My one nagging worry is that LvG will think Schweinsteiger is enough for one season while he waits to see how his boy Strootman recovers.
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The Stroot has sailed!
Schneiderlin is 5 years younger than Schweinsteiger and nowhere near the same class.
If it was the case the club wouldn't have made an offer for Schneiderlin.
It's exactly opposite but I believe Schweini could be shifted to deep playmaking role and Schneidy's very comfortable as b2b. Fellaini is unique player, in fact irreplacable.. Witch Schneiderlin as 6 we are going to play wonderful dynamic football again. Witch Schweinsteiger it's a big question where he eventually fits for VG
Opposite? Schneiderlin will be Fellaini numerical replacement with Herrera playing higher.
Huh?
re the Schneiderlin saga, it wouldn't be the first time two clubs have pushed negotations of a transfer fee close to the end of the window and it won't be the last. If it wasn't for the relentless scrutiny of this thread and online media in general, nobody would give a toss about the dates of the various offers being made. It's certainly a terrible way to decide whether or not a manger really wants to sign the player concerned.
I'm baffled by this post!
Different types of players, but Schneiderlin is the type we need most & he can be developed into a better player with us - that's what we do..
urm ... errr ..... actually ..... now it's confirmed on for Monday next week ....
Honestly, tell me mate, how do you know what's going on!
Unless we made a low offer knowing it would be rejected as a tactic to push Schweinsteiger into making his mind up. I hope not as I think it would be ridiculous, but these recent transfer summers have seen all kinds of things that I wouldn't have expected to be normal practice.
Really not the way to show a player "definitely want them" unless the player knows the club are doing this on purpose to drive down the fee. All very strange.
Just Southampton PR games. Nothing to see here folks.
when did Fellaini play as no6 for us last season? he was used as no10-ish where he's the most useful by far, even you must see that. Schneiderlin would be replacement for Carrick while capable of playing with him in the side too.
We need Schneiderlin much more than Steiger that's almost holly fact, I don't think you've seen them play enough games to throw such statements if you think otherwise. Schneiderlin is almost like more defensive and better version of Strootman.. I agree with Herrera playing higher though
You didn't understood what I said, I mean that:
Schneiderlin--Herrera
----Schweinsteiger
And Schneiderlin isn't a n°6, he is a box to box, a sort of Strootman.
sorry but you should be more clear then, I was never counting with both players, still think it's either one or another even they are different players Van Gaal may want to convert Sweinsteigger more if we are interested at all but we will see, we must wait on it. Schneiderlin sit back a lot last season and he proved he can paly as no6 when he played without Wanyama, he's perfect player to break up play and set up counterattacks..
Schneiderlin
Herrera - DiMaría
is my personal dream, we are not far away from it I guess unlike from signing both players..
I agree with all that but the only thing I don't get is if we know a deal can be done then why wait? The most ideal scenario would be to have signed Scheiderlin this week and him go on tour with us and have his full preseason here.
This reminds me a lot of us signing Blind last summer, and I'm still not entirely sure why we waited until the last possible second to do that.
must have skipped that, sorry about that.. anyway it's very far away to acquire both I guess so I think the predicting btoh players in the lineup is kinda waste of time I feel. Both are strong midfielders with different style and abilities but for someone like Van Gaal it can be enough..
To try and save a few million quid? It seems like feck all, in the context of transfer fees but it's still a lot of money. Could add 20-40k to the weekly salary we can offer Schweinsteiger, for example.
This is abit depressing. So what happened to the United rep that was sent to the South Coast? Has he arrived yet?
Which makes perfect sense if you know it's a one horse race.
My only explanation is that we're trying to move into the 21st century by becoming sustainability warriors.
I can just picture Woody trying to reach the South Coast by bicycle and then having to make the return journey each time another iteration of the negotiation process is made
I know but sadly, it seems as if we've gone off the boil with trying to sign Schneiderlin. Maybe we used the Schneiderlin bid, to put pressure on Schweinsteiger to join us.
I'm baffled by all Schweinsteiger is too old stuff. At the end he's established player who only last year had one more serious injury otherwise I don't think he can be called injury prone.
Schneiderlin is 5 years younger. If we go by the same logic and we have 10 years off him, while we can get 5 good from Schweinsteiger I'd happily take the latter.
Schneiderlin has the potential and can become better, but I pretty much doubt he can be good as Schweinsteiger(I know they are different players). I think a midfield of Herrera/Schweinsteiger/Mata(or Carrick/Blind if it needs to be more defensive) is much better now than whatever formation we use Schneiderlin in.
Yes Schweinsteiger doesn't have 10 years ahead of him, but we can bring another midfielder in after 3-4 I don't see the issue in there.
Its clear we are not pursuing Schneiderli,and i guess we are making a major blunder by not doing that.
It's looking increasingly like this. If we were truly keen, he'd have been here by now.
If we miss out on Schneiderlin, whether we land Schweiny or not, Louis is an idiot.
There, I said it.
There, I said it.
It LvG's obsession with German/Bayern players costs us Schneiderlin then I'll lose a lot of faith in him (and I don't have unconditional faith in him anyway).
We will get him. It's just taking time.
Hey fellas, it is Schneiderlin not Zidane.
Could it be we are looking to tie up Bastian first before sealing the Schneiderlin deal? At least I would like to think so. Knowing us, we seem incapable of doing two things at a time
Schweinsteiger is at an age where he's not a long term threat to certain young midfielders coming though the youth set up. I would like us to buy both but we have Pereira to consider and other young midfielders. I think LVG and the club are tempted by Schweinsteigers experience and personality. His winning mentality could rub off on these players. It's very difficult because we sign Schneiderlin and suddenly we've an awful lot of central midfielders even when playing 3 in midfield. Off the top of my head: Carrick, Schweinsteiger (perhaps), Schneiderlin (perhaps), Herrera, Mata, Fellaini, Blind, Di Maria. So I think we'll go on the tour and give some of these kids a chance and depending on how they handle it - we may then go for Schneiderlin. It's a risk but if you sign too many too soon, it can dishearten the kids who LVG will want to give chances too.
The issue for many is he's 30, thus his legs will drop off during the season, as we all know players stop being any use to anyone by the time they hit 30.
30 is the new 80 on the Caf....
Gotta laugh at all the changing level of optimism/negativity regarding this transfer on a daily basis. Some of you just need to be patient and we'll know soon enough.Not sure if our midfield will be quick and mobile enough if he and Carrick play together, that's probably the concern here
No patience in here whatsoever.
It's not one or the other... It looks like it, because we're haggling over Schneiderlin's price, since we know he's ours.
It will be both or just Schneiderlin.
It will be both or just Schneiderlin.
One week until our first game, hope this will be completed by then.
Louis touched on his frustrations with the transfer window today, no clubs are rushing to sell anyone with almost two months left.
Louis touched on his frustrations with the transfer window today, no clubs are rushing to sell anyone with almost two months left.
I'm sure there was a tweet a couple of days back that said he'd fly out with Southampton but we'd still get him when he returned. I'm sure things are happening behind the scenes.
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