Mikel Arteta | Lego Pep watch
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Yeah, it pretty much sums it all. At certain phases, they will come to your half with high pressing. They make the use of channels on both sides, either saka or anyone on left. They hope the opponents made mistakes. They score through saka and their left back. The rest phase of the games are just neutralizing the opponents in midfield. They score odd goals and they also concede odd goals.
Sorry but he’s deluded. I’ve been listening to the MOTD podcasts and I’ve never heard anyone as fond of their own voice, continually coming out with crap as he does and he’s so biased it’s untrue.
One of the best things about Arse losing is always looking at Piers Morgan's Twitter account.
Hm. Guess success is a word up for interpretation. I just know when we won EL in 2017 - but finished 5th in the league - I preferred that end to the season over finishing 2nd trophyless - so I won't act like a hypocrite now, since I felt like that back then.
I can see it's not sustainable to be crap in the league and then compensate by winning EL on an every year basis - and as mentioned, it doesn't fool anybody's perception if the winner has been as bad in the league as Arsenal this year - but for the players to get a trophy, a nice confidence boost, and a better seeding for CL - to me - sounds more appealing than finishing second with nothing.
Don't get me wrong I wouldn't trade United's season with Arsenal's - should Arsenal win - because Arsenal has been very poor and we haven't. But the outcome on paper - winning EL vs. winning nothing in the top 4 - is more appealing to me - especially since it's been almost four years since last trophy. Hope it makes just a tiny bit of sense.
Our (hopeful) 2nd place this season is a lot less bleak than the one under Jose though, obviously?
Ian Wright is a fecking balloonYes its demonstrable and measurable progress. Joses effort was the best of a shite bunch and miles behind Abu Dhabi
I actually want Arsenal to win the Europa so his job is secure. The thought of him getting sacked is actually worrying.
Oh I can fully see the match being an absolute shitfest, with them getting an 83rd minute goal as a corner deflects in off Xhaka’s arse
He is a lucky lucky manager who hides behind refs, owners, deluded fans, players. But again just watch how press rave about him when he wins the europa.
That's a bizarre take given we're still in it. You do realise their owners don't give a shit about being successful and their squad is mediocre (it's a Europa League standard squad)? The fact they've appointed a manager who had nothing like the requisite experience and is seemingly not up to the job doesn't mean if they replace him they're suddenly going to be a problem.
This sums it up pretty succinctly
The manager is a problem but not the biggest problem at the club. The squad is suffering from underinvestment over a number of years and as a result the players are pretty mediocre. When they have onvested they have made a mess of it, two of their biggest name players pkay in the se position and pepe and oartey havent really improved tbe team
Why on earth would you want Arsenal to win the Europa League when we're still in it?
That's mental
Imagine how much crap OGS gets for picking up 66 points in 32 matches after losing once in 4 months - and imagine how much crap he would take here if United had 46 points in 33 matches - and were 9th in the table.
I think you've forgot we are still in the Europa.
No no - we have to look at the bigger picture - getting Arteta to stay as Arsenal-manager is more important than us winning
What nonsense is this
How is he not sacked?
You can't pretend to be Pep if you've not won anything as a player or a manager. Manage your players for fecks sake
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Even if they sack him, Arsenal are only heading in one direction right now. What sane manager would touch them?
No no - we have to look at the bigger picture - getting Arteta to stay as Arsenal-manager is more important than us winning
....and they go to Champions league next season and get spanked. Sack right after.
Worth losing the Europa title?
I've said it before. It may sound ridiculous but If Ole looked like Arteta and didn't have that nice guy demenor there'd be more people backing him
Aside from PSG and Barcelona, they have got the most expensive front 3 in Europe. Like us, they have spent money, especially over the last 3 years, but the signings have been poor.
75 million for Pepe is just ...
Ole's a likable guy, Arteta's got that Pep autism look about him which makes people think he's a genius. It's too weird
Agreed. Elite levelIm convinced that his greatest achievement(after winning the FA cup, of course) is the lowering of the expectations at the club, Wenger got slaughtered for much less, so did Emery.
He has managed to convince a good portion of the fans that he is actually a great manager, who is just "misunderstood", got to give him creds for that, a real masterpiece.
To be fair, managing that arsenal team would probably have even the most laid back placid bloke twitching a bit
I sometimes get the feeling Arteta avoids a lot of stick because he was that smart, creative midfielder - that people somehow thinks he is destined to be a great manager because of it. It was a bit of the same with Bryan Robson - it was like it was determined that he would be a great manager.
But in fairness - that Arsenal-team isn't great to be honest
But in fairness - that Arsenal-team isn't great to be honest
Arteta wasn't even anything special as a player though.
He was a journeyman midfielder who spent most of his career at Everton. He only joined Arsenal when they stopped being a threat at the highest level too, it's not like he was regularly winning the title or competing for the Champions League.
I think the main reason he gets so much leeway is he was Guardiolas assistant, which is stupid but that's what I think is happening. Plus he wears nice designer coats and jumpers and generally looks the part on the sideline.
It's amazing how successfully he's managed to lower expectations where Arsenal might be finishing in the bottom half of the table and it still feels like he has most Arsenal fans on side.
I would agree with you if you were comparing us finishing 2nd vs lets say Arsenal 5-6th challenging for CL place, improving and winning the EL. But they are 9th right and most likely will finish 10th, and are actually getting worst than the last season. In this current situation, I would so on, their season wouldn't look more appealing than ours even if they won they win the EL. But ofcourse, if you remove all this context and look at it on paper, then yeah.
I'm happy him being in a job and not being under much pressure but it is interesting how Arsenal fans don't seem overly concerned with him. I'm in a few groups with several Arsenal fans and most of them seem to just be blaming the owner and players.
It's not to say he hasn't done any good, as he won the FA Cup and Arsenal can be difficult to play against but not sure how if can be deemed anywhere near acceptable.
It's not to say he hasn't done any good, as he won the FA Cup and Arsenal can be difficult to play against but not sure how if can be deemed anywhere near acceptable.
The worst I have ever seen them in my lifetime. They are a disgrace. Proper mid table club at the moment.
Would be a monumental failure to allow these cnuts win the EL. I don't even want to imagine it.
Emery and Arteta aren't solutions to their problems probably but Wenger stayed for too long imo and got them into this situation (as well as the board/owners). They were poor in his last season (63 points, no trophies) and would maybe be even worse if he stayed for another season. Selling Alexis and buying Lacazette and Aubameyang were last good things Wenger did before leaving.
Yeah, the delusion around Arteta is ridiculous. Arsenal are in deep trouble, shit owners, shit set up and decision makers, shit manager and a messy squad.
Forget challenging for titles, the way things are they could be looking at not even being able to be in Europa league with the way things are going.
Not sure why they gambled with Arteta, someone who has never managed a team of his own before, and giving him this mess as his first job.
They won’t win it.
They’d lose to either United or Roma.
That’s if they even get past Villarreal, Emery might have something to say about that
This is obviously the best shape that arsenal have been in in terms of player personnel but it's not like arteta has had no responsibility in it, he has made some iffy choices in terms of players in and out of the club but even still should he be this far off from west ham and playing far worse as well
They have to sack him , like they're 10 in the league and Villarreal are outplaying them so hard. He is by far the worst coach in the League with 0 experience. It would be mad to give him another Season