re: Caicedo playing right back, he had played there a grand total of four times at the end of the season, having never played there before in his career, including at youth level. He was an emergency option due to injuries to Veltman, Lamptey and Groß. If he were to sign for you, he would not be playing right back - inverted or otherwise.
Moises Caicedo | Chelsea agree £115M fee | signed for Chelsea
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I don't think I've seen any reliable or even semi-reliable source link him to us. He's clearly Chelsea or Arsenal bound.
If Ten Hag were interested then we'd be hearing a lot more noise on him instead of Mason Mount.
If Ten Hag were interested then we'd be hearing a lot more noise on him instead of Mason Mount.
I’m sure with unlimited funds where he wasn’t having to prioritise positions he’d be interested in plenty of players. Until the takeover is complete the pot will be known and he will be working with that.
Its the fact he's seemingly more keen on Mason Mount that tells him he doesn't fancy him as much.
My only fear is Boehly
Think he would be an excellent signing but a little strange that nobody is questioning the huge fee it would likely take to bring him here as if he is worth every penny, yet lots of comments on other big premiership players, a couple beig English that are worth nowhere near the fees, yet are more experienced and proven. Not saying they are better or worse, but £70m+ is a huge fee for Caicedo
Arsenal have already had a £65m rejected so 6 months on and with two big clubs now fighting for his signature, it’s not so strange. I think it is an overpay for a player nowhere near the finished article but you’re paying for potential as well as what he brings currently.
It really is spreading on this forum.You're suggesting it's a race issue?
Ever so often - in a case that can easily be dismissed as a coincidence or a matter of personal preference - a poster will accuse another poster of racism.
I saw a poster asking "Why not Maignan - isn't he better?" in the Onana-thread, and immediately he/she was asked "oh, it's a black thing now, is it?". Well, no? It's just that they're both goalies - and we're in need of a goalie?
In this case it's just plain condescending and preachy. "I think Caicedo is the right fit, and if you disagree, you're a racist".
Meant it is strange in comparison to other transfer values that nobody is questioning it. Like you say he will cost 70/80% of the fee of already established proven players people are saying are massively over priced, crazy fees to be paying for potential to a degree, but yes not so strange in the current market
Tchouameni went to Madrid for 80M euros rising to 100M with add ons, Brighton see that transfer as a good yardstick by which to measure any price for Caicedo.
So basically 70m fixed + 10m/15m in add ons.
Certainly no less than that
I hear you but I do think it has to do with how highly he’s rated generally by fans. Tchouameni, Bellingham etc are/were overpriced for the level they’re at currently but Real Madrid paid the money mostly because how good they think these players can become over the next few years. I think the same applies to Caicedo.
Must get this boy, talented, hard working, down to earth and most importantly a good honest individual
It is an obvious signing to make and one we're going to regret not making, as with countless other transfers from PL like Van Dijk, Mahrez, Kanté, Mane etc.
Now that Rice is going to Arsenal, Caicedo is my dream signing. He's agrresive, quick, strong, hard working, press resistant and more creative than you would think. Excactly what we need to control games and prevent opponents from walking through our midfield.
Having said that, I have no hope that we're actually going to sign him.
Having said that, I have no hope that we're actually going to sign him.
If it’s between us and Chelsea then we must push the boat out for him, Enzo+Caicedo could set them up in midfield for a decade. Feck paying top money for Mount to fund Caicedo for them.
Would be such a dumb move.. which is exactly why that's going to happen.
Caicedo makes so much more sense than Mount.
Not that we’ve had super strong links to Lavia recently, but if the plan was to get Mount + Lavia id be pretty content. I do think Caicedo + Rabiot would be our best option though in the immediate term.
Don’t get me wrong I think Mount would be a decent signing too, but I suspect Caicedo will be a player to have for a decade.
Getting Caicedo and Mount, while shipping McTominay and Fred out leaves us with a very strong midfield. Casemiro as the anchor, Caicedo as the destroyer and Bruno as the creator.
For similar fees, it'd be madness to go for Mount. We'd basically enable Chelsea to buy him. Caicedo and Fernandez have huge potential as a pairing.
If we are disposing of McTominay, Fred, Sabitzer and DVB, we need more than Mount. Caicedo would be a brilliant signing and can play a variety of positions not just in midfield but at RB like he did for Brighton at the end of the season.
I think he just wants two attacking 8s in front of Casemiro. Mount will be a good signing.
Would be the ideal signing for our midfield. I'm not sure we can afford him at the moment given our budget restraints/more pressing areas.
If we manage to ship McT, Fred and DvB for 60/70m combined thats Caicedo fee sorted, or most of it. Maguire + Henderson would cover KMJ + a new cheapish keeper (Raya?). That leaves whatever we started with + sales of other fringe players for a CF + another MF.
In one or two years we'll be forced to look for combatitive midfielder anyway, as Casemiro sooner or later could deplet the stamina and be forced to play less, which was the case for Matić as his legs were ran into the ground at the end.
If Brighton manages to keep him for one more year or just at least to winter, this is perfect scenario. United will be under new ownership by then and capable to fight off any opposition in the market. Just not sure if there's still time, but definitely worth some risk, even now.
If Brighton manages to keep him for one more year or just at least to winter, this is perfect scenario. United will be under new ownership by then and capable to fight off any opposition in the market. Just not sure if there's still time, but definitely worth some risk, even now.
Just can't see us spending around £120-125m on two midfielders but happy to be wrong. Have felt all along it's Mount/Caicedo and cheaper option
If Chelsea get Caicedo for 70m, and we spend 50+m on Mount, some questions need to be asked.
Convinced this comes down to him not offering what Mount can in Erik's eyes. Yes I know that sounds mental but it's just my read on it
Yeah they are totally different types of players. I wonder who Erik is looking at as an alternative to Mount (in case we can’t do a deal for him) but I don’t think it will be Caicedo.
Yeah you get the impression he hasn't got am alternative much like he didn't with De Jong
We definitely need a striker, but Caicedo has become my ideal summer signing. A midfield of Casemiro, Caicedo and Bruno is good enough to mix it with anyone in the league.
My guess is the idea is we'd play the WM that is so hot right now:
Sancho------Rashford--------Antony
---------Mount---------Bruno-----------
------------Casemiro----Caicedo------
---Shaw--Lisandro-Varane----------
for example. So Caicedo is the RB when we defend in a back 4, but otherwise comes into midfield like Stones or TAA do. Caicedo would seem to have the legs to play that sort of role.
And when Casemiro or Caicedo is out it's probably just a normal 4-3-3 with Dalot or Wan-Bissaka coming in.
Put Rashford at LW and a new #9 up top if we sign someone better than Sancho/Garnacho.
Pros:
-Suits Shaw perfectly
-Lisandro gets to dictate the game
-Sancho might actually do well in that Grealish type role. Antony too.
-Mount or Eriksen and Bruno get to have 2 DMs behind them
Cons:
-Varane dragged out wide too often? Is KMJ mobile enough for that? We know Lindelof has problems in that much space.
-Malacia looked awful in the Shaw role today, though I guess we could just use Lindelof centrally and Lisandro in that role when Shaw is out.
-Is it a good fit for Rashford at LW? Might take him a bit wider and further from goal and suit a winger more.
Caicedo will be a beast for years to come.
I fear we’re going to miss out on him because we have Casemiro even though we should be looking at bringing him as someone who can play in casemiro role or alongside him. We literally don’t have a good enough replacement to rotate with Casemiro. He already looked leggy in a number of games near the end of the season. We can’t go into the new season with just him as an option in the holding role.
I fear we’re going to miss out on him because we have Casemiro even though we should be looking at bringing him as someone who can play in casemiro role or alongside him. We literally don’t have a good enough replacement to rotate with Casemiro. He already looked leggy in a number of games near the end of the season. We can’t go into the new season with just him as an option in the holding role.
Sancho going the other way...
Yep this is exactly why we will miss out,would be definitely be worried if we also don't get someone who could provide cover there like Rabiot
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