Morgan Schneiderlin | BBC: Morgan Schneiderlin is currently having a medical at Manchester United.

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Then how about waiting to see what happens? If reports are believed we are still in for him and will most likely get him. This place is unbearable atm. Ppl in the Schweinsteiger thread complaining about his signature as though he wasn't one of the best players around and bitching in this very thread about the potential mistake from us not going for Schneiderlin when everything indicates that we are actually on the verge of signing him.

I'm rather calm about it all, it's not your first transfer window here so you know that people tend to get overdramatic, no?
 
Judging by some posts here you would think he is the reincarnation of Vieira, Makelele and Roy fecking Keane all in one.
Not to mention like 5-6 clubs are all over him so we should sort it out like in hours. :lol:
 
Then how about waiting to see what happens? If reports are believed we are still in for him and will most likely get him. This place is unbearable atm. Ppl in the Schweinsteiger thread complaining about his signature as though he wasn't one of the best players around and bitching in this very thread about the potential mistake from us not going for Schneiderlin when everything indicates that we are actually on the verge of signing him.

Pretty much this, i'm not getting all the doom and gloom in here. Looks like we're gonna sign this lad.
 
I'm rather calm about it all, it's not your first transfer window here so you know that people tend to get overdramatic, no?

No problem with being overdramatic. But every year it's sth different ppl have to moan about. To moan right now seems rather strange though with all the transfers we have done. Also transfers that actually adress the right positions.
 
Would Koeman be willing to sell to his arch-nemesis?

The man he still respects but just doesn't speak to anymore? Ofcourse Southampton would sell us Schneiderlin, the clubs aren't on bad terms and Koeman wouldn't (couldn't?) block a move.
 
Pretty much this, i'm not getting all the doom and gloom in here. Looks like we're gonna sign this lad.
3 years ago Schneiderlin was playing in the Championship. About that time Schweinsteiger was entering a treble winning season. Yet people are doubtful about the latter labeling him too old, while the former will bring the promised land...
 
No problem with being overdramatic. But every year it's sth different ppl have to moan about. To moan right now seems rather strange though with all the transfers we have done. Also transfers that actually adress the right positions.

Aye, got to agree that whining about Schweinsteiger seems pretty odd but I suppose that some reports about Arsenal/City being possible destinations for Schneiderlin (Arsenal rumours been there for a long time, City's being mentioned now due to Delph's refusal and Schneiderlin counts as a homegrown player) have provoked such reaction.
 
Aye, got to agree that whining about Schweinsteiger seems pretty odd but I suppose that some reports about Arsenal/City being possible destinations for Schneiderlin (Arsenal rumours been there for a long time, City's being mentioned now due to Delph's refusal and Schneiderlin counts as a homegrown player) have provoked such reaction.

Yeah tbh if Schneiderlin decides to join City he's a moron that I wouldn't want here anyway. I think though that we are comfortably in the pole position and we should be as well.
 
3 years ago Schneiderlin was playing in the Championship. About that time Schweinsteiger was entering a treble winning season. Yet people are doubtful about the latter labeling him too old, while the former will bring the promised land...

It's funny the guys calling people out for being dramatic are being even more so.
 
3 years ago Schneiderlin was playing in the Championship. About that time Schweinsteiger was entering a treble winning season. Yet people are doubtful about the latter labeling him too old, while the former will bring the promised land...

3 years ago RVP was the best striker in the world. Now he's being ushered out the back door to Fenerbache.

3 years is a long time in football.
 
The panic in here.

Southampton aren't a team in a position where they'd need to sell a key player before they had already brought in a replacement. They can also afford to hold out for a better offer for the same reason. If we are interested, that is why nothing has happened yet and why from Southampton's point of view nothing has to happen for another month or so.

I'm not 100% sure on him anyway. Teams keep signing players from Southampton but they've always seemed like a good unit and well run team/club to me. I wouldn't say any of their players stand out as it being obvious they belong at a top club. Most of the ones who've tried have at best underwhelmed.
 
3 years ago RVP was the best striker in the world. Now he's being ushered out the back door to Fenerbache.

3 years is a long time in football.
And has Schneiderlin established himself as a top top player that it's absolutely crucial that we won't miss out on?

Even if we don't buy anyone else in midfield this window I think we're set for the next season.

Schweinsteiger, Mata, Herrera, Carrick, Fellaini, AdM, Blind, even Perreira should possibly be given some game time. This is for 3 positions.
 
And has Schneiderlin established himself as a top top player that it's absolutely crucial that we won't miss out on?

He's a very good player, at a great age with scope for improvement, who would bring something to the team that we've been missing for absolutely years.
 
He's a very good player, at a great age with scope for improvement, who would bring something to the team that we've been missing for absolutely years.
And we have just bought one of the best midfielders in the modern game, with 2 investments in midfield last year in Herrera and Blind and Pereira, who LvG seems to like coming through the ranks. Is he necessary at this time?
 
I've read that we are no longer interested in him after signing Schweinsteiger and that the club thinks he is overpriced. This is a shame because I think he's very different to Schweinsteiger and would bring something to central midfield which we don't currently have.
 
And has Schneiderlin established himself as a top top player that it's absolutely crucial that we won't miss out on?

Even if we don't buy anyone else in midfield this window I think we're set for the next season.

Schweinsteiger, Mata, Herrera, Carrick, Fellaini, AdM, Blind, even Perreira should possibly be given some game time. This is for 3 positions.
I'd say he's the quintessential Utd signing. Proven himself for three years to be a good quality Premier league player with his best years ahead of him and on the cusp of bigger and better things. It really is a no-brainer, and him, Schweinsteiger and Herrera as a midfield unit will really have it all. Plus, his signing would free up Herrera to bomb further forward and do what he does best.
 
I've read that we are no longer interested in him after signing Schweinsteiger and that the club thinks he is overpriced. This is a shame because I think he's very different to Schweinsteiger and would bring something to central midfield which we don't currently have.

Could be true but that came from Ian Herbert, who said on Thursday that he expected Schweinsteiger to stay at Bayern.
 
And we have just bought one of the best midfielders in the modern game, with 2 investments in midfield last year in Herrera and Blind and Pereira, who LvG seems to like coming through the ranks. Is he necessary at this time?

Imo yes he his.
 
I also still think we need Schneiderlin and would love to have him also. Of course we also still need another striker now that RVP is gone, probably another central defender and a GK if DDG bails to Madrid.
 
I'd say he's the quintessential Utd signing. Proven himself for three years to be a good quality Premier league player with his best years ahead of him and on the cusp of bigger and better things. It really is a no-brainer, and him, Schweinsteiger and Herrera as a midfield unit will really have it all. Plus, his signing would free up Herrera to bomb further forward and do what he does best.
A bit over the top, especially considering the second sentence.

If Soton really want 30m for him, do you honestly believe that we can't find better players on the market? That's over 40m euros.

Imo yes he his.

Why? For couple of good seasons at Soton?
A lot are worried for Schweinsteiger injury record, yet Schneiderlin last year played 1 game more than him...
 
A bit over the top, especially considering the second sentence.

If Soton really want 30m for him, do you honestly believe that we can't find better players on the market? That's over 40m euros.

That's what Juve wants for Vidal apparently. Just saying.
 
Schneiderlin's a very good player, but hardly worth having a panic attack over. He's a level below an in-form Carrick, who is also a level below an in-form Schweinsteiger, despite likely costing half as much as Schneiderlin. Southampton have no need to sell him, and for the first time in a couple of years, we aren't desperate and don't need to throw shit against a wall until something sticks.
 
A bit over the top, especially considering the second sentence.

If Soton really want 30m for him, do you honestly believe that we can't find better players on the market? That's over 40m euros.
I wouldn't say so. Look at the bulk of signings we made under Fergie. For example: Pallister, Ince, Keane, Cole, Yorke, and latterly Valencia. All followed the same sort of pattern of young, hungry and proven players who were ready for the step up. Schneiderlin follows that same M.O. to an absolute tee...
 
People at SkySports know we're still interested. Don't forget what Louie said not long ago, we'll be signing players throughout two months of a window. One big process and all the good jazz with time to negotiate the prices but also making decision who will go.

If Morgan will join while we're still on tour it won't be a big tragedy while this week was extremely busy enough with Darmian and Basti.
 
I don't think they are in direct competition. Besides, Fellaini is a pretty good option and LVG is not going to sell him any time soon. Carrick is a better #6 and Bastian and Herrera are better #8's. Bastian is also a pretty good #6 if it's required. You then add Felliani into the mix and we have a good bunch of CM's That's not even adding the likes of Mata, Bllind and even Rooney who can all do the job competently in case of big injury crisis. Not saying I don't want him but I no longer see a pressing need for him.

This could be Carrick's last season. He's on a year rolling contract and he'll be 35 next summer. BS is going to be 31 in August, he'll bring immediate quality to the team but MS is the longterm solution we're going to be looking for pretty soon anyway. We need to sign him
 
I always find this gross overreacting a bit odd. He's a 25 years old regular at Soton. It's not like we're missing on Ronaldinho here...
That's a big assumption about what I mean. Schneiderlin will never reach the level of Makelele but he's really good at what he does, breaking up play and providing energy to the midfield and we really need someone like that. He's a good player but his importance for us is greater because of our need for that type of player.
 
I wouldn't say so. Look at the bulk of signings we made under Fergie. For example: Pallister, Ince, Keane, Cole, Yorke, and latterly Valencia. All followed the same sort of pattern of young, hungry and proven players who were ready for the step up. Schneiderlin follows that same M.O. to an absolute tee...
Keane came for a record fee, Yorke/Cole as well, Pallister as well for a defender.

Cruyff, Kleberson, Djemba X2, Smith, Tosic, etc were also young and hungry...

Schneiderlin was never in the same league of Keane, Ince, Pallister, Cole or Yorke.

That's a big assumption about what I mean. Schneiderlin will never reach the level of Makelele but he's really good at what he does, breaking up play and providing energy to the midfield and we really need someone like that. He's a good player but his importance for us is greater because of our need for that type of player.

We bought Fellaini for that, and still haven't flocked him.
 
It's interesting the way that the Clyne/Darmian and Schneiderlin/Schweinsteiger stories developed.

In both cases we were linked with the Southampton player for a long time with the British media especially insistent that they were priority targets for us. And in both cases our actual target was a foreign player whom we signed very quickly after foreign sources broke the story.

Except we actually made a bid for Schneiderlin
 
I wouldn't say so. Look at the bulk of signings we made under Fergie. For example: Pallister, Ince, Keane, Cole, Yorke, and latterly Valencia. All followed the same sort of pattern of young, hungry and proven players who were ready for the step up. Schneiderlin follows that same M.O. to an absolute tee...

Funny how far back in time you travelled to come up with young and hungry players that we signed that actually worked out. You forgot Ronaldo though who was probably the last one that was a real success.
 
Funny how far back in time you travelled to come up with young and hungry players that we signed that actually worked out. You forgot Ronaldo though who was probably the last one that was a real success.

Carrick
 
Keane came for a record fee, Yorke/Cole as well, Pallister as well for a defender.

Cruyff, Kleberson, Djemba X2, Smith, Tosic, etc were also young and hungry...

Schneiderlin was never in the same league of Keane, Ince, Pallister, Cole or Yorke.



We bought Fellaini for that, and still haven't flocked him.
You're missing my point. They came after a period in which they proved themselves as quality players in their own right with their best years ahead of them. Exactly the same position which Schneiderlin is in.

Are there better players around in his position? Yes. Are these players a) attainable? and b) considerably better than Schneiderlin? I'd say no. It just makes too much sense for us not to be in for him
 
Funny how far back in time you travelled to come up with young and hungry players that we signed that actually worked out. You forgot Ronaldo though who was probably the last one that was a real success.
I purposely ignored Ronaldo because my exact point was regarding Premier league players. Up until the early to mid 2000s, our bread and butter in terms of transfer dealings was Premier league players. Yes, in the last decade of Fergie's tenure, we increasingly started to cover continental Europe, but nevertheless, we still had more of a focus on the homegrown market than an international one. It's only really been the last 6-7 years with the increasingly globalised nature of the sport, that we casted our net further a afield.
 
I purposely ignored Ronaldo because my exact point was regarding Premier league players. Up until the early to mid 2000s, our bread and butter in terms of transfer dealings was Premier league players. Yes, in the last decade of Fergie's tenure, we increasingly started to cover continental Europe, but nevertheless, we still had more of a focus on the homegrown market than an international one. It's only really been the last 6-7 years with the increasingly globalised nature of the sport, that we casted our net further a afield.

Nothing to disagree then.
 
You're missing my point. They came after a period in which they proved themselves as quality players in their own right with their best years ahead of them. Exactly the same position which Schneiderlin is in.

Are there better players around in his position? Yes. Are these players a) attainable? and b) considerably better than Schneiderlin? I'd say no. It just makes too much sense for us not to be in for him

I think Vidal is attainable at that price, yes. And yes he is considerably better than Schneiderlin at pretty much everything.

I purposely ignored Ronaldo because my exact point was regarding Premier league players. Up until the early to mid 2000s, our bread and butter in terms of transfer dealings was Premier league players. Yes, in the last decade of Fergie's tenure, we increasingly started to cover continental Europe, but nevertheless, we still had more of a focus on the homegrown market than an international one. It's only really been the last 6-7 years with the increasingly globalised nature of the sport, that we casted our net further a afield.
There is a reason for this. Continental players comes cheaper for the same quality.
 
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