Mo Salah

First question asked of Klopp in the post-match interview: "Can Mo Salah be stopped at the moment?"

I'm sure he was playing against us last week, maybe not though as I don't recall him having a meaningful kick all afternoon....
 
Unbelievable season.

As of now he'll finish in the top 3 for the Ballon D'Or. With the easy group at the World Cup he really has the possibility of making something special happen there too. Really hoping this isn't a one off and he can cement himself as a star player. For the sanity of the caf hopefully he does it somewhere else though :D
 
Their defenders are prone to individual mistakes which has cost them throughout the entire season
That doesn't excuse them for being behind an apparently toothless and clueless United side so late into the season.

The reason for that is because they commit so many players into attack. Their defenders wouldn't make so many mistakes if they weren't exposed as often as they are.
 
That doesn't excuse them for being behind an apparently toothless and clueless United side so late into the season.

The reason for that is because they commit so many players into attack. Their defenders wouldn't make so many mistakes if they weren't exposed as often as they are.
I will not agree entirely. The individual quality of their defenders is a bit low tbh to what is required for a title push or even finishing higher. Of course being better coached when defending would help but the many mistakes Lovren/Klavan/Karius/Mignolet have made at various points have cost them dearly. Our defenders are a lot less prone to feck ups.
 
It's not just Salah. For a long time we've missed out on signing players like him. We never take a chance and sign players who are under the radar. Everything at United is about boosting shirt sales and signing household names. It reminds a bit of when SAF signed Chicharito and he scored 20+ goals in his first season. Let's be honest nobody knew who he was but he surprised everyone with his goals. OK sometimes it didn't work like Bebe but when it did it was amazing.

Perisic might have turned out like that for us, who knows.
 
As if anyone could have predicted his impact this season. He is arguably the best player in the league currently
 
It will be interesting to see how well he does next season.
Yes.

I just think Klopp's system gets the best out of him, no question. Wouldn't be as effective with any other manager. And regardless of what anyone says, Salah's inclusion has hindered Mane.
 
Bang average player having a good season.




Nah, hes a goal scoring beast. His first was hilariously good.
His third was amazing too. Ran rings around their defenders and no-one saw the shot coming when it did. Proper intelligent finishing.
 
For a long time we've missed out on signing players like him. We never take a chance and sign players who are under the radar. Everything at United is about boosting shirt sales and signing household names.

bollocks. in recent years we have signed martial, bailly, lindelof and depay. we complement these transfers with some big names (as any big club should).

its hardly "everything at united is about boosting shirt sales and signing household names". you guys are so dramatic.
 
I have no idea why Neymar would be considered for the Ballon D'or. He is an amazing player but the Ballon D'or is about what you perform in one year. Neymar has been better for the last few years and probably will be better in the coming years but this season he hasn't showed anything this year. Out in the CL and winning the French league isn't Ballon D'or worthy if you ask me.

Ballon D'or in a nutshell. It's an award given to the best individual player yet the performance of that player is less important than how many trophies his team has won.

It's like having a contest for best hamburger and then giving it to the Big Mac because McDonald's has made the most profit in the past year.
 
The only part that is knee jerking is the waste of money part. However, I have already admitted that I should have put at the moment at the end of that sentence.
Fair enough mate. He was a straight swap for Miki though so hardly a waste of money. We’ll know for sure at the end of next season!
 
Ballon D'or in a nutshell. It's an award given to the best individual player yet the performance of that player is less important than how many trophies his team has won.

It's like having a contest for best hamburger and then giving it to the Big Mac because McDonald's has made the most profit in the past year.

If the main reason for McDonald's making the most profit...

The performances aren't less important than how many trophies his team has won either, players have won it without winning anything.
 
Yes.

I just think Klopp's system gets the best out of him, no question. Wouldn't be as effective with any other manager. And regardless of what anyone says, Salah's inclusion has hindered Mane.

Mane has already surpassed his goal tally from last season.
 
Couldn't do shit against us at Old Trafford for all his hype. In fact, he was no where to be seen.
 
Mane has already surpassed his goal tally from last season.
Overall yes... though it's not really a direct comparison as 6 of his goals come in European competitions this year and he didn't play in Europe last year
A more direct comparison would be premier league
Last year played 27 scored 13
This season played 21 scored 8

Salah has been awesome this year and I think anybody will look worse in comparison but mane has still been very good this year

Mane....firminho.....salah

Is a great front three
 
If the main reason for McDonald's making the most profit...

The performances aren't less important than how many trophies his team has won either, players have won it without winning anything.

Main reason or not, the profit is irrelevant to the question at hand.
 
Still think it's Liverpool making him look good. He's got great movement and finishing, but his all around play places him a tier below Ballon dor contenders

Two of his goals today were individualistic goals where he dribbled past multiple defenders. Several of his goals this season were like that. You gotta give credit when it is due.
 
He is player of the season IMO. A lot of people have scoffed at this claiming it can only be De Bruyne but the Belgian has had quiet periods in the season. The difference is because City are so dominant that when De Bruyne is not on his game there is someone else to immediately pick up the slack like David Silva so it doesn’t get highlighted.
 
Couldn't do shit against us at Old Trafford for all his hype. In fact, he was no where to be seen.

DVD or it didn't happen. Actually I'm disappointed fans haven't made the famous film yet the amount of times they go on about it. I still think Pulis did better against us but admittedly you gave him a run for his money.
 
DVD or it didn't happen. Actually I'm disappointed fans haven't made the famous film yet the amount of times they go on about it. I still think Pulis did better against us but admittedly you gave him a run for his money.
At least we won't publish a book about a 2nd place finish. ;)
 
How the feck has he managed to score as many as Ronaldo did? We were a better team then than they are now. Maybe that's why?
 
How the feck has he managed to score as many as Ronaldo did? We were a better team then than they are now. Maybe that's why?

They have already scored 73 goals we finished that season with 80. But, we only conceded 22, while they have already conceded 34.
 
They have already scored 73 goals we finished that season with 80. But, we only conceded 22, while they have already conceded 34.

To be fair, we (Liverpool) have tightened up a heck of a lot, since before VvD came in even. If you think that 9 of those goals came in just two games pretty early on, plus 3 conceded to Watford on the opening day.
 
To be fair, we (Liverpool) have tightened up a heck of a lot, since before VvD came in even. If you think that 9 of those goals came in just two games pretty early on, plus 3 conceded to Watford on the opening day.

I wasn't saying that to take a shot about Liverpool(even though I can be prone to do that) I was just trying to put the numbers in context. And the fact that we lead the league with 80 goals that season and that City already have 85 shows how the PL has changed in the last 10 years.
 
It's pretty funny, football and the Premier League is funny. Liverpool are so, so great - we are so, so bad and boring, and we were five points ahead of them going into this round - I'm genuinely baffled, not gloating. Same with Tottenham, whom are four points behind us. Another funny thing is that Liverpool are at their best ever in the Premier League - and they are as far from winning the league as they have ever been, they are not even remotely close. The most funny thing is probably Fantasy, where I guess most managers expected 20 points maximum, especially those who didn't bother using their Free Hit to get some players from Stoke and Huddersfield. Thanks Mo Salah, I ended up at 80 points and even beat my nearest rival who used his Free Hit on a seemingly strong team. He didn't cap Salah though...
 
I wasn't saying that to take a shot about Liverpool(even though I can be prone to do that) I was just trying to put the numbers in context. And the fact that we lead the league with 80 goals that season and that City already have 85 shows how the PL has changed in the last 10 years.


Oh yes, I took it the right way mate. That was an incredible side you had. I remember ruefully because we finally had a great side of our own (Alonso, Torres, Kuyt, Gerrard, Mascherano, Arbeloa, Aurelio, Hyypia, Carragher, and Reina in goal, no.1 in the UEFA European co-efficient rankings.

Just our luck to come up against your brilliant mob! Plus the fact we had the likes of David (better than Ronaldo, Oh Dear!) n’Gog and Jermain Pennant etc making up the numbers! :)
 
I wish people would realize that Salah is so much more effective than previous years because of the conditions created by Klopps tactics. He wouldn’t have anywhere near as good a return in any other PL set up.
 
I wish people would realize that Salah is so much more effective than previous years because of the conditions created by Klopps tactics. He wouldn’t have anywhere near as good a return in any other PL set up.

And I would also like to add that he might still be a very good player for a long time he will probably never have a goal scoring season like this again.
 
I wish people would realize that Salah is so much more effective than previous years because of the conditions created by Klopps tactics. He wouldn’t have anywhere near as good a return in any other PL set up.


It’s partly that, but he’s also become a pretty incredible player this year. His close control and finishing are superb. There were glimpses of it last year but in a deeper role.

I know I’m a Liverpool fan but it is allowed to give credit where due. :)
 
I wish people would realize that Salah is so much more effective than previous years because of the conditions created by Klopps tactics. He wouldn’t have anywhere near as good a return in any other PL set up.

Could you not say the same thing for any player? Salah has come in and is going to score more goals than anyone in the history of the PL. You don't do that just because you're playing in a system that suits you. It's a factor of course - but individual talent is the biggest factor in his success.
 
It’s partly that, but he’s also become a pretty incredible player this year. His close control and finishing are superb. There were glimpses of it last year but in a deeper role.

I know I’m a Liverpool fan but it is allowed to give credit where due. :)

I’m giving him an immense amount of credit. He still has to finish the chances, and dribble past the opponents. Liverpool literally batter the opposition most games, constant pressing, always getting the ball out wide and it’s mentally and physically exhausting for the opponents. Salah benefits most from the work his teammates do off the ball. He also seems to be a pretty likeable fella too so fair play to him, probably grew up being told he’s too small and weak to make it, then got kicked in the preverbial nuts by mourinho, ended up at Fiorentina (who have pretty much been a nothing club since batistuta/Rio Costa left) and he worked his way to being a genuine ballon d’or level player. Maybe it is just the natural progression of his talent and he is this good, I just think in a team that doesn’t work the opposition so much he’d find it a little more difficult.

Prime example is Utd v Liverpool last week, we literally never gave you the chance to press, our defenders weren’t feeling the overwhelming rush of pressure and were able to stay focussed, hence salah having his worst game of the season. The reality is most teams fear the game Liverpool play because they don’t know how to deal with it, and it just ends up making it easier for Salah to be influential.