Sounds inconsistent, like Herrera.
Miralem Pjanić | Juventus confirm signing
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12 goals and 13 assists this season 
Well then we just alternate them to either get a string of consistent performances or the complete opposite
He's not really. And completely different type of player and a lot more talented. Though he does have ineffective games at times... but his technique and passing is almost always spot on. He is closer to fabregas (with much better dribbling) or Cazorla when he first came to the premier league. Or thiago from bayern. Not much between them quality wise, question marks would be could he adapt to the physicality and pace of the prem.
Would be one of the signings of the summer, for any team. Yes please!
Yeah thats the thing. Its not like he has poor or sloppy games, he just has quiet games now and then and you feel like he can do more because talent and ability wise he can be similar to someone like Modric.
On form he could play for Real or Barca. For 30m, we should bring him in quickly, what we do hopefully. Andre Gomes is fine, but he is a taller and more dribbling version of Herrera, while Pjanic's abilities remain unique on the market and in our team.
He mightn't be a permanent starter there, but he'd be very useful in rotation.
He'd have to do a lot more with his consistency to usurp Rakitic and take his place outright.
Even at Pjanics worst.. he can still be a consistent passer and always looking to control the game. Herrera doesn't have that natural tendency to dictate the tempo.
Even if we met the clause, it doesn't mean we're sure to get him.
He can afford to sit back, assess his offers, and then make the best decision for himself.
It's more down to who comes in for him than anything else, I'd think.
Unlike Herrera, Pjanic can turn a game at any given moment with a pass even if he's having an absolute stinker, which he rarely does.
Pjanic has quiet games over bad ones, that's not similar to Herrera. The problem for such good passers is that they don't have any excuse to not affect a game, that's probably why they get so rounded on when they don't deliver.
Has a mean freekick on him as well.
Pjanic at 14 goals 13 assists this season, whoscored rating 7.41, proper freekick specialist, key player for a team that finished 3rd in Serie A. That is more than good enough for us. At the quoted release clause of €38m, it is a no brainer. Why the feck people thinks a wildly inconsistent Andre Gomes that is not even the best player for a 12th placed team in La Liga and priced at €45-60m is the better option fecking confuses me.
i hate it when release clauses get leaked/mentioned, because a fair lot of them are complete steals for what our teams been lacking for years now.
He would cost the same as fellaini essentially and is attainable.
He would cost the same as fellaini essentially and is attainable.
As a ball-player, nah. As a force from midfield to have a difference on the scoresheet himself with goals and assists, yes. He's definitely got more ball-playing ability than a Lampard or Sneijder, but at their best probably not quite as ruthless.
Wouldn't mind him if it meant the end of League One style Fellaini tactics.
Wouldn't mind him if it meant the end of League One style Fellaini tactics.
Gomes' 2014/15 stats are plain. 4 goals and 1 assist in 31 starts. Average whoscored rating = 6.9. A notch below Pjanic.
Tbf I think he played more defensive in his first season. However Pjanic is higher rated atm I would say
He's more talented than Rakitic imo
Rakitic had a poor season as well for me. His midfield play was uninspiring and Messi had to drop back even further this season.
I always think Barcelona will look to replace Rakitic with someone better than him sooner than later.
Never heard of him tbh but looks like the complete opposite of what you'd imagine a deep lying midfielder to look like, if he's more of a 10 then surely the end of Herrera and Mata should he come here
There's a player in the Premier League right now who has very similar attributes to Pjanic - his name is Dmitri Payet. Look how his first season in the UK went..
Can't believe he's only just turned 26. His Lyon years seem so long ago.
Do you watch football?
A lot of his goals and assists came from FK, corners, and PK's. Considering half the players in our squad could be taking FK's, corners, PK's, I wouldn't say he'll get anywhere close to those numbers at United. I think Herrera is more well rounded, but Pjanic is quicker and has better passing range. If we are letting Mata go, then having Herrera and him will be nice. Pjanic for the weaker opposition or when chasing goals, Herrera against the tougher opposition or when ahead.
He's basically the copy of Fabregas. Great in set pieces, can be assist machine, has a great vision and passing. We don't have to rely on Blind every time we have a corner kick. Moving from Roma to Manchester United is also realistic.
To me hes a signing where if he comes im gonna be all
"get the feck in !! awesome coup to get him in we will challenge on all fronts... give him the 8 jersey"
where as if he goes to Barca or another Club im so gonna be like
" thank feck , he wouldn't have suited our style and would not be a good partner for wayne, we should be going for Gomes "
"get the feck in !! awesome coup to get him in we will challenge on all fronts... give him the 8 jersey"
where as if he goes to Barca or another Club im so gonna be like
" thank feck , he wouldn't have suited our style and would not be a good partner for wayne, we should be going for Gomes "
Can do both deeper and advanced. More center mid then #10. Also if you never heard of him then you must not watch any of serie a, and never watched Roma in the last 4 years or so. Hes been one of the best players in the serie a for a while
Really hope we buy Pjanić, 30m pounds not too much at all. He's only 26 too, best years are in front of him.
Given the current market, that release clause is a bargain price for a player like Pjanic.
It's no wonder that Barcelona, Chelsea and ourselves are in for him.
I'm guessing he'll choose to play with Messi in the Champions League and stay on the continent unless we offer him a significantly higher wage packet.
It's no wonder that Barcelona, Chelsea and ourselves are in for him.
I'm guessing he'll choose to play with Messi in the Champions League and stay on the continent unless we offer him a significantly higher wage packet.
You serious about that? Our main corner taker last season is our center back, and we have only scored 1 goal (?) from a direct free kick the whole season. We have scored 7 goals from set piece situations last season, which is only 1 more than Stoke City (surprise) who is dead last in the table. In comparison, Spurs have scored 17 goals from set pieces.
And Herrera for tougher oppositions? When was the last time he wasn't completely useless on the field?
so juve are after this lad now
Shame if we let this one go without a fight.
Juventus and Bayern are starting to get on my nerves with their impressive transfer dealings.
Juve need an attacking midfielder. They have been linked with Draxler, Gotze, Oscar, Isco and even Mata in the past.so juve are after this lad now
It seems that Juventus have Andre Gomes, James and Pjanic as targets for the AM position.
Edit: They are also linked with Mkhitaryan.
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Besides Bayern, Madrid and Barca... I thought I was going to be also worried about Juventus, City and PSG transfer deals.
But I can see other teams like Dortmund, Atletico, Arsenal and Chelsea signing quality players.
If Pjanic, Gundogan, Verrati, James, Renato Sanches, André Gomes, etc strength top teams, I would be okay if we manage to sign Pogba. Unfortunately, I think we are going to end up with a Portuguese midfielder/Mendes client.
I blame LVG for not letting Mata, our best free kick taker, take more shots. Also Mike Smalling was atrocious at heading with the amount of clear chances he had. And then there's Blind being played as our CB, his height will do wonders on set pieces. Basically LVG is dumb and we sucked at set pieces because of it. Here are the list of players who were primary FK, CK, PK takers on their respective teams before being in our first team squad.
Memphis
Rooney
Mata
Schweinsteiger
Herrera
Young
Pereira
Obviously if the plan is to sell a bunch of those players, then it makes sense to have Pjanic as a primary taker of set pieces.
As far as Hererra not being useless, someone he's managed to assist, score, or have the key pass leading to like 12 goals this year. Must be very useless considering we scored tons of goals with our attacking foobtall last year. LVG's best skill is destroying decent players by asking them to be something they are not. Pass, shoot, dribble, tackle, and heart. What more could you ask for in a midfielder. Granted he doesn't excel at all of those, but a great combination to have in a player if there is a smart manager willing to take advantage of it.
Herrera source?
https://www.whoscored.com/Players/71174/Show/Ander-Herrera
4 goals and 2 assists, no mention of "key passes". I goal or assist every 7 or 8 appearances. Hes not good enough mate.
Juve like midfielders as much as Fergie liked dodgy wingers. Gotta collect them all.
Yeah, blaming every single problem in the team and player's incapability to perform solely on LVG seems to be the perfect explanation.
Juventus bought Pjanic for €32m according to Twitter... who does that leave as options for the #10... Pogba doesn't count! Didn't Real Madrid say today they are keeping James Rodriguez too? I'm not too sure who else is on the market. Maybe Mkhitarayan can play there but I don't know if he's creative enough and he's in demand from other clubs too.
I'll help you. Go to the Pogba thread,
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