It will be interesting to see how this develops. I think you’re grossly overpricing him and West Ham are doing the same with Rice. Enzo was massively overpriced but at least that was a take it or leave it release clause. Arsenal are crazy for even considering paying £100m for Rice and Chelsea will be too with Caicedo. Why did he even sign a new contract in January?
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It will be interesting to see how this develops. I think you’re grossly overpricing him and West Ham are doing the same with Rice. Enzo was massively overpriced but at least that was a take it or leave it release clause. Arsenal are crazy for even considering paying £100m for Rice and Chelsea will be too with Caicedo. Why did he even sign a new contract in January?
So far so good, we don’t get mentioned a whole lot with regards to this player.
Just really among the fan base.
Just really among the fan base.
Because De Zerbi is a great man manager and so that we could charge you a hundred million quid!
I think Chelsea have massively distorted the market. You mention Enzo's release clause, but that's just an asking price in written form. Benfica could have sold for less if they wanted to, but they correctly read the situation and saw that Chelsea were willing to pay.
I don't really have a problem with how Brighton and West Ham are conducting themselves. I similarly don't think that Arsenal's opening bids for both Rice and Caicedo were disrespectful. Everyone is doing the best for their club. I do think it might limit Brighton's pull in the market if potential signings feel they may end up trapped by ever higher price tags. But that is very much a medium-to-long term problem.
How so?
A couple problems with this analysis.
First, as long as we don’t bring in clinical finishers — and let’s be honest, we do not — we’ll be vulnerable to a single goal taking three points from us match after match. Top three will be our ceiling, not our floor.
Second, ETH ideally wants us pressing from the top, not sitting back to counter from the back. No José tactics under Erik. Yes of course we all want a modern sweeper keeper, but the system works optimally when we regain possession in the final or middle third — not the back third.
We both press high and build up from the back which is why the keeper is important.
£80m is a lot of money, but in a market where declan rice is worth £100m, caicedo is worth £80m, and he's better, and younger than declan rice
You say that as if West Ham haven’t consistently priced Rice at over £100m. You can’t blame Chelsea for Arsenal agreeing to pay West Ham’s valuation. That’s been there years before Enzo even set foot in Europe. No one else was interested at that valuation. Until Arsenal were. We all knew Bellingham would go for around £100m too. Tchouameni went for a huge fee as well.
Enzo is just one of several midfielders being priced at that level. That doesn’t mean they aren’t all extremely overpriced. I do understand West Ham and Brighton’s stance here and I would want Chelsea to do exactly the same to any team interested in our players. But from the buyer’s perspective, £100m for Caicedo is too much and I’d want Chelsea to walk away, just as I did when we were interested in Rice and West Han named their price.
Pogba was a bargain also for 10 years at 80 odd million and a much more proven and better player at time of purchase.
We missed our chance when he was in Ecuador
You won't walk away
Imagine we fund Chelsea buying overrated Mount, so they can get him. Crazy
Anything lower than £90 million we should be in for him still. The value is still there, because of his age, current ability and potential to be the best player on the planet in his position.
If it’s any higher we should just go hard buying cheap, highly talented teenagers in all the positions we need, I don’t think any of our other targets are worth the inflated price in this crazy market (bar KMJ).
If it’s any higher we should just go hard buying cheap, highly talented teenagers in all the positions we need, I don’t think any of our other targets are worth the inflated price in this crazy market (bar KMJ).
Yeah we should be rivalling them not funding
Mac allister had a release clause in his contract.
A keeper is very important, no question. As are defenders, midfielders and forwards. But the question is that in light of the gaping holes in the squad, which holes are more urgent to fill than others.
But with the news that’s been put out in the last 20 minutes we now have a gaping hole at keeper that must be filled first. If we don’t bring in a striker at least we can shoehorn in Rashford and if we don’t bring in a midfielder we can always call on Fred and McTominay. And if that how it’s going to be, we may have to resort to animal sacrifice to the football gods.
So annoying we have to sacrifice something
We’re never going to win the league again are we..
Not unless Jassim buys the club no
I would have loved him at that price.
5 YEAR CONTRACT AT £89 million. World record.
We couldn't be bothered to find a way round the complexities of that deal
I like him but wouldnt pay a penny more than Arsenal's rumoured bid in Jan of £70 million. He's your combative midfielder who can pass, he's not the guy who is going to grab you points with set up and goals. Even that amount is paying for potential, he's worth more like £60 million at his current level.
You undervalue the importance of the no 6 position, we saw how Casemiro transformed our team last season. Caicedo is similar to buying a 21 year old Casemiro.
It’s funny everyone calls him overrated - can’t be very highly rated then can he
Feel the same way if we buy Havertz. Caicedo looks like the player we actually need. Why we are helping Chelsea buy their underachieving or overrated players at premium prices is beyond me. Part of the reason why they are in a dismal 12th spot is because these players were not good enough. Fail to see how they will make the jump to a top4 team and improve drastically. It can happen but surely it should be at a cut price at this point? It is strange.
Are you one of our brilliant negotiating team???
His position is one of the most crucial in modern football, just cos he dont set up goals and score goals doesnt mean you knock 40million off his value.
The lad is a born leader and gonna be at top of his game for next 8-10 years, Cas cant go on for ever.
Yeah exactly why we need him
Upgraded what? They are not even playing same position ffs.
How much are Brighton demanding?
A pisstake of an amount, players will stop joining or insert clauses in their contracts if they keep taking the piss.
He's worth about 60.
Would say he's worth £75-80m
He plays nothing like Casemiro in my opinion.
Casemiro’s game is about defensive positioning.
The way he reads the attack and cuts it through his own positioning 5 min before.
Caceido is very combative and is energetic and is chasing the player and the ball.
It’s probably why he has a lot of fans, because it’s very obvious and easy to see what he does on a football pitch to the average football viewer.
Casemiro’s game is about defensive positioning.
The way he reads the attack and cuts it through his own positioning 5 min before.
Caceido is very combative and is energetic and is chasing the player and the ball.
It’s probably why he has a lot of fans, because it’s very obvious and easy to see what he does on a football pitch to the average football viewer.
Barber said a value of £150 million plus, current value before he starts scoring goals as well. Mac Allister was worth £40 million on the same scale.
They both play midfield, they upgrade their midfield. Just like if you sell a CB you dont rate and use the money to buy a RB you want have upgraded your defence.
Never is a very long time so I won’t go that far, but what I will say is that the moment I heard Moyes was appointed Ferguson’s successor I was sure it would take at least a decade before we would challenge for the PL trophy again.
At this point, the best I can see is doing over the next 5 years is third place. At the bottom of it all is getting rid of the Glazers, which would enable us to invest our resources more intelligently than the day we brought in Fellaini. Early signs are positive with our moves under ETH but we gave still have a long way to go.
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