgan Schneiderlin | Everton Player

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Robertd0803 said:
Think it could have been based on the feckers always turning up against us. And Baines at one point was arguably the best left back in the league and would have been a good buy a few years ago. Slightly biased towards Coleman considering he is the Ireland captain but not sure I ever would have wanted him at Old Trafford, Barkley has never fulfilled his (arguable) potential yet and simply no to McCarthy.

Also feck Everton. They probably plan their transfers 3 or 4 years ahead based on who in our current team we will be likely to get rid of at that time.
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Think a lot of it with Coleman, McCarthy is simply that, there Irish and the Irish fans over-rated them. Baines yes but the other 4 you listed were never good enough.

What are Everton fans making of this?
 
Bwuk said:
Think a lot of it with Coleman, McCarthy is simply that, there Irish and the Irish fans over-rated them. Baines yes but the other 4 you listed were never good enough.

What are Everton fans making of this?
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Everyone is very happy with it. Mostly because his Southampton form is still ingrained into everyones head because he has gone off the radar that much at United.

The potential partnership of him And Gueye could be great for us aswell, whiles lacking creativity I should imagine them pair will be a nightmare for the opposition to play against with how much energy they have. Schneiderlain instead of Barry will probably see us pushed 10 yards further most games allowing us to press how Koeman wants aswell. We just need 3 top quality signings for the positions behind Lukaku and things will be looking up again or Barkley needs to step up finally.
 
Had my doubts when we signed him. He was good for Southampton but not outstanding. He seemed to go into his shell at United after a few games. His weaknesses were exposed, terrible passing for a 'top CM' and poor attacking contribution, and defensively he was solid enough without being the amazing ball winner he was touted to be. I don't think he can be used as a B2B midfielder for a top team, he just doesn't have the talent.

It will be a good signing for Everton, but now they have spent £50m on Bolaise and Schneiderlin, two decent Premiership players which isn't great business IMO.
 
SambaBoy said:
Had my doubts when we signed him. He was good for Southampton but not outstanding. He seemed to go into his shell at United after a few games. His weaknesses were exposed, terrible passing for a 'top CM' and poor attacking contribution, and defensively he was solid enough without being the amazing ball winner he was touted to be. I don't think he can be used as a B2B midfielder for a top team, he just doesn't have the talent.

It will be a good signing for Everton, but now they have spent £50m on Bolaise and Schneiderlin, two decent Premiership players which isn't great business IMO.
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I would agree.
 
I think he'll reignite his Southampton form and go to PSG for 30m+ in a couple of years.
 
Finally we get a respectable fee for one of our players,nice to see.
Good luck to Morgan
 
Rolandofgilead said:
It isn't a hate campaign, it's just he offers very little to the side. Even when he is doing a job he is usually moments away from being sent off or committing a silly foul in a needless position. We need to ship him out and use the funds to replace him with a more suitable player.
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Yeah haha, its not a hate campaign when the performances he puts in for the club is utter garbage, its a hate campaign if a player say like carrick is hated because he was never roy keane in terms of the style lol
 
BigDunc9 said:
We just need 3 top quality signings for the positions behind Lukaku and things will be looking up again or Barkley needs to step up finally.
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Barkley will have zero excuses to hide behind now. If Koeman does employ Morgan and Gueye behind him he couldn't ask for better protection and more scope to attack with freedom.

I was in Singapore last year and went to the preseason tournament between Everton, Arsenal, Stoke and Sing. He was the best player on the pitch throughout the two days and just oozed class throughout.

I know that was only preseason but it's frustrating to see how good he can be versus what he puts out consistently.
 
diarm said:
Barkley will have zero excuses to hide behind now. If Koeman does employ Morgan and Gueye behind him he couldn't ask for better protection and more scope to attack with freedom.

I was in Singapore last year and went to the preseason tournament between Everton, Arsenal, Stoke and Sing. He was the best player on the pitch throughout the two days and just oozed class throughout.

I know that was only preseason but it's frustrating to see how good he can be versus what he puts out consistently.
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It genuinely makes me angry knowing how good he could become. Even against Southampton the other week he absolutely ran the show after weeks of bad form and it gives you hope it could be the game the penny drops with him and then the week later he was invisible. As you said now though he has a great base to work with.
 
I think both clubs have done well. We usually get done over with fees so nice to see us pretty much recoup what we paid & Everton pay a normal price given PL money these days.

I think he will always be a good player in a one dimensional way, which isn't necessarily bad, and do a solid job in front of the back four. A base of Gueye and Schneirderlin with Barkley in front could actually be a decent combination. Maybe one wide player short of a very good team...

-------Schneiderlin - Gueye-------
--------------Barkley---------------
Bolasie-------------Mirallas/Lennon
--------------Lukaku---------------
 
Hemil said:
He would have been good if he had a pure dm like wanyama playing next to him. Now he will form a beastly partnership with gueye.
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See that doesn't hold weight for me. Herrera and Pogba function well with Carrick with a bit of defensive responsibility. Schneiderlin was supposed to be better than them defensively, so why can't he function with Carrick? Unless you think he needs no defensive duties but that isn't true and not how he played for Southampton.
 
SilentWitness said:
I think he'll reignite his Southampton form and go to PSG for 30m+ in a couple of years.
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He's 27 and spend almost his entire career in England.

He's a good player but the last two players you got from us have been unquestionable flops( Cleverely and Gibson). Reading GOT, seems the Everton fans hate them more than we did.Its not a done deal at all, he's not a certainty to do well there.
 
Had huge hopes when we signed him....

Not really too disappointed he's leaving - he just never semed to be as good for us as he was for Southampton, for whatever reason, and he deserves a starting place somewhere in the PL rather than fading into complete obscurity.

Best Wishes and Good Luck at Everton.
 
pocco said:
See that doesn't hold weight for me. Herrera and Pogba function well with Carrick with a bit of defensive responsibility. Schneiderlin was supposed to be better than them defensively, so why can't he function with Carrick? Unless you think he needs no defensive duties but that isn't true and not how he played for Southampton.
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K2K said:
Van Gaal played him with Carrick in a double pivot.

That didn't work either.
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There is a lot of difference between Carrick and Wanyama.. Isn't it? Carrick can't run and tackle and is not a play-breaker like wanyama for sure. Schneiderlin doesn't need a passer next to him... He needs a destroyer.
 
Hemil said:
There is a lot of difference between Carrick and Wanyama.. Isn't it? Carrick can't run and tackle and is not a play-breaker like wanyama for sure. Schneiderlin doesn't need a passer next to him... He needs a destroyer.
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It seems like some players have a long line of excuses lined up for them.

Yes,Morgan did well once with Wanyama but that doesn't mean he will replicate it elsewhere. He's succeeded once with Wanyama and failed once without him.So from a probability scenario, either outcome is likely even with a new destroyer.

His United failings cannot simply be explained by a lack of a Wanyama like player.
 
As soon as you start saying a player "needs xxx player" next to them, at a team like United, you know you're facing a losing battle.

It's Manchester United, you should be an excellent player to even get here!
 
Sandikan said:
As soon as you start saying a player "needs xxx player" next to them, at a team like United, you know you're facing a losing battle.

It's Manchester United, you should be an excellent player to even get here!
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This. Unless you're some Pogba level talent that can lift the team when things are put in place to maximize your skills, then you need to be more versatile.
 
AR87 said:
This. Unless you're some Pogba level talent that can lift the team when things are put in place to maximize your skills, then you need to be more versatile.
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It's been a worrying time over the last few years. We spent colossal sums on midfielders, yet people still reckoned we needed another couple!

However, this team now look the real business. We look a powerhouse outfit befitting Manchester United now.
Just a shame we had that ropey spell. But you have to go through those sometimes.
 
Who did Schneiderlain play with in Southamptons first season back in the Prem? Wanyama didn't join til the second season did he?
 
Sandikan said:
As soon as you start saying a player "needs xxx player" next to them, at a team like United, you know you're facing a losing battle.

It's Manchester United, you should be an excellent player to even get here!
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It's not that simple, the problem is when what you described is applied to a squad player, in rugby they use the expression "utility player" when you are not at a starter level you need to be flexible and useful in almost everyone scenarios, those players are extremely valuable. But it wasn't the case for Schneiderlin.
 
tomaldinho1 said:
I think both clubs have done well. We usually get done over with fees so nice to see us pretty much recoup what we paid & Everton pay a normal price given PL money these days.

I think he will always be a good player in a one dimensional way, which isn't necessarily bad, and do a solid job in front of the back four. A base of Gueye and Schneirderlin with Barkley in front could actually be a decent combination. Maybe one wide player short of a very good team...

-------Schneiderlin - Gueye-------
--------------Barkley---------------
Bolasie-------------Mirallas/Lennon
--------------Lukaku---------------
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He's out for about a year
 
He wasn't great but he wasn't bad either. But Jose seems to fancy Fellaini over him so he'll get more game time at Everton.
 
Hemil said:
There is a lot of difference between Carrick and Wanyama.. Isn't it? Carrick can't run and tackle and is not a play-breaker like wanyama for sure. Schneiderlin doesn't need a passer next to him... He needs a destroyer.
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Why does he need a destroyer when the more attack minded Herrera and Pogba don't? I just don't buy it. It's not even like he's some superb attacking talent, he's probably better defensively himself.
 
pocco said:
Why does he need a destroyer when the more attack minded Herrera and Pogba don't? I just don't buy it. It's not even like he's some superb attacking talent, he's probably better defensively himself.
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It's weird, I was led to believe Schneiderlin is a 'destroyer', whatever that means. Just feeds the conclusion that he's not really defined himself as a player and is not good enough at any one thing to do so.
 
Would have been interesting to see him get a game or two ahead of Ander as I think that is his direct competition (in terms of best position) but Ander's form has been too good to allow for it.

Didnt work, thanks for the effort, move on.
 
It says on Wiki that he has played 32 games for us, 29 last season. It doesn't take into account how many sub appearances and that - but I can barely remember any performance from him, good or bad. (Except one moment where we were 1-0 up against someone, Memphis lost the ball and Schneiderlim who just came on, slowly jogged back while the other team equalised).

Felt he would be a great signing based on what I saw at Southamtpon but it was just not the case. Wish him the best of luck, apart from when it's against us.
 
He's going to play like a man possessed against us in future encounters, which will be annoying given the way he mentally collapsed here.
 
United just made it official.
 
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