I agree. New owners will make a real difference imo.
Moises Caicedo | Chelsea agree £115M fee | signed for Chelsea
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The problem with bringing in both Mount and Caicedo is that,,beyond the massive financial outlay required to do both, they would both expect to be regular starters and there's no way with the current squad we can make that work. Bring in Mount to take the reins from Eriksen and then bring in Andre (Fluminense) for probably 20-25m, a younger player who can grow into the Casemiro role over the next 2 seasons as Casemiro begins to light his cigar.
I’d much prefer the money be spent here than on Mount. Better player overall, versatile and good age.
Maybe but I’d highly doubt this is going anywhere. I’d see him staying at Brighton more than joining us.
I get your point but this is man united and that (Mount and Caicedo along with Bruno, Eriksen and Casemiro) is a good problem to have.
Unless 433
Onana
Dalot Varane Martinez Shaw
Mount Casemiro Caicedo
Bruno Kane Rashford
In a dream world
This will be the best midfield signing of the summer in the PL
You realize you can have more than one quality player for a position right? Rotation is a thing
Not a fan of Bruno on the right
Onana, Caicedo and Hojlund would be a realistic and progressive transfer window. If we add Mount to that I'd day that's an excellent set of additions.
That right side is brutal, no width so you'd rely on Dalot and then there is very little natural tracking back ability. No point in Mount as it would mean benching Antony also.
Agreed, considering the circumstances. Can’t see us signing Mount and Caicedo though.
Yeah, you're probably right. I think it'll be Mount but Caicedo would be my choice.
I want to believe.......but I don't.
Agree, it doesn't seem realistic.
If we sign Mount who appears to be our first choice, I think a second midfield signing would be someone more amenable to being on the bench than either Caicedo or Mount would be.
If you buy players out of their contracts, how does it affect FFP?
Why not? The financial hit is obviously the big issue, but we'd have no problem making sure everyone plays plenty of games.
We'd basically have four players (Casemiro, Caicedo, Bruno and Mount) for three positions, with a couple of others (Eriksen, Fred and Scott depending on sales) acting as backup. With proper rotation, all of the main four could start three out of every four games, and whoever is on the bench would almost always get subbed on anyway. Now obviously it won't end up being a perfect rotation, but unless ETH is very opposed to rotation we'd have no problem keeping all four happy. Especially when we'd also have some games that we could start them all, with Caicedo an option at right back and Bruno or Mount an option out wide.
The squad players are the ones who might not end up being happy, but that's not really much of an issue.
Sorry, missed any updates. Are we suddenly in for Caicedo as well.? Thought it was just to provoke Chelsea?
No, I would assume Fred and McT will leave.
Leaves Casemiro, Eriksen, Mount ,Bruno and Caicedo for 3 positions. Everyone will get plenty of time .
It's not safe to assume that either Fred or McTominay will leave, let alone both. But even if they do both leave, which of the two between Mount and Caicedo would be happy to serve as a squad man for United?
Sure, but I'll repeat what should be obvious to all -- neither Mount or Caicedo are likely to be eager to become squad players for United. Fred, McTominay, Eriksen and Van De Beek all fit the profile of a dutiful squad player, but not Mount or Caicedo.
So have we had anything reliable here? I only check United transfer tweets nowadays
Mount will be replacing Fred imo with the energetic duty. Fred played quite high up last season. Caceido is the new kante - which our version was also Fred. A bit unlikely we get 2 Fred style replacements imo.
It doesn't have to be a "squad man". We have 60 + games next season. It's not that hard. Which top team goes into a season with only starters ?
Riiiight
Are De Jong and Casemiro similar players ? Or Gakpo and Antony ? When ETH was signing with us there were lots of articles about how tactically flexible he was and how he’d adapt to what he has, personally I think Caicedo would be a better signing than Mount as he can partner Casemiro as well as replace him.
Or more like the new Bissouma. Or that other shaggy Spanish lad who bombed at Chelsea. Have any of these flavor of the year Brighton footballers done well in bigger ponds? Just can't get on this Caicedo bandwagon.
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The plan would be to have a squad that rotates players and is thereby always fresh, a la City. If you ever put City players in your fantasy team you'll see how Pep rotated the feckers and sat the players you/I picked every 3rd game or so. It will also give EtH tactical flexibility when picking his squads for particular opponents.
The 260 M figure I think comes from the 200 M line of credit plus free cash flow but like other reports have suggested, the Glazers wont use the line of credit while they're in the sale process which probably means we have about 60 M in free cash flow. However, with the multiple tranches in which transfer fee is actually paid out, having 60M + perhaps another 20-30 M from player sales (assuming 20-30 M is the cashflow and not the total incoming fund), we should be able to spend say 2x the available cashflow, so probably closer to 150M. With that in mind, there is no way we spend the amount being quoted on Mount + Caicedo along with an Onana and a Striker. Most likely scenario would be Mount + Onana + Striker. Ofcourse, if a deal does get done and there is some understanding between the Glazers and whoever the new owner is, it could result in some of the 200M being made available.
While I agree that there are talented up and coming DMs who we can get for much lower prices, we can definitely fit both Mount and Caicedo into a starting line-up. We'd just have to tweak the formation and play a 4-3-1-2.
GK
AWB/Dalot - Varane - Martinez - Shaw
Caicedo - Casemiro - Mount
Bruno
Rashford - CF.
Odd men out are Eriksen, Antony and Sancho which i'm very okay with.
Nope, all depends on how the "face to face" talks go with Chelsea in regards to Mount in next 24 hours. If the impass remains over fee and we walk away to other targets, then we might see something?
Tbh, i think he's (caiceido) is chelsea bound.
Or normal set up with Caicedo playing as inverted RB like he twice did against us.
We aren’t in for Caicedo. How gullible can people be
Osimhen No, Kane No, Rice No, Rabiot No, now we are debating Caicedo for a few weeks till someone else buys him. Give it 4 weeks and we will be having a debate on, is it a good deal to swap Fred plus 20m for Mitrovic.
on a side note that Khephern Thuram is a big unit in midfield for France Under 21
on a side note that Khephern Thuram is a big unit in midfield for France Under 21
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That’s shoe horning Bruno into the squad which is something we need to move away from. We have Antony who cost 86mil and actually plays on the right. Add sancho to that and Bruno shouldn’t really be on the right at all. It’s not his natural position and it’s not him at his best.
I don’t think my dream world would include Dalot.
If Qatar gets finalised I wouldn’t be surprised if we get Kane.
Casemiro and FdJ are different players stylistically but they both play in the CMs. Gakpo and Antony are both predominantly used as wide attackers....
Mount played as a 10 or wide, the Chelsea guys on here have been stressing he played very few games in the CMs when injuries hit the squad. Caicedo would compete with Case, Eriksen, McT etc. Mount would mostly compete with Bruno.
I don’t see Mount coming in to compete with our captain and a player who is never injured or rarely rested nor is Mount going to play out wide, it’s far likelier he’d come in to replace Eriksen and we move to a 4-3-3 with Casemiro as the defensive midfielder behind two 8’s in Mount and Fernandes.
This is like when half the caf were adamant Eriksen was going to do that and it was so obvious he was going to play CM - Casemiro as a lone DM with two attack minded 8's ahead would be a disaster.
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