Still want him out. Playing Tavares at this point is criminal.
Mikel Arteta | Lego Pep watch
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He is shit isnt he?, he needed luck and VAR help to beat a bad team like us.
The one positive from Arsenal beating us and Chelsea is that this fraud gets to stay a while longer.
Hope Spurs grab 4th. Can't stand this pep impersonating cnut. Teams around him have been an absolute atrocity and they are struggling their way to 4th place. 90% of their fan base wanted him sacked then he started winning games, they started kissing his arse and once Spurs take 4th they'll be back to wanting him sacked again.
Hmmm, what's that other manager who used to influence refs a fair bit and used to have all their telephone numbers. I can't remember his name.
God I dislike Mikel Arteta.
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Yes he is just like that manager, you should keep him for 20 more years.
Yes he should clear out the turds we have here but I hope Eth doesn't follow his boring style. At least eth has his team play on frontfoot.
I kinda hope they finish top 4 now. Sure, the meltdown on AFTV will be hilarious if they don’t, but one top 4 finish should keep Lego Pep there for another couple of years, and they will do the grand total of feck all with that CL qualification anyway.
And it would keep spurs out of CL, we'll have a better chance of luring kane if he's not sacrificing cl football to come to us.
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Ok you can speak to me, but you better stay the feck away from Carlos.
I’m in seat 220 at the Liberty come quick
Ok you can speak to me, but you better stay the feck away from Carlos.
I’m in seat 220 at the Liberty come quick
Ole-esque win today
I read so much hate towards Arteta. Hate and bitterness.
Yeah, he has taken advantage of being Guardiola’s sidekick, so what? Media seems to love him for that reason and forgive him from time to time poor results, so what? He won a FA Cup with lots of luck and a Community Shield. United are years away from touching any silverware. Arteta is slowly driving towards a football method, most likely playing Champions League and giving opportunities to youngsters.
United had to prolong their suffering by hiring Rangnick and screwing chances of ETH to play in Europe. Fans were excited to see sideshow bob’s son delivering karate kicks a week ago for 10 minutes.
Finally, now some opportunistic people compare him to Emery. Emery had his chance and screwed up in PL and EL. He screwed up at PSG with much more money and his profile lets him work best for teams like Villareal or Sevilla. He has at least 10 years more working as a manager than Arteta so I think that placing that in comparison he has achieved a lot in just 2 years. Solksjaer wished he had won EL Mickey Mouse cuplast year.
Yeah, he has taken advantage of being Guardiola’s sidekick, so what? Media seems to love him for that reason and forgive him from time to time poor results, so what? He won a FA Cup with lots of luck and a Community Shield. United are years away from touching any silverware. Arteta is slowly driving towards a football method, most likely playing Champions League and giving opportunities to youngsters.
United had to prolong their suffering by hiring Rangnick and screwing chances of ETH to play in Europe. Fans were excited to see sideshow bob’s son delivering karate kicks a week ago for 10 minutes.
Finally, now some opportunistic people compare him to Emery. Emery had his chance and screwed up in PL and EL. He screwed up at PSG with much more money and his profile lets him work best for teams like Villareal or Sevilla. He has at least 10 years more working as a manager than Arteta so I think that placing that in comparison he has achieved a lot in just 2 years. Solksjaer wished he had won EL Mickey Mouse cuplast year.
We're going to do feck all, with or without Arteta. So I'd prefer if we do feck all while in the CL, rather than out of it.
We have the 5th best xG in the league this season. This myth that we just play defensive football is quite strange. People seem to think we're like Wolves, who are coincidently 18th in the xG table. We play on the front foot, we just don't have a striker of quality to finish enough chances.
Whilst I did actually hate how Arteta went to annoy the ref while he was looking at the screen, thought he was pretty pathetic there, the fact that people constantly find ways to have a go at him is quite funny.
The guy beat Chelsea and United, and deservingly, with a team with Elneny, Nketiah, Tavares and Cedric/Holding in, of which i'm sure all of you think are trash players and probably have said so throughout the season.
The Chelsea team we beat cost £230m. The United team we beat cost £295m. The Arsenal team in those games cost £195m.
We had 3 starting XI players missing (Tierney, Tomi, Partey), Chelsea had 3 players out (Kovacic, Rudiger, Chilwell), United had 3 (Shaw, Fred, Pogba).
We were equally as weakened as both of teams, yet we won both games with an xG of (Ars) 4.7x2.7 (Chel, Utd). But, apparently he only won both games because of the faults of the other two sides..
Seems to be a very common thing that whenever we win any game ever, it's just because the other team were bad apparently. One day people will realise this can't be the case for every single game.
If you have Conte at the helm, him combined with CL football might be enough to entice the calibre of player that can see you start to consistently challenge for top 4 every year.
Arteta? Not so much. So, yeah, if you make it, enjoy it (the first time you make the competition in 6 years?), but from a strategic pov, the chance of Arsenal becoming a consistent top 4 team is miniscule, with Newcastle and their oil wealth also now in the mix.
Exactly, he is perfect for you lot. Champions league done, Epl trophy next.
You guys hardly played scintillating football today and United have been pretty much crap. Did you see United's defending today and even then on a different day we could have won today. It doesn't matter how much each team cost, you lot have also spent good money so let us stop this bs that you are working on Burnley's budget. What matters is context, this United players have no business to even be competing for top 4.
Credit to arteta if he finishes top 4, I already said you cannot fault him for United being crap. But trust me this is the worst United side I have ever seen in my lifetime.
Nobody ever says he's perfect, he messed up massively with our team vs Brighton, but he's a new, young manager who is learning also, which again people ignore.
He'll make mistakes, it's more how he learns from them which is what i'll judge him on.
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No we didn't, which is fair enough, but we played well enough to win. We won't play top football every game, we aren't City or Liverpool and we aren't really close atm, so not sure who is expecting us to play that football every game.
Nobody said we're working on Burnleys budget, my point was people are making out United and Chelsea were weakened and we took advantage. My point is we were just as weakened.
Our depth is tragic and we don’t have a decent striker on the roster.
We were lucky in each game but Arteta managed to get 6/6 against Chelsea and United while relying heavily on four field players that are barely PL standard in Nuno, Cedric, Elneny, and Nketiah.
We were lucky in each game but Arteta managed to get 6/6 against Chelsea and United while relying heavily on four field players that are barely PL standard in Nuno, Cedric, Elneny, and Nketiah.
Arteta is such an animated character on the touchline. I don’t even think all that animation is genuine. Seems abit fake to make him look like Peo/Klopp.
But united are poor is my point irrespective of injuries. Even if Shaw was fit it wouldn't have made any difference. Our dressing room is broken and even everton beat us and norwich would have also if not for a 37 year old freak. So let us take this away that beating this version of United is some kind of amazing feat. As is said above we shouldn't be anywhere close to top 4 fight. This has been a shocking season for United and their is no covering up.
As for chelsea well they looked awful as well and it seems they have nothing to play for in the league but it shouldn't matter. Full marks to arteta and the team for getting 6/6. I have been arteta's biggest critics here but I won't shy away in giving credit where credit is due. Whether he can take you guys to the next level is something I am not sure.
3 years into the Arteta rebuild. Really?! Can’t say I’m impressed or particularly concerned. Even with an interim manager, no real coaching staff and with the club in free fall still competing pretty easily with this lot. Same with Spurs.
There's no doubt he's taking Arsenal in the right direction. The progression is slow but it's there. If they finish top 4 it'll be a great achievement considering their state last few seasons, and they can build upon it from here.
Out of the Ole/Lampard/Arteta competition that was discussed when they were all appointed at their clubs, Arteta has been the clear winner. He didn't start as brightly as Lampard or Ole but his team has been progressing slowly and gradually while Lampard and Ole started well and collapsed massively later on.
Out of the Ole/Lampard/Arteta competition that was discussed when they were all appointed at their clubs, Arteta has been the clear winner. He didn't start as brightly as Lampard or Ole but his team has been progressing slowly and gradually while Lampard and Ole started well and collapsed massively later on.
Let's see how he deals with having European football again next season. Their league performance may suffer.
They aren’t great now let’s be honest
Honestly i wouldn't consider sneaking a 4th place "great", considering all the time and investment the club has put into Arteta, and how the other contenders for 4th place blew it as well.
Also, Arsenal has barely played any other competition for how long now? It would be an "okay" achievment, not a "great" one.
it’s just papering over the cracks
Yes, without pawson today they would’ve conceded defeat by 4-1 or 5-2 something.
But I’m good if these wins keeps him at arsenal for another year. They’re lucky but they don’t know.
The best bit is that he’s saying it would be a great achievement considering how badly they’ve done in the last few years. Obviously not “great” when you compared it to the many years when they had any manager other than Arteta. “Average” would be a better description.
Beating us is no great shakes, but they were utterly unconvincing stumbling to the result.
The haranguing of the ref on VAR, and geeing up the crowd as the ref was doing it, was massively cnuty though.
The haranguing of the ref on VAR, and geeing up the crowd as the ref was doing it, was massively cnuty though.
If they do make top 4 they will struggle in the league next season when juggling with the CL. They have benefitted from no European competition this season.
There are other clubs in the league that have far more resources though. I don’t think it’s realistic to look at turn of the century arsenal and compare them to now without also looking at the context. If there are 4 teams in the league that can each spend £100m (very rough estimate here) a year more on wages then breaking into that top four is a real achievement. I’d be very surprised if they can go further than that though, it’s a big ask.
Without Pawson, we'd also have played 1/3 of the game with ten men.
Can't point out Pawson's shortcomings that benefitted them without mentioning the shortcomings which benefitted us.
Last time Arsenal finished 4th was in 2016. Their legendary manager, Wenger, finished 5th and 6th in his last 2 seasons with the club. Emery finished 5th. Both of them had far better team than the current Arsenal squad.
This squad is mostly young and promising players and there's not any big name player in there any more. Their forward line today had an average age of 21-22. The oldest in 23. Their 2 CBs are 24. There's no Ozil, Sanchez or Auba whom the previous managers enjoyed having in the forward line in their prime.
Their lineup today :
https://www9.0zz0.com/2022/04/23/17/661387999.jpg
This squad is about to finish 4th for the first time in 6 years. It's a great achievement for the club and a step in the right direction.
Meanwhile we have Sancho, Ronaldo, Bruno, Matic, Varane, De Gea starting for us today and we're about to finish 6th.
The context is them investing more money in the squad than than all of those clubs (apart from City and United) going back several years.