No-one is denying at the end of the day it's still a results driven business. The only difference is the amount of patience owners & fans will give to see improvement & achieve certain targets. If Arsenal don't improve on 8th this season, Arteta will be quite rightly under pressure.
Mikel Arteta | Lego Pep watch
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Have Brighton ever dominated anyone as completely as they dominated Arsenal today?
I must've been watching a different Ramsdale last two seasons, really good save at the end.
This is without question their best back 5 so need to stick with it baring injuries.
This is without question their best back 5 so need to stick with it baring injuries.
They are no mugs, this calander year they've beat City, Liverpool, Spurs, Leicester & Leeds & drew with the likes of Chelsea & Villa. As many said on the match thread, think Potter is going on to bigger & better things soon.
They were in a different league to Arsenal this evening, that’s for sure.
Seem in a different league to a lot of teams when they play them. Their problem for the last couple of years is that they just struggle to finish.
I’ve wanted Arteta out since last season and I see no reason to change that view but the board have decided to back him no matter what so there we go. It was clear today the difference between a well coached team and us.
And I thank them for that, without all the Arse fan channels to provide some comedies life as Utd fans would be pretty unbearable this past decade.
Another clean sheet, 3 clean sheets in 4 games, this guy is the real deal.
Has not have…and the premise of your question is as risible as asking why Man Utd didn’t lose to Everton
Nope, I think they were in the same league…
Great contribution.
Aaaaand you’ve topped it.
Beyond results, how’s the football under Arteta? It seemed very direct and reliant on counterattacks vs Spurs but I haven’t watched Arsenal against “lesser” sides.
After an awful start to the 2021-22 season, in full relegation mode...it seems Arteta will finish 8th again. Glad to see he's still a reliable midtable manager.
It's perfect if you're having trouble sleeping.
How about you sign ole ?
Not great, or certainly not consistent anyway. The defence seems improved from the start of the season now everyone is fit, attack is pretty inconsistent mind you, perhaps what you get with young players. He needs to find a way to get them clicking better now, & to try & find some consistency.
5 goals in 7 games is insane. Even crazier when 3 of those came in a mad 30 minute spell against the main rivals where adrenaline and momentum probably played a part.
Arsenal could need him, for example.
We played incredible football against Spurs in the first half… but their midfield was non-existent.
We looked to be transitioning to 4-3-3 with Partey anchoring Smith-Rowe and Odegaard as free 8s, but we then quickly abandoned that and reverted to 4-2-3-1 to incorporate Xhaka. With him out I’d like to see us try that again against weaker sides as it allows us to field all our best attacking players (Smith-Rowe / Odegaard / Saka / Pepe / Aubameyang). However, I can see why we wouldn’t risk 4-3-3 away against an in-form Brighton. They’ve taken a fair few points against side a lot stronger than us.
Overall, I think Arteta needs to settle on a system. We played 3-4-3 counter-attacking wing play to beat City and Chelsea on the way to winning the FA Cup. We then began the next season playing 4-2-3-1 with our play going through Ozil at 10 and that was working. But then he fell out with Ozil… but didn’t switch formation so we had a style of play built around a number 10 with our only player capable of doing a job there exiles to the stands. Then we started chopping and changing and he’s been doing so ever since.
If we think 4-3-3 possession based football is the way to go, we need to play that in 80-90% of our matches, possibly reverting to a double-pivot against stronger teams. Otherwise we’ll never develop the partnerships and patterns of play required for it to work.
Arsenal's standards have plummeted. I'm seeing fans justify a draw away to Brighton.
Proper midtable antics.
If Leicester get their act together and WHU, Villa & Everton maintain their course, then could see Arsenal finishing around 8th again.
Makes me sick. They don’t get a trophy for beating their rivals. Beyond a disgrace
Wenger reincarnate managed to nick a point from Brighton and their fans seem to be pleased with that. How the mighty have fallen. Truly is incredible to see.
Think I've said before I'd take him if Arteta doesn't work out. First really came to my attention when his Ostersund team beat a Wenger team in a Europa League game at The Emirates & he's done well against us ever since.
Not arrogant enough to say we have a divine right to win every game. Going to Brighton isn't easy as lots of better teams than us have found out.
It's not to say I'm not disappointed in how we played, we need to improve but sometimes you just need to accept a draw & move on. It's funny DutchCruijff mentions Leicester because Brighton have already beaten them. We know the other teams mentioned are our 'rivals' this season but there's 4 points between 2nd & 10th & nearly every team is dropping points all over the place so think it's a bit unfair to single us out, just shows its a tough league.
Its absolutely mental what an easy ride and how much positive media Arteta gets. A good performance against Spurs (who themselves were utterly appalling) and we had an entire week of plaudits being given and how its the start of something big.
Completely outplayed and dominated yesterday against Brighton, who were incredibly unlucky not to get the three points, and I have yet to see anyone bat an eyelid or raise any questions. In fact the narrative seems to be about how they have kept another clean sheet.
Truly bizarre.
Completely outplayed and dominated yesterday against Brighton, who were incredibly unlucky not to get the three points, and I have yet to see anyone bat an eyelid or raise any questions. In fact the narrative seems to be about how they have kept another clean sheet.
Truly bizarre.
10 points after 7 games - 3 wins needed to reach the target.
So tonight is a must win game not merely for the symbolics
Arteta getting a lucky break with the absence of Zaha..
Hard-fought point against a local rival. Fair play.
Damn they equalized .. I assumed they'd lose.
Funny to see Ars fans slating Partey, he looked incredible for Atletico against Liverpool and I personally thought we should go for him.
Must be nice, we could never get a point.
Lucky to get a point today as Palace were the better team. Having said that, Arsenal only 3 pts behind us having already played Chelsea, City and Spurs.
Villa could be the final nail in the coffin for me as far as I'm concerned with Arteta.
Fair play for keeping the faith but he's massively outstayed his welcome at this point surely?
Never get the point of these posts.
Look at the table, there about 10 other teams about 3 points behind or couple in front, going from villa up to Brighton........it's no achievement being 3 points behind a misfiring United early into the season
You do realise that they lost first 3 fixtures of the season? Arsenal are another big club with a questionable manager - it is a reasonable comparison to make.
It's just not good enough.
Alternatively they have 11 points from 8 games after having faced the 14th, 15th, 17th, 21st and 23rd placed teams from last season. They've scored 7 goals in 8 games.
It's really not......would make sense if it was more than half way thru the season and we were only 3 ahead of them up the table......they currently bottom half of table.......as I say their is about 8 teams between us all same points down to villa who 4 behind.........not impressive at all or a good comparison to get excited about.
Same crap AFTV where posting about earlier likes it massive achievement we could be one point behind title contenders United.........seriously low bar this early into season.
What's funny about that ? The goal is clearly on him, he messed up. Fans were cheering him again 3 minutes later anyway.
I'm not sure this formation works with him being the only defensive player. The Xhaka injury is forcing our hand but i'd prefer to see 2 DM and maybe alternate Saka and Pepe on the right for a while.