Has Salah not hands-down conclusively proven to be better than both put together, covered in icing and topped with cherries? Ah, but you're going to throw the 'one season' argument at me aren't you? How many seasons have Sterling and Sane been even half as good as this season's Salah? Maybe you're going to thrown the 'higher ceiling' and 'both are younger' as your last desperate attempt? Response: so fecking what? Winning is all about the here and now specially when you're a bank rolled club.
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Has Salah not hands-down conclusively proven to be better than both put together, covered in icing and topped with cherries? Ah, but you're going to throw the 'one season' argument at me aren't you? How many seasons have Sterling and Sane been even half as good as this season's Salah? Maybe you're going to thrown the 'higher ceiling' and 'both are younger' as your last desperate attempt? Response: so fecking what? Winning is all about the here and now specially when you're a bank rolled club.
Liverpool fan on historic rival's site pimping out team's own best player to would be champions in some sort of vain attempt at I don't know what.
Odd.
My question remains unanswered. Would City fans (not Utd fans talking on City fans' behalf) take him and be happy with the ridiculous money spent? Even at the cost of perma-dropping one of Sane/Sterling?
No one in the world would spend 200 millions or more buying a 26 year old player that this season is the first time on his career he scores more than 15 goals. His cost 7 months ago was something around 36 million pounds, you don't become a superstar because of scoring goals one season for a team that is 18 points under Manchester City in the PL. he can easily be a one season wonder. So let's see first if he is consistent and can mantain this level, and how he develops in the World Cup this summer.
City usually buy 30-60 M players.
He’s on a windup. He’s setting himself up with the CL tie coming soon anyway.
You mean the hugely prestigious FA, and league cups?
Hmm, yeah, think Salah would probably rather be in the Quarter-finals, of the most glamorous, and prestigious club trophy on the planet. Oh, and by the way 1990 is actually in the '90's (wow, seriously mate, the clue is in the '90'.
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You mean the hugely prestigious FA, and league cups?
Hmm, yeah, think Salah would probably rather be in the Quarter-finals, of the most glamorous, and prestigious club trophy on the planet. Oh, and by the way 1990 is actually in the '90's (wow, seriously mate, the clue is in the '90'.
I think the operative words were 'could win'.
Out of the PL & both domestic cups and in all likelihood going out of the CL this round. Obviously as a Liverpool fan you know intimately how Salah feels about missing out on every available domestic team honour but maybe the fact that he's at a club thats careering toward 30 years without a league title is a concern.. its still just the 28 years though... which, going by your post is cause for celebration... I think?
Also in the above post he's talking about the comparison between Salah & Messi.. Messi is also in the QFs of that competition. I mean the real difference is he'll be in the SFs too and is winning his league at a canter unlike Mo - which was essentially the entire point you missed.
Always nice to see oppo fans turn up their noses at trophies they ever so rarely compete for though, very Spursy.
I like Salah a lot, be interesting to see if he's at Liverpool next year (think he will be) and if he keeps up this level or similar (not so sure).
He'll go to Real Madrid guaranteed. Salah is abviously talking through his national coach and his agent. The bad news is, Liverpool will get another 90 mil to spend. Hopefully on another Benteke or Balotelly.
Yes, and I think you miss the point of my post entirely too, so fair do's. Nice to be so 'narky' isn't it. If that's what you 'get off' on, good for you. I didn't mention 28 years, I merely pointed out that he got his decades incorrect.
No, he's sure not to win anything at Liverpool, a club who are seriously on the up, with Van Dijk already arrived, and Keita to come. Also serious scouting of Allison Becker, Jorginho and Timo Werner, and interest in Draxler.
Interestingly enough, this time last year posters similar in vein to you, were saying that Virgil Van Dijk, and Naby Keita would never go to Liverpool. It's a funny game, speculation.
By the way, I still believe Liverpool are the record holders of the League Cup, so no, not 'Spursy' (whatever the hell that means - tho' Spurs' are a damn good side, so being associated with them is quite a compliment).
However, I'd still rather be in the CL quarter finals (and so would you I'd wager) against a side we beat at Anfield this season, and have a great record against in general.
Oh, and Salah will definitely be at Liverpool next season, it's the year after he may move on if there's not much sucess, and a large bid comes in.
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I've been seeing some real delusional thoughts from some Pool supporters, many on this forum and some of my friends who support pool
1.Salah is worth 200 mill
2.VVD is Rio level defender
3.Pool are gonna beat City and will beat Bayern Munich in the next round ( if they get Bayern)
4.Pool are going to buy a top CB, 2 CM & a top GK in the upcoming window with 60-70 million Keita coming in.
I mean I know Pool are doing well, but many of this things are just hard to believe
1.Salah is worth 200 mill
2.VVD is Rio level defender
3.Pool are gonna beat City and will beat Bayern Munich in the next round ( if they get Bayern)
4.Pool are going to buy a top CB, 2 CM & a top GK in the upcoming window with 60-70 million Keita coming in.
I mean I know Pool are doing well, but many of this things are just hard to believe
You do realize that your team spend about 150 million on two players right.
Keita and VVD although are good players, you paid 150 million for a CM who has been good for about 2 years and a CB who no one would say is world class.
So I wouldn't put them down as achievements.
Secondly that 150 million came mostly from the sale of Coutinho. If I'm not wrong Pool tries to even out sales and buys with very little net spend,, or that's the business strategy.
But you somehow expect your board to go crazy this year and buy Allison : 40-50 mill, Jorginho : 40 - 50 mill, Werner for 60-70 million plus another CB & CM??
That's like 250 million plus pounds on top of 150 you spend on Keita and VVD.
Do you really think that's happening?
Now about the CL, yeah United lost to Sevilla, but you do realize you defeated FC Porto and not PSG or Madrid on the way to the quarter finals right.
I don't mean to take anything away from Pool, well done to reach the quarter finals, but I don't think you guys have done anything worth bragging on and on like you are.
Why do people mention Pool being far from the title as something to knock him for? is he supposed to help them defend? He's one of the best players in the world, top 10 easily, top 5 maybe. Why are people also saying the pool fans are deluded for thinking he's a 200 mil footballer but would accept that Kane is one? same level of player.
He's done it for 1 season.
Yup, odd but unsurprising.
Oh let me think of a few reasons why Kane is worth more than Salah
OK, I've got a few
- Profile and Marketability : England captain and the face of English Football
- 3 top top seasons in what is arguably the top league in the world
- The best or second best striker in the world despite being 24
I can go on, but let's just consider those 3 points vs Salah
Profile and Marketability : not much
Barely 1 top season
1 year older than Kane with people still trying to figure out whether this is a purple patch or if this is his true class
22342279, member: 111674"]You do realize that your team spend about 150 million on two players right.
Keita and VVD although are good players, you paid 150 million for a CM who has been good for about 2 years and a CB who no one would say is world class.
So I wouldn't put them down as achievements.
Secondly that 150 million came mostly from the sale of Coutinho. If I'm not wrong Pool tries to even out sales and buys with very little net spend,, or that's the business strategy.
But you somehow expect your board to go crazy this year and buy Allison : 40-50 mill, Jorginho : 40 - 50 mill, Werner for 60-70 million plus another CB & CM??
That's like 250 million plus pounds on top of 150 you spend on Keita and VVD.
Do you really think that's happening?
Now about the CL, yeah United lost to Sevilla, but you do realize you defeated FC Porto and not PSG or Madrid on the way to the quarter finals right.
I don't mean to take anything away from Pool, well done to reach the quarter finals, but I don't think you guys have done anything worth bragging on and on like you are.[/QUOTE]
Not sure how you get £150 from £75m + £62m but fairplay. Virtually every pundit, and most knowledgable football fans rate VvD as not just World Class, but as vying with Aderweireld as the most complete CB in the premier league.
Also,
Both transfers were earmarked, and pursued last summer, well before Barca decided to go all out for Coutinho. FSG haven't suddenly gone crazy. They set out a transfer kitty of £200-£220m for last summer. This is well known and reported by all the leading LFC journalists Pearce, Bascombe etc, etc.
Anyone with any knowledge of these things would know that they have, not only changed their policy Van Dijk being 26 (they previously would not spend for anyone over 24-25, and then Very rarely) but, they are spending big because they believe in Klopp.
The kitty last year was a record high because Klopp gave them a minus spend on the previous two windows.
This year will also be a record kitty because both Michael Edwards and Klopp himself, have gone on record that every penny of the £142m (or £146m depending on who you believe) Coutinho money will go straight into the transfer kitty, which it is looking increasingly likely, will be bolstered by CL qualification, and progression money.
Liverpool, will have between £220 and £250m to spend this summer, if required and those figures are from almost every journalist connected with, or reporting on the club.
Keita and VVD although are good players, you paid 150 million for a CM who has been good for about 2 years and a CB who no one would say is world class.
So I wouldn't put them down as achievements.
Secondly that 150 million came mostly from the sale of Coutinho. If I'm not wrong Pool tries to even out sales and buys with very little net spend,, or that's the business strategy.
But you somehow expect your board to go crazy this year and buy Allison : 40-50 mill, Jorginho : 40 - 50 mill, Werner for 60-70 million plus another CB & CM??
That's like 250 million plus pounds on top of 150 you spend on Keita and VVD.
Do you really think that's happening?
Now about the CL, yeah United lost to Sevilla, but you do realize you defeated FC Porto and not PSG or Madrid on the way to the quarter finals right.
I don't mean to take anything away from Pool, well done to reach the quarter finals, but I don't think you guys have done anything worth bragging on and on like you are.[/QUOTE]
Not sure how you get £150 from £75m + £62m but fairplay. Virtually every pundit, and most knowledgable football fans rate VvD as not just World Class, but as vying with Aderweireld as the most complete CB in the premier league.
Also,
Both transfers were earmarked, and pursued last summer, well before Barca decided to go all out for Coutinho. FSG haven't suddenly gone crazy. They set out a transfer kitty of £200-£220m for last summer. This is well known and reported by all the leading LFC journalists Pearce, Bascombe etc, etc.
Anyone with any knowledge of these things would know that they have, not only changed their policy Van Dijk being 26 (they previously would not spend for anyone over 24-25, and then Very rarely) but, they are spending big because they believe in Klopp.
The kitty last year was a record high because Klopp gave them a minus spend on the previous two windows.
This year will also be a record kitty because both Michael Edwards and Klopp himself, have gone on record that every penny of the £142m (or £146m depending on who you believe) Coutinho money will go straight into the transfer kitty, which it is looking increasingly likely, will be bolstered by CL qualification, and progression money.
Liverpool, will have between £220 and £250m to spend this summer, if required and those figures are from almost every journalist connected with, or reporting on the club.
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It's not really delusional. He is easily worth that — to Liverpool. Anyone else would be foolish to pay that much for him, seeing as he is relatively unproven, but Liverpool has enough money and the contract is long enough for them to refuse any lower offer.
@Jamie L fair enough, we will see how the summer window goes.
@harms we know that's not how transfer values work. Just bacause I think Martial is worth 200 million, it doesn't make him worth 200 million.
Value of anything is not determined just by the guy who sells it, but also by the person who buys it.
And what I mean is the actual value of something, not a number I pull out of thin air without a second's thought.
If it's the latter, then yeah Salah is worth 200 million
If Salah is worth 200 million, how much is Neymar worth?
Very Marketable, probably the third best player in the world,just signed a long contract, was bought for 220 mill, plays for a sugar daddy club
Taking all that into account, going by the Salah rate, I say Neymar is worth 1 billion
@harms we know that's not how transfer values work. Just bacause I think Martial is worth 200 million, it doesn't make him worth 200 million.
Value of anything is not determined just by the guy who sells it, but also by the person who buys it.
And what I mean is the actual value of something, not a number I pull out of thin air without a second's thought.
If it's the latter, then yeah Salah is worth 200 million
If Salah is worth 200 million, how much is Neymar worth?
Very Marketable, probably the third best player in the world,just signed a long contract, was bought for 220 mill, plays for a sugar daddy club
Taking all that into account, going by the Salah rate, I say Neymar is worth 1 billion
Good man
Cool Sanche.
Thank you for a good 'back and forth', and also for getting my brain working at this time in the morning!
All the best mate.
He wouldn't move for less than €100m if he leaves after this season, I don't think that's an outrageous thing to say at all. €200m is obviously exaggerated.
This is the pain point that is really hurting the fans on this thread. I mean seriously hurting.
I'm not on a WUM, neither am I boasting his value on a rival site beyond the usual average and I certainly hope no one stumps up the money, even a billion pounds. You don't win things by losing your best players. We know this very well.
If City and PSG fans are not willing to pay that (or more as we will ask for if he has a good CL and world cup too) then fantastic. That's the whole point of seeing that value.
Sanche, if Martial says he wants to leave this summer and Klopp/Pep both come in to ask to buy hypothetically... how much will Woodward value him at in your opinion?
Dumbstar always acts so smug when Liverpool's best player is linked to other clubs and then goes on to devalue the player when it's inevitably sold.
"Ibe is better than Sterling anyway" was the genuine line he used when Sterling was sold.
"Ibe is better than Sterling anyway" was the genuine line he used when Sterling was sold.
Your such a strange poster.
I will now search for your posts in the Welbeck has a higher ceiling than Sturridge thread. You took it there, girlfriend.
I dont think he'll move at all this season mainly because the gap between valuations will be too much. As you said, you'll want 100mil+ but I don't see a club paying that after 1 good season.
I will now search for your posts in the Welbeck has a higher ceiling than Sturridge thread. You took it there, girlfriend.
I got it wrong then, I can accept that.
You are very smug everytime when it comes to Liverpool selling their best players which is very rich considering the amount of players you lot have sold in the last 7-8 years. Learn the lesson that Liverpool is a selling club.
Klopp to Munich, Salah to Madrid, what a wonderful summer that would be.
It would be absolutely awful. Thankfully this summer is all about Poch to PSG and Kane to Real. Phew, eh?
@Dumbstar how do you put value on something
You say Salah is worth 200,so how much is VVD worth going by that rate?
I'm just trying to see the reason behind the pricing.
Now if you are telling me that's what you think he's worth for the club, then why stop at 200,why not more
And if you mean the actual value you suppose the club is going to sell him for, do you honestly believe a guy with one very good season is worth 200 million?
And also, no one is butt hurt by your fantasies mate, 200 million for Salah, 250 million to spend this summer, CL semis and whatever else you want to fantasize about, please go on
You say Salah is worth 200,so how much is VVD worth going by that rate?
I'm just trying to see the reason behind the pricing.
Now if you are telling me that's what you think he's worth for the club, then why stop at 200,why not more
And if you mean the actual value you suppose the club is going to sell him for, do you honestly believe a guy with one very good season is worth 200 million?
And also, no one is butt hurt by your fantasies mate, 200 million for Salah, 250 million to spend this summer, CL semis and whatever else you want to fantasize about, please go on
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Question nicely dodged again. Value is what a buyer is willing to pay. It's that simple really. A price however is what the seller sets.
At no point have I said any footballer is worth the 'value' people set on them. However if someone wants what you've got desperately enough then that's the 'price'.
VVD is not 'worth' 75m. Again, no footballer is. But that was the price and we were desperate enough to pay. Southampton didn't go to 200m because the player had gone on strike and Southampton became desperate for more defenders themselves thus settled on that.
Show me a single one season wonder that has played at the level Salah is playing at now.
The best players in the world are always hugely marketable, especially when they are flashy attackers who make highlight reels. Won't be too long till sponsors make him the face of their brands.
Given what Salah has done in that same league, god knows what he'll do to it in due time.
Again, the purple patch argument, which player has played at the level Salah is playing at and it turned into a purple patch? The guy could drop 10 goals and still be having an amazing season.
You asked what's the difference between him and Kane.
Very good post. Couldn’t have put it better myself.
Kane is a level above Salah. Kane has way more to his game and has done it for longer.
Guys, Neymar or Salah?