That was a few weeks ago though and maybe priorities have changed now. Or maybe he's just someone we were only interested in for a certain price. Obviously I hope I'm wrong, but this whole deal has seemed odd to me for the last while.
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No they were deep like he was. He hasnt been the single defensive minded midfielder like Carrick is for us, he's done a job share
I'm not confused I'm solely talking about their best roles, in my opinion and because of what they did in the last 5 years, it's the other around, now they can both play where you want them you play, I just don't think that you exploit their qualities efficiently.
But for all I know maybe Van gaal thinks like you.
Fair enough.
They may not be in direct competition for the same position but adding Schneiderlin to our midfield will affect Fellaini's place in the team. The two Sch's together would require a more attacking midfielder/passer in front of them; same if we use Carrick and Schneiderlin the midfield.
Scheinderlin is now in full muppet territorty. A midfielder is no longer the priority. I can't see this happening until we secure a CB, goalkeeper and possibly a striker.
You're confused because you clearly think I'm saying use him as an attacking midfielder.
But thats not the case, I just said that he'd need to take the spot of Ander or Fellaini. The way he plays from that spot can be different he just needs the freedom they are given by the defensive midfielder, in their case Carrick. He doesnt need to go up front and be a target like Fellaini and he doesn't have to link up and get in the box like Ander, but he'll have the freedom to do that if he wants. He would also have the freedom to come and play from behind the halfwayline like Ander has done at times.
To fit in the system, when we dont have the ball he would have to press like Ander and Fellaini yes. But when we have the ball he can have the game in front of him just like you said and pick out players with his controlling passing.
If he was in Carrick's role he'd need to protect the back four alone - something he's always had help with from other players in cm around him, and would never be released to go forward and create or score goals, and as hes better at that than any of our other midfielders that would be a waste. He wouldnt do a first class job defensively and he wouldnt do a first class job going forward either, it'd be closer to when we put Scholes as the deepest midfielder in his last period at United. The passing is nice but ultimately you come up short both defensively and in attack. And he can play the same passing game from the side of a defensive midfielder
How would you know that? You don't trust the English media as you went to great lengths to prove they are unreliable but are coming to a conclusion that we are not interested in Schneiderlin because it goes against what is being said in the media?
Also City made a bid for Sterling about 3 weeks back and had not gone back in with another offer until today, did that mean they were no longer interested?
No I don't, I said that because you mentioned is goal contribution.
And by the way carrick do not play deeper than Schweinsteger.
Like I said in that comment, if we wanted him, he would be here. Just like Depay, Darmian and Schweinsteiger.
We made the bid which was confirmed by Koeman, and since then nothing concrete has come out; hence, why I believe we're not interested.
Who gives a sh*t about City? They're nothing like us when it comes to transfers.
You're confused again. Its not about being deeper, its about being expected to track runners from midfield and defend the space around the edge of the box. Carrick has all that expectation on him, or Blind when he plays. Schweinsteiger has always done the job in a 2 when playing as a cm. He's had help and usually from someone more suited to it than he is
Its almost certain Clasie will join Southampton to replace Schneiderlin.
How exactly are we when it comes to transfers?
From what we have read, the Darmian negotiations went on for weeks before we closed the deal. Just because we did not hear about it months back does not make it any different to how the Schneiderlin transfer is being conducted.
Man, you tell me that I'm confused but it seems that unlike me at no point you seem to consider that we might slightly change the organization of the midfield.
By using a defensive box to box like Schneiderlin, you divide the defensive tasks between him and Carrick or Schweinsteiger, that's what I have in mind, nothing else, at no point I consider that we will just put the new players in the 'old' players roles without any tweaks.
If that makes me confused then fair enough, I'm confused.
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I understand that you see Carrick as our first wall infront of the defense and you consider that Schneiderlin is very potent defensively and could shield the defense like Carrick does, and you are right.
But I see something else, we have Schweinsteiger one of the best deep lying playmaker in the world, he isn't as good defensively as Carrick but he shares a lot more of things with him than Schneiderlin does, they are both great at controlling and orienting the game, they both have a great passing range and they are both good at anticipating the game.
Schneiderlin is an all action player, he doesn't have the passing range, the positioning or the tactical leadership of Carrick, but he is mobile, athletic, comfortable in tight space, aggressive and run well with the ball, on top of being very sound defensively.
Playing Schneiderlin as a box to box, allow you to use all his attributes at once but also compensate Schweinsteiger 'deficiencies' by giving him a defensive support.
In my opinion if you use them the other way around you limit both players.
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What if Clasie is joining Southampton to add more depth into their squad instead of replacing Schneiderlin who is going nowhere? Possible too you know
Really doubt that's the case. Maybe a 5% chance of that
They need more eggs in their HG basket. They're poor showing in this window will cost Manuel his job.
Really hoping we close this soon and no one poaches him from under our eyes! Things have been so perfect for us in the transfer window, just worried something bad is about to happen 
Koemon said in his press conference that they were looking at Clasie as a replacement for Schneiderlin if he left.
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Exactly.
I'd be surprised if what LvG described as a very unbalanced midfield would be considered solved by one Schweinsteiger signing.
More likely we'll sign one more. I'd like to think it's Schneiderlin, because he's what we need.
More likely we'll sign one more. I'd like to think it's Schneiderlin, because he's what we need.
Independent saying we're not after him now, either been briefed or going for the outside guess.
Well that's extremely shit.
Bugger, hopefully this is like the Shaw stuff. Pretty sure Jackson said something similar then we signed Shaw the next few days
Well we've signed Schweiny, who is now a sort of insurance policy. We can now wait and watch over what develops in the market: Will Pogba be available? Will Verratti be offered for Di Maria? ...etc.
I think we can wait and watch a bit. Schneidy doesn't necessarily have to be signed right away.
I think we can wait and watch a bit. Schneidy doesn't necessarily have to be signed right away.
No need to worry. Just sounds like an opinion. "Manchester United are not now thought to be pursuing Southampton midfielder Morgan Schneiderlin"
One line from yesterday's article. While most the other journos and sky sports said the opposite.
There is no basis for that, they are just speculating.
Morgan has been left out of the squad for the past 2 games because the deal is just pending and waiting for the clasie deal to be finalised.
Have some faith, we needed 2 midfielders.
Morgan has been left out of the squad for the past 2 games because the deal is just pending and waiting for the clasie deal to be finalised.
Have some faith, we needed 2 midfielders.
They seem to be revealing quite a bit of information about their supposed targets, particularly Sterling. Whereas, it's quite clear we're the opposite as we've kept the journalists clueless with regards to our targets.
I don't buy it either. Giggs said a few weeks ago that we're going to strengthen (or get) a spine for the team. One player, no matter how good, can't do that on his own. I hope we're still in for him.
A mistake if true. Schneiderlin is only going to get better and would have years at the club. Really hoping it's still on.
Believe Sky and the rest over those jokers. Was only the other day they reported we were closing in.
The Muppet slayer strikes again.
Big mistake if we don't sign him, hope it's not true
Not pursuing Morgan Schneiderlin now would be a grossly short-sighted mistake. Not only is Schneiderlin the future, he could learn a lot next season working with both Carrick and Schweinsteiger. Arsenal or Spurs will snap him up now and I for one will be totally pissed-off!
And then how do you go from there to being sure that we are longer interested?
If he's kept waiting by us and then Arsenal or City come in for him then he may end up rejecting us for messing him around like that
"I don't think we're getting him as we're not very interested. "
It's an opinion to construct a theory. I never said I was sure.
Like I said, signing Schweiny allows us to take that gamble
http://mufclatest.com/manchester-united-about-to-swoop-in-for-morgan-schneiderlin/?
Manchester United are still interested in signing Southampton’s French midfielder Morgan Schneiderlin this summer. The past 24 hours has been great for Manchester United supporters who have seen Italian right-back Matteo Darmian sign for the club and a deal to bring Bastian Schweinsteiger to the club from Bayern Munich. Morgan Schneiderlin is a player that has been long linked to Manchester United with a bid of £20 million already made and rejected.
Schneiderlin is a player that United need, not only will he add strength in-depth to the squad, but he can be a pillar for the club, fortifying the defensive midfield position, with Daley Blind a likely back-up player, leaving Michael Carrick and Schweinsteiger to play further up the pitch, whether together, which may not be likely, or in rotation. The likes of Juan Mata and Ander Herrera could occupy a central attacking midfield role, leaving a striker and two wingers to complete the lineup.
The French midfielder travelled to Austria with Southampton, failing to play in a friendly against Red Bull Leipzig in which Southampton losing 5-4 on Wednesday. On Saturday, Southampton participated in the Audi Quattro Cup in Salzburg playing Valencia in their first 45 minute match, losing 1-0, again with Schneiderlin not playing any part in the match. A third place play-off would be the clubs third match of their pre-season campaign against hosts Red Bull Salzburg, losing 2-0, completing a hat-trick of defeats, all without Morgan Schneiderlin taking part.
Schneiderlin is still a target for Manchester United and late last week the club were still confident of securing the player ahead of their departure for Seattle on Monday, where they play their first pre-season fixture this summer. Sky Sports report that United are likely to try and sign the Frenchman for around £25 million this summer, which would be a reasonable fee for the player, who would no doubt strengthen the clubs squad this summer. With the fact that United seem to have started their transfer business with a bang, many expect great things to happen this summer.
Manchester United are still interested in signing Southampton’s French midfielder Morgan Schneiderlin this summer. The past 24 hours has been great for Manchester United supporters who have seen Italian right-back Matteo Darmian sign for the club and a deal to bring Bastian Schweinsteiger to the club from Bayern Munich. Morgan Schneiderlin is a player that has been long linked to Manchester United with a bid of £20 million already made and rejected.
Schneiderlin is a player that United need, not only will he add strength in-depth to the squad, but he can be a pillar for the club, fortifying the defensive midfield position, with Daley Blind a likely back-up player, leaving Michael Carrick and Schweinsteiger to play further up the pitch, whether together, which may not be likely, or in rotation. The likes of Juan Mata and Ander Herrera could occupy a central attacking midfield role, leaving a striker and two wingers to complete the lineup.
The French midfielder travelled to Austria with Southampton, failing to play in a friendly against Red Bull Leipzig in which Southampton losing 5-4 on Wednesday. On Saturday, Southampton participated in the Audi Quattro Cup in Salzburg playing Valencia in their first 45 minute match, losing 1-0, again with Schneiderlin not playing any part in the match. A third place play-off would be the clubs third match of their pre-season campaign against hosts Red Bull Salzburg, losing 2-0, completing a hat-trick of defeats, all without Morgan Schneiderlin taking part.
Schneiderlin is still a target for Manchester United and late last week the club were still confident of securing the player ahead of their departure for Seattle on Monday, where they play their first pre-season fixture this summer. Sky Sports report that United are likely to try and sign the Frenchman for around £25 million this summer, which would be a reasonable fee for the player, who would no doubt strengthen the clubs squad this summer. With the fact that United seem to have started their transfer business with a bang, many expect great things to happen this summer.
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