Red Dreams
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well exactly.
Then how about waiting to see what happens? If reports are believed we are still in for him and will most likely get him. This place is unbearable atm. Ppl in the Schweinsteiger thread complaining about his signature as though he wasn't one of the best players around and bitching in this very thread about the potential mistake from us not going for Schneiderlin when everything indicates that we are actually on the verge of signing him.
Not to mention like 5-6 clubs are all over him so we should sort it out like in hours.Judging by some posts here you would think he is the reincarnation of Vieira, Makelele and Roy fecking Keane all in one.
Then how about waiting to see what happens? If reports are believed we are still in for him and will most likely get him. This place is unbearable atm. Ppl in the Schweinsteiger thread complaining about his signature as though he wasn't one of the best players around and bitching in this very thread about the potential mistake from us not going for Schneiderlin when everything indicates that we are actually on the verge of signing him.
I'm rather calm about it all, it's not your first transfer window here so you know that people tend to get overdramatic, no?
Would Koeman be willing to sell to his arch-nemesis?
Would Koeman be willing to sell to his arch-nemesis?
Would Koeman be willing to sell to his arch-nemesis?
3 years ago Schneiderlin was playing in the Championship. About that time Schweinsteiger was entering a treble winning season. Yet people are doubtful about the latter labeling him too old, while the former will bring the promised land...Pretty much this, i'm not getting all the doom and gloom in here. Looks like we're gonna sign this lad.
No problem with being overdramatic. But every year it's sth different ppl have to moan about. To moan right now seems rather strange though with all the transfers we have done. Also transfers that actually adress the right positions.
Aye, got to agree that whining about Schweinsteiger seems pretty odd but I suppose that some reports about Arsenal/City being possible destinations for Schneiderlin (Arsenal rumours been there for a long time, City's being mentioned now due to Delph's refusal and Schneiderlin counts as a homegrown player) have provoked such reaction.
3 years ago Schneiderlin was playing in the Championship. About that time Schweinsteiger was entering a treble winning season. Yet people are doubtful about the latter labeling him too old, while the former will bring the promised land...
Why is that? Just observation.It's funny the guys calling people out for being dramatic are being even more so.
3 years ago Schneiderlin was playing in the Championship. About that time Schweinsteiger was entering a treble winning season. Yet people are doubtful about the latter labeling him too old, while the former will bring the promised land...
And has Schneiderlin established himself as a top top player that it's absolutely crucial that we won't miss out on?3 years ago RVP was the best striker in the world. Now he's being ushered out the back door to Fenerbache.
3 years is a long time in football.
And has Schneiderlin established himself as a top top player that it's absolutely crucial that we won't miss out on?
And we have just bought one of the best midfielders in the modern game, with 2 investments in midfield last year in Herrera and Blind and Pereira, who LvG seems to like coming through the ranks. Is he necessary at this time?He's a very good player, at a great age with scope for improvement, who would bring something to the team that we've been missing for absolutely years.
I'd say he's the quintessential Utd signing. Proven himself for three years to be a good quality Premier league player with his best years ahead of him and on the cusp of bigger and better things. It really is a no-brainer, and him, Schweinsteiger and Herrera as a midfield unit will really have it all. Plus, his signing would free up Herrera to bomb further forward and do what he does best.And has Schneiderlin established himself as a top top player that it's absolutely crucial that we won't miss out on?
Even if we don't buy anyone else in midfield this window I think we're set for the next season.
Schweinsteiger, Mata, Herrera, Carrick, Fellaini, AdM, Blind, even Perreira should possibly be given some game time. This is for 3 positions.
I've read that we are no longer interested in him after signing Schweinsteiger and that the club thinks he is overpriced. This is a shame because I think he's very different to Schweinsteiger and would bring something to central midfield which we don't currently have.
And we have just bought one of the best midfielders in the modern game, with 2 investments in midfield last year in Herrera and Blind and Pereira, who LvG seems to like coming through the ranks. Is he necessary at this time?
A bit over the top, especially considering the second sentence.I'd say he's the quintessential Utd signing. Proven himself for three years to be a good quality Premier league player with his best years ahead of him and on the cusp of bigger and better things. It really is a no-brainer, and him, Schweinsteiger and Herrera as a midfield unit will really have it all. Plus, his signing would free up Herrera to bomb further forward and do what he does best.
Imo yes he his.
A bit over the top, especially considering the second sentence.
If Soton really want 30m for him, do you honestly believe that we can't find better players on the market? That's over 40m euros.
I wouldn't say so. Look at the bulk of signings we made under Fergie. For example: Pallister, Ince, Keane, Cole, Yorke, and latterly Valencia. All followed the same sort of pattern of young, hungry and proven players who were ready for the step up. Schneiderlin follows that same M.O. to an absolute tee...A bit over the top, especially considering the second sentence.
If Soton really want 30m for him, do you honestly believe that we can't find better players on the market? That's over 40m euros.
I don't think they are in direct competition. Besides, Fellaini is a pretty good option and LVG is not going to sell him any time soon. Carrick is a better #6 and Bastian and Herrera are better #8's. Bastian is also a pretty good #6 if it's required. You then add Felliani into the mix and we have a good bunch of CM's That's not even adding the likes of Mata, Bllind and even Rooney who can all do the job competently in case of big injury crisis. Not saying I don't want him but I no longer see a pressing need for him.
That's a big assumption about what I mean. Schneiderlin will never reach the level of Makelele but he's really good at what he does, breaking up play and providing energy to the midfield and we really need someone like that. He's a good player but his importance for us is greater because of our need for that type of player.I always find this gross overreacting a bit odd. He's a 25 years old regular at Soton. It's not like we're missing on Ronaldinho here...
Keane came for a record fee, Yorke/Cole as well, Pallister as well for a defender.I wouldn't say so. Look at the bulk of signings we made under Fergie. For example: Pallister, Ince, Keane, Cole, Yorke, and latterly Valencia. All followed the same sort of pattern of young, hungry and proven players who were ready for the step up. Schneiderlin follows that same M.O. to an absolute tee...
That's a big assumption about what I mean. Schneiderlin will never reach the level of Makelele but he's really good at what he does, breaking up play and providing energy to the midfield and we really need someone like that. He's a good player but his importance for us is greater because of our need for that type of player.
It's interesting the way that the Clyne/Darmian and Schneiderlin/Schweinsteiger stories developed.
In both cases we were linked with the Southampton player for a long time with the British media especially insistent that they were priority targets for us. And in both cases our actual target was a foreign player whom we signed very quickly after foreign sources broke the story.
I wouldn't say so. Look at the bulk of signings we made under Fergie. For example: Pallister, Ince, Keane, Cole, Yorke, and latterly Valencia. All followed the same sort of pattern of young, hungry and proven players who were ready for the step up. Schneiderlin follows that same M.O. to an absolute tee...
Funny how far back in time you travelled to come up with young and hungry players that we signed that actually worked out. You forgot Ronaldo though who was probably the last one that was a real success.
You're missing my point. They came after a period in which they proved themselves as quality players in their own right with their best years ahead of them. Exactly the same position which Schneiderlin is in.Keane came for a record fee, Yorke/Cole as well, Pallister as well for a defender.
Cruyff, Kleberson, Djemba X2, Smith, Tosic, etc were also young and hungry...
Schneiderlin was never in the same league of Keane, Ince, Pallister, Cole or Yorke.
We bought Fellaini for that, and still haven't flocked him.
I purposely ignored Ronaldo because my exact point was regarding Premier league players. Up until the early to mid 2000s, our bread and butter in terms of transfer dealings was Premier league players. Yes, in the last decade of Fergie's tenure, we increasingly started to cover continental Europe, but nevertheless, we still had more of a focus on the homegrown market than an international one. It's only really been the last 6-7 years with the increasingly globalised nature of the sport, that we casted our net further a afield.Funny how far back in time you travelled to come up with young and hungry players that we signed that actually worked out. You forgot Ronaldo though who was probably the last one that was a real success.
I purposely ignored Ronaldo because my exact point was regarding Premier league players. Up until the early to mid 2000s, our bread and butter in terms of transfer dealings was Premier league players. Yes, in the last decade of Fergie's tenure, we increasingly started to cover continental Europe, but nevertheless, we still had more of a focus on the homegrown market than an international one. It's only really been the last 6-7 years with the increasingly globalised nature of the sport, that we casted our net further a afield.
You're missing my point. They came after a period in which they proved themselves as quality players in their own right with their best years ahead of them. Exactly the same position which Schneiderlin is in.
Are there better players around in his position? Yes. Are these players a) attainable? and b) considerably better than Schneiderlin? I'd say no. It just makes too much sense for us not to be in for him
There is a reason for this. Continental players comes cheaper for the same quality.I purposely ignored Ronaldo because my exact point was regarding Premier league players. Up until the early to mid 2000s, our bread and butter in terms of transfer dealings was Premier league players. Yes, in the last decade of Fergie's tenure, we increasingly started to cover continental Europe, but nevertheless, we still had more of a focus on the homegrown market than an international one. It's only really been the last 6-7 years with the increasingly globalised nature of the sport, that we casted our net further a afield.