Morgan Schneiderlin | Everton Player

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Seems like a win win for all concerned. Schneiderlin gets a move to a decent PL club where he will play every week under a good manager who he knows. United get a significant transfer fee for once and Jose gets to trim his squad a bit.

Evertons spine suddenly looks strong. Koeman can recreate his Southampton midfield with Gueye and Schneiderlin looking like the perfect fit. Having those two should give great license to players like Barkley and Bolasie to focus on attacking and I wouldn't be surprised to see them finish the season well.
 
£22million is what we expected and it's a good fee given he's barely kicked a ball since the summer. We recoup most of our money, which is rare for us, Morgan gets a good club and first-team football.

He'll do well there. Hopefully not against us, though.
 
This is Amazing. £22 Million for a player who has barely featured since he has been here. This is Jose magic. We would have got about £10-15 Million at a push in the past. Now this is really getting rid of dead wood as apposed to LVG who brought it.
 
diarm said:
Seems like a win win for all concerned. Schneiderlin gets a move to a decent PL club where he will play every week under a good manager who he knows. United get a significant transfer fee for once and Jose gets to trim his squad a bit.

Evertons spine suddenly looks strong. Koeman can recreate his Southampton midfield with Gueye and Schneiderlin looking like the perfect fit. Having those two should give great license to players like Barkley and Bolasie to focus on attacking and I wouldn't be surprised to see them finish the season well.
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Yeah, except Bolasie may not actually play til 2018!

But yeah the defensive aspect of their midfield looks good.
 
A good fee in the circumstances but, like many, I had such high hopes for him

You have to wonder if he didn't have the mentality to be a Manchester United player - that intangible quality that Fergie always talked about. Never stood up and took his opportunity.
 
Shame his move to United didnt really work out. He possesses a very good all around game but Jose isn't able to offer him the regular football he needs. He will fit nicely in to the starting XI at Everton and improve them. Good luck to him.
 
Skills said:
What does this mean for CAF favourite James McCarthy?
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Never understood the hype around him. He just runs around a lot and plays sideways passes like your average Premier League midfielder.
 
Skills said:
What does this mean for CAF favourite James McCarthy?
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You're joking, right? He was rated highly when he was playing well and we basically had no midfield. I've literally seen no one on here say anything even remotely positive about McCarthy in a very long time!
 
That's a £22m gift from LVG to Jose right there. Signing players with that sort of sell on value is virtually impossible.
 
the only thing that upsets me is the fee, we bought him for 24 and are selling him for 22 in a rising market 18 months later
 
According to Sky sources, Morgan Schneiderlin's fee could rise to £24m with add-ons (£22m + £2m add-ons).
 
I think that he is a good player, I can see him have the same trajectory than Tiago but I didn't like the fee we paid for him.
 
Ferguson said:
As I see it there are three reasons for his departure:

1. He was ineffective when used as a holding or defensive midfielder. His strength at Southampton was in his box to box combativeness, taking the game by the scruff of its neck.

His passing, positioning and defending came apart when used in the Carrick role.

2. The box to box midfield roles have been filled by better players. First, because of Pogba's arrival. Second, because Mourinho has preferred Herrera right from the beginning. Herrera is a better passer and better goalscorer.

3. This side hasn't suffered as many injuries, so he hasn't had a chance to play his way into the side.

I like his game, but he wasn't able to make a two man midfield work and his all around skills weren't specialized enough for a three man midfield.

United has to break teams down which means that the midfielders must be able to contribute goals or assists, and he failed at that.

On a positive note, Schweinsteiger can take his place on the bench which is a nicer place for him to be.
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Pretty sure Fellaini is well ahead of Bastian, and will remain so.
 
A better off-the-ball player than on-the-ball - and for a club like United, that's probably been his biggest downfall.

He felt the pressure when the onus was on him to make the game - and this, probably, has been the prime reason he's left the club.

A good, solid player though and will improve Everton immediately.
 
manc exile said:
the only thing that upsets me is the fee, we bought him for 24 and are selling him for 22 in a rising market 18 months later
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might be a rising market - but the guy has hardly played. Everton know that too. They are coming from strength...he's not wanted at your club.
 
EyeInTheSky said:
This is Amazing. £22 Million for a player who has barely featured since he has been here. This is Jose magic. We would have got about £10-15 Million at a push in the past. Now this is really getting rid of dead wood as apposed to LVG who brought it.
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I wouldn't place this as Mourinho Magic. I would say more Woodward then anything else.
 
manc exile said:
the only thing that upsets me is the fee, we bought him for 24 and are selling him for 22 in a rising market 18 months later
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Have you seen how much we have received for players in the past?

To get 90% back of the money we paid for him considering he barely played for us is amazing.
 
It's a good fee for someone who's barely played for 18 monthes. Schneiderlin is a decent player but took the easy option of passing sideways or backwards too many times which made it difficult for us to do anything in games. Maybe it was because of van Gaal but I think Koeman will get him back to the form he showed at Southampton.
 
Its very easy for Jose to say he is unhappy becuase he likes Morgan but is happy he can play again. I think Jose wanted him gone and the fact he asked to leave done Jose a favour.
 
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Veron was arguably the best midfielder in Europe at one point. He was the definition of "technically gifted".

Right player, wrong time. Bought to give us more creativity and guile - particularly in Europe - but Fergie couldn't fit in him.
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This wasn't what @MounchesterUtd asked.

The buzz around getting Veron was sensational mate, United's record signings prior to that had been the likes of Robbo, Pallister, Keane, Cole, Yorke... all tried and trusted English League players but none of whom at the time of purchase were considered the best in the World in their position. Even our 2 foreign record signings prio were Stam and Ruud, but both were from PSV and were "on the up" players you could say. To get a a cream of the crop player like Veron from Serie A felt like a massive turning point.
 
That's a good fee considering how awful he's been in his time at United. He'll probably suit the aspirations at Everton much better.
 
Sparky Rhiwabon said:
A good fee in the circumstances but, like many, I had such high hopes for him

You have to wonder if he didn't have the mentality to be a Manchester United player - that intangible quality that Fergie always talked about. Never stood up and took his opportunity.
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No need to wonder, mate. He definitely didn't have it.

Hid from the ball time and time again. And yet was usually commanding when playing for Southampton. He simply shrunk at OT.
 
diarm said:
Seems like a win win for all concerned. Schneiderlin gets a move to a decent PL club where he will play every week under a good manager who he knows. United get a significant transfer fee for once and Jose gets to trim his squad a bit.

Evertons spine suddenly looks strong. Koeman can recreate his Southampton midfield with Gueye and Schneiderlin looking like the perfect fit. Having those two should give great license to players like Barkley and Bolasie to focus on attacking and I wouldn't be surprised to see them finish the season well.
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I presume it also spells the end for another former Red at Goodison... where next for Tom Cleverley?
 
I never really understood why we bought both him and Basti. Morgan certainly never gave me any reason to get excited when I saw him play. He never got a real chance I guess but he was never going to be the new Michael Carrick, as far as I am/was concerned
 
Good player, terrible signing. He was a box to box man with Southampton and then all kinds of nonsense was being talked about him maybe replacing Carrick or playing a similar type of role. When did he ever show the attributes to do that? United also has never really used a pure box to box player in recent years, except for when Moyes used Fellaini in that role a couple of times (don't think LVG used him purely in that way). Boggles my mind why we signed him if he wasn't going to be allowed to carry out the role he was good at.

Anyway, I wish him the best. Quite annoyed that we seemed to waste a perfectly good player.
 
mitchmouse said:
I never really understood why we bought both him and Basti. Morgan certainly never gave me any reason to get excited when I saw him play. He never got a real chance I guess but he was never going to be the new Michael Carrick, as far as I am/was concerned
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Bastian for the experience in a team struggling with very few leaders and Morgan as young up and coming player that would become a first team mainstay for the next 5 plus years.

It made a lot of sense that Summer. Sadly, they were both massive flops.
 
marlowe78 said:
Good player, terrible signing. He was a box to box man with Southampton and then all kinds of nonsense was being talked about him maybe replacing Carrick or playing a similar type of role. When did he ever show the attributes to do that? United also has never really used a pure box to box player in recent years, except for when Moyes used Fellaini in that role a couple of times (don't think LVG used him purely in that way). Boggles my mind why we signed him if he wasn't going to be allowed to carry out the role he was good at.

Anyway, I wish him the best. Quite annoyed that we seemed to waste a perfectly good player.
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We did try him as a box-to-box with Carrick holding earlier in the season and he didnt ull up any trees either. Also played him a 3 with Herrera and Carrick(The West Ham game comes to mind), and he was diabolical.

He did get some chances, its just that his perfomances here really never warranted more opportunities.
 
Skills said:
What does this mean for CAF favourite James McCarthy?
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FFS. :lol: I remember when Baines, McCarthy, Coleman and Barkley were all going to fix our team. Stones was a year later, maybe? It's hilarious how overrated Everton were on this forum.
 
DWelbz19 said:
FFS. :lol: I remember when Baines, McCarthy, Coleman and Barkley were all going to fix our team. Stones was a year later, maybe? It's hilarious how overrated Everton were on this forum.
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Think it could have been based on the feckers always turning up against us. And Baines at one point was arguably the best left back in the league and would have been a good buy a few years ago. Slightly biased towards Coleman considering he is the Ireland captain but not sure I ever would have wanted him at Old Trafford, Barkley has never fulfilled his (arguable) potential yet and simply no to McCarthy.

Also feck Everton. They probably plan their transfers 3 or 4 years ahead based on who in our current team we will be likely to get rid of at that time.
 
mitchmouse said:
I never really understood why we bought both him and Basti. Morgan certainly never gave me any reason to get excited when I saw him play. He never got a real chance I guess but he was never going to be the new Michael Carrick, as far as I am/was concerned
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I agree with what @K2K said in his post. In hindsight, it's easy to be critical of purchases made but I believe the general consensus among Caftards at the time was that Basti would rotate with Carrick and Morgan would do their running. Sadly it didn't work out for all concerned (except Bayern and Southampton of course) and here we are - almost a year and a half later still trying to iron out the kinks in our midfield.

K2K said:
Bastian for the experience in a team struggling with very few leaders and Morgan as young up and coming player that would become a first team mainstay for the next 5 plus years.

It made a lot of sense that Summer. Sadly, they were both massive flops.
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