Morgan Schneiderlin | BBC: Morgan Schneiderlin is currently having a medical at Manchester United.

[buckooo1978]

shocked he has 50% more passes than Carrick in less games - get it done

 

[hebegebe]

You're easily pleased. Hargreaves was a limited player, and injury prone.

Injury prone yes, limited player no.

 

[Moonred]

Carrick played so many games?

 

[Adam-Utd]

shocked he has 50% more passes than Carrick in less games - get it done

I can't believe that to be honest. Carrick is usually the top passer in our team in terms of numbers, I would be very surprised if Herrera got more passes in total. Southampton also didn't dominate as many games as us, it doesn't quite make sense. If it is true though it shows how well rounded he is.

 

[rover]

maybe it's about time to tag in @JPRouve to give us some hindsight about his compatriot? he didn't say much about schneiderlin, did he? strange

 

[rover]

the gooners in caf are really pathetic, daily stars, sun & metro are the only sources they can base on to make a comment. i didn't come out to say anything about schneiderlin until i saw something from the french side. though i can't read in deep what did they say in details, lol

 

[POF]

Yes but Schwein and Schneiderlin can also play the 6. So if a Carrick injury occurs then Gundo would be in the 8 position. Gundo would also be good cover for Herrera.

Agreed. But if Herrera was injured what sort of midfield would you have with Carrick, Schweinsteiger and Schneiderlin? If United sign two midfielders this summer, one needs to be more creative/offensive than Schweinstiger or Schneiderlin.

 

[Jayvin]

The Ronaldinho link came from some average journalist who knew nothing about Anderson and wanted to write something about him. It was evident from day 1 that the only thing that Ando and Ronaldinho was their nationality.

The 'next' tags are always a load of shite anyway. But Anderson was a brilliant talent as a youngster. Obviously he never fulfilled his potential at United (maybe the leg break at Porto had something to do with that), but I'm still glad we signed him. Personally I think his CL final penalty was worth every bit of his £20m fee.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Agreed. But if Herrera was injured what sort of midfield would you have with Carrick, Schweinsteiger and Schneiderlin? If United sign two midfielders this summer, one needs to be more creative/offensive than Schweinstiger or Schneiderlin.

Schweinstiger is on a different level to Schneiderlin. He's one of the most complete midfielders, unless he's regressed big time. Contributes in all aspects of the game.

 

[MDFC Manager]

Agreed. But if Herrera was injured what sort of midfield would you have with Carrick, Schweinsteiger and Schneiderlin? If United sign two midfielders this summer, one needs to be more creative/offensive than Schweinstiger or Schneiderlin.

There's Mata, Pereira and Janujaz that play in place of Herrera. Not like for like replacements of course but they would bring in different strengths

 

[JPRouve]

maybe it's about time to tag in @JPRouve to give us some hindsight about his compatriot? he didn't say much about schneiderlin, did he? strange

I don't really know what to say, he played his entire professional career with Southampton, he loves England to the point that when he was snubbed by Blanc and Deschamps some rumors emerged that England could be an option.
He is a box to box good on the ball, not particularly big but deceptively powerful. For me he is still a potential despite his 25 years old, because with France he isn't impressive someone like Kondogbia has shown a little bit more, but I think that Schneiderlin could be the better player after adapting to United and familiarizing with his teammates.

 

[devilish]

They were also all signed by big clubs, with excellent scouts, which completely negates your point about us only signing Anderson because our scouts were shit.

I am talking about Ando whom our chief scout (who took the role despite having zero experience in it) thought he was more talented than Rooney. Had Anderson even been more talented than Rooney?

 

[Johan77]

Carrick played so many games?

No, Carrick only started 16 games, of which 2 was a center half. He came of the bench in 2 games. We only lost 1 of these 16 games, which means we lost 7 of the other 22 games Carrick didn't start. Shocking stats.

 

[Rowem]

Agreed. But if Herrera was injured what sort of midfield would you have with Carrick, Schweinsteiger and Schneiderlin?

3 DMs, Mourinho's dream midfield.

Plenty of more attacking options to play in front of 2 DMs in the current squad even with Herrera out - Mata, Rooney, Di Maria, Fellaini, Pereira, Januzaj

 

[devilish]

We bought a young player with potential. It's not our fault that he didn't turn out right and had injury issues.

Well in some ways you're right but in others you're wrong

Its not our fault that Ando was unable to grab simple concepts like distributing his energy throughout the entire 90 minutes. His recent 'performance' (being substituted after 20 minutes and ending up taking oxygen) shames him to great length and has nothing to do with injuries.

Having said that, our chief scout messed it up. Ando was never even close to Rooney in terms of talent. Also while talented Ando was an attacking midfielder who couldn't score goals which means that whoever signs him up will have to change his role. While I do acknowledge that sometimes these transformations work, I am not a firm supporter of such strategy. Call me old fashioned but if a club had to send 20m+ on a midfielder than in my opinion we should buy one instead of an AMC

 

[Xaviesta]

I don't really know what to say, he played his entire professional career with Southampton, he loves England to the point that when he was snubbed by Blanc and Deschamps some rumors emerged that England could be an option.
He is a box to box good on the ball, not particularly big but deceptively powerful. For me he is still a potential despite his 25 years old, because with France he isn't impressive someone like Kondogbia has shown a little bit more, but I think that Schneiderlin could be the better player after adapting to United and familiarizing with his teammates.

How reliable is L'equipe? They're running with the story that Schneiderlin is set to sign for United.

 

[JPRouve]

How reliable is L'equipe? They're running with the story that Schneiderlin is set to sign for United.

They are reliable, Canal Plus already 'announced it' and they are also reliable, we just need a confirmation from RMC and all the reliable sources will be involved.

 

[Feed Me]

shocked he has 50% more passes than Carrick in less games - get it done

Those stats are bullshit.

There is no way Carrick has made that many less passes than the other three players in more games.

 

[POF]

There's Mata, Pereira and Janujaz that play in place of Herrera. Not like for like replacements of course but they would bring in different strengths

3 DMs, Mourinho's dream midfield.

Plenty of more attacking options to play in front of 2 DMs in the current squad even with Herrera out - Mata, Rooney, Di Maria, Fellaini, Pereira, Januzaj

Just my opinion but I believe United's greatest need is to be more creative. Wide to Young and cross it to Fellaini was the main attacking threat in the latter half of last season and other teams had figured it out by the end of the season.

They need to add much more versatility to the attack this season. I can't see more than two midfield signings this summer so if it is to be Schneiderlin and Schweinsteiger, there would need to be some absolute game changers brought in for the front 3.

 

[rover]

it's not just about one french paper to run out a story. there has been several of them running similar stories at a critical moment in the same time. usually it really means something

 

[buckooo1978]

Those stats are bullshit.

There is no way Carrick has made that many less passes than the other three players in more games.

it's got to be.... would mean Carrick averaged 40 passes a game - no way

 

[JPRouve]

Those stats are bullshit.

There is no way Carrick has made that many less passes than the other three players in more games.

It's 18 games not 28.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Yeah, they definitely got Carrick's number of games wrong. Assume the rest of the stats are legit though?

 

[Bojan11]

Carrick played in 18 games not 28.

 

[Cassidy]

shocked he has 50% more passes than Carrick in less games - get it done

He played more games than Carrick hence the greater no of passes, see the per 90 min metric:

http://www.squawka.com/comparison-m...erceptions/blocks/tackles_won/yellow_cards#90

 

[JPRouve]

Just my opinion but I believe United's greatest need is to be more creative. Wide to Young and cross it to Fellaini was the main attacking threat in the latter half of last season and other teams had figured it out by the end of the season.

They need to add much more versatility to the attack this season. I can't see more than two midfield signings this summer so if it is to be Schneiderlin and Schweinsteiger, there would need to be some absolute game changers brought in for the front 3.

United needs to be more creative and for that we need to play our creative players in their best positions, which was impossible because of our lack of presence in midfield. Schneiderlin will allow Herrera to play in his best position as an advanced midfielder, it will allow Di Maria to be more Gung ho thanks to a better cover and with a player like him Mata becomes a viable option in the hole, with a double pivot behind him.
But at the same time Schneiderlin is less an hindrance than Fellaini in the possession game because he is agile and good passer.

 

[Cassidy]

United needs to be more creative and for that we need to play our creative players in their best positions, which was impossible because of our lack of presence in midfield. Schneiderlin will allow Herrera to play in his best position as an advanced midfielder, it will allow Di Maria to be more Gung ho thanks to a better cover and with a player like him Mata becomes a viable option in the hole, with a double pivot behind him.
But at the same time Schneiderlin is less an hindrance than Fellaini in the possession game because he is agile and good passer.

Agree with this

 

[buckooo1978]

He played more games than Carrick hence the greater no of passes, see the per 90 min metric:

http://www.squawka.com/comparison-m...erceptions/blocks/tackles_won/yellow_cards#90

yes that look more realistic.....Sky Sports have Carrick as playing 28 games rather than 18 - sack the researcher

 

[newgiz]

I am worried that we will cock this up waiting for Schweinsteiger. I don't really understand why we can't just go ahead and sign both. If we sign both it adds great depth and quality in the middle of the pitch.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

I am worried that we will cock this up waiting for Schweinsteiger. I don't really understand why we can't just go ahead and sign both. If we sign both it adds great depth and quality in the middle of the pitch.

Agree. Schweinstiger, Schniederlin, carrick and Herrera, with blind as someone who can play multiple positions. Perfect for a long season ahead.

 

[ehsanul]

Some expert claiming L'Equipe article is based on english papers,so its not their information.If thats the case then there is nothing new there.

 

[Rowem]

I can't see more than two midfield signings this summer so if it is to be Schneiderlin and Schweinsteiger, there would need to be some absolute game changers brought in for the front 3.

That works for me. A solid midfield and give real license to the front 3. Think Depay could make a difference, the fact we were/have been linked to Firminho and Kane as well I wouldn't be surprised if we are still looking for another forward option. Got to offload the RVP/Chicharito first.

 

[AKDevil]

This so close it scares me we'll mess it on.
The prospect of Herrerra and Schneiderlin signed up in their mid-20s and then being the basis of our midfield for the next four, five years is pretty exciting. Please don't mess this up!!

 

[Bojan11]

Some expert claiming L'Equipe article is based on english papers,so its not their information.If thats the case then there is nothing new there.

I'm going to put what I said in the twitter thread before everyone goes into meltdown.

No they didn't. They said British press have got it wrong about a fee being agreed, but it's a matter of time.

 

[ThanksBoss26]

United needs to be more creative and for that we need to play our creative players in their best positions, which was impossible because of our lack of presence in midfield. Schneiderlin will allow Herrera to play in his best position as an advanced midfielder, it will allow Di Maria to be more Gung ho thanks to a better cover and with a player like him Mata becomes a viable option in the hole, with a double pivot behind him.
But at the same time Schneiderlin is less an hindrance than Fellaini in the possession game because he is agile and good passer.

Completely agree. I hope we sign both Schweinsteiger and Schneiderlin for this reason.

 

[JPRouve]

Some expert claiming L'Equipe article is based on english papers,so its not their information.If thats the case then there is nothing new there.

They don't, in the article they say that Schneiderlin agreed with United on a 4 years contract, they also say that negotiation between the clubs are ongoing and a fee hasn't been agreed yet. At the end of the article they say that according to the rumor in England the fee could be around 30m€.

 

[Insanity]

Well in some ways you're right but in others you're wrong

Its not our fault that Ando was unable to grab simple concepts like distributing his energy throughout the entire 90 minutes. His recent 'performance' (being substituted after 20 minutes and ending up taking oxygen) shames him to great length and has nothing to do with injuries.

Having said that, our chief scout messed it up. Ando was never even close to Rooney in terms of talent. Also while talented Ando was an attacking midfielder who couldn't score goals which means that whoever signs him up will have to change his role. While I do acknowledge that sometimes these transformations work, I am not a firm supporter of such strategy. Call me old fashioned but if a club had to send 20m+ on a midfielder than in my opinion we should buy one instead of an AMC

I don't know about the Rooney comparisons. Like you said, he didn't have goals in him to become an AM; neither did he have the skill to put proper weight behind his passes. What he did have though was an eye for a pass and ability to run with the ball in the midfield. I can see why we thought that he could play as a central midfielder.

Shame that it turned the way it did because of his poor discipline and injury troubles. Still only 27.

 

[devilish]

I don't know about the Rooney comparisons. Like you said, he didn't have goals in him to become an AM; neither did he have the skill to put proper weight behind his passes. What he did have though was an eye for a pass and ability to run with the ball in the midfield. I can see why we thought that he could play as a central midfielder.

Shame that it turned the way it did because of his poor discipline and injury troubles. Still only 27.

He had the ability to run with the ball and he certainly had the attitude to win it although he never managed to get the stamina needed to do that for the entire 90 minute. However while a big part was due to misfortune and his indiscipline we did try to convert him into a player he wasnt

 

[Rob Bowman]

He played more games than Carrick hence the greater no of passes, see the per 90 min metric:

http://www.squawka.com/comparison-m...erceptions/blocks/tackles_won/yellow_cards#90

Much better.

Thank you!!

And I for one still want him!!

 

[VanGaalEra]

Hoping this one is done by Monday, or we at least know it's us for sure!