Michael Oliver

Lol what are you lot on about? Of course that's a penalty, you can't jump into someone from behind like that.
 
Minimalist said:
Lol what are you lot on about? Of course that's a penalty, you can't jump into someone from behind like that.
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On reply he won the ball it looked like. He did clatter him though. Probably actually is a penalty but I'd be livid of it was given against us.

Livid if I didn't get it
 
I don't get why they keep letting this kid referee on school nights.

The little brat is totally out of his depth in the PL
 
Has been more than decent in this game. Maybe apart from the Sterling penalty. Has got a lot of tricky decisions right- like the Mane trip, the Yaya yellow(which although was a borderline red, it would've ruined the game), even the penalty decision is more or less understandable
 
anant said:
Has been more than decent in this game. Maybe apart from the Sterling penalty. Has got a lot of tricky decisions right- like the Mane trip, the Yaya yellow(which although was a borderline red, it would've ruined the game), even the penalty decision is more or less understandable
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Yeah he never gives those reds
 
lem8sh said:
I'd agree usually with that but the fact is Oliver made it very clear that the next cynical foul, esp on Hazard was gonna result in a booking, five seconds later Herrera trips him stupidly. Can see why he booked him.
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That's speculation.
 
lem8sh said:
I'd agree usually with that but the fact is Oliver made it very clear that the next cynical foul, esp on Hazard was gonna result in a booking, five seconds later Herrera trips him stupidly. Can see why he booked him.
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He made it clear to who? Seemed to me he was telling Smalling that Jones was on thin ice. It's not like he gave Smalling 20 seconds to pass any information around to the rest of the side.
 
Why are we still debating Herrera's red? 2 fouls, neither a certain yellow. People making claims that he had to go because Jones fouled Hazard a few times... Was he stupid for attempting a (non-violent) challenge while on a yellow? Is it in the rules that there's a period of time where fouls count double if the referee talks to the captain? He got two games because he's already been sent off for slipping.

It's incredibly harsh, and unlucky, and it ruined a high profile game f football... regardless of how much you want to defend the ref.
 
Missed 2 penalties tonight (one for each team), and a fair few yellow cards. A friend of mine saw a red one (that i for that matter didn't notice).
Really terrible ref overall though.
 
lem8sh said:
Both of Herreras fouls were bookings it's time to get over it.
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Ffs he made two fouls in 30 minutes and got sent off. The 2nd one wasn't worth a booking.

And that after his farcical red card earlier in the season for slipping.
 
Decomposing In Paris said:
Why are we still debating Herrera's red? 2 fouls, neither a certain yellow. People making claims that he had to go because Jones fouled Hazard a few times... Was he stupid for attempting a (non-violent) challenge while on a yellow? Is it in the rules that there's a period of time where fouls count double if the referee talks to the captain? He got two games because he's already been sent off for slipping.

It's incredibly harsh, and unlucky, and it ruined a high profile game f football... regardless of how much you want to defend the ref.
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Reminds me of Rafael against Bayern. Some say it's harsh, others say it's the player's own fault. Split the forum right down the middle back then too.
 
Thought he did really well today. Made a couple of mistakes but even on replays they weren't clear cut. Very fast game with players sliding all over the place and very few obvious mistakes. Even the Sterling chance wasn't clear at the time. They really do have an impossible task
 
Regulus Arcturus Black said:
He made it clear to who? Seemed to me he was telling Smalling that Jones was on thin ice. It's not like he gave Smalling 20 seconds to pass any information around to the rest of the side.
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Nor does he have to. 7 fouls committed in just over half an hour and the ref then calls over the captain, you can be certain Oliver made it clear that the next cynical foul = yellow. Unfortunately Herrera happened to be booked already.
 
lem8sh said:
I'd agree usually with that but the fact is Oliver made it very clear that the next cynical foul, esp on Hazard was gonna result in a booking, five seconds later Herrera trips him stupidly. Can see why he booked him.
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So you are saying that he booked Herrera (and gave a red card), for Jones' earlier foul?
 
sunama said:
So you are saying that he booked Herrera (and gave a red card), for Jones' earlier foul?
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What. Herrera tripped Hazard, if he wasn't on a yellow already then there would be no qualms about the booking. It was a harsh second yellow but I'm not surprised it was given considering the amount of fouls committed in the opening half hour, particularly on Hazard.
 
As the manager said, a referee of fantastic potential...

...a long way from realizing that potential though IMO.
 
anant said:
Has been more than decent in this game. Maybe apart from the Sterling penalty. Has got a lot of tricky decisions right- like the Mane trip, the Yaya yellow(which although was a borderline red, it would've ruined the game), even the penalty decision is more or less understandable
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What one team going down to 10? Yes he wouldn't do that... Wait he just did last Monday and that's the problem with him.
 
lem8sh said:
What. Herrera tripped Hazard, if he wasn't on a yellow already then there would be no qualms about the booking. It was a harsh second yellow but I'm not surprised it was given considering the amount of fouls committed in the opening half hour, particularly on Hazard.
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4 fouls on Hazard? Plus if that's a booking why did he not book worse offences later on in the game?
 
Lawman said:
What one team going down to 10? Yes he wouldn't do that... Wait he just did last Monday and that's the problem with him.
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I am talking about today's game. Had he sent Yaya off, the game wouldn't have been this entertaining
 
lem8sh said:
What. Herrera tripped Hazard, if he wasn't on a yellow already then there would be no qualms about the booking. It was a harsh second yellow but I'm not surprised it was given considering the amount of fouls committed in the opening half hour, particularly on Hazard.
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Individual players are supposed to get a final warning, not the whole team. Oliver would have been speaking to the captains to calm the teams down. The foul by Jones (and the rest) just before Herrera should therefore have borne no relevance to Herrera's but Oliver clearly did, and hence it was poor refereeing.
 
NextSeason said:
Individual players are supposed to get a final warning, not the whole team. Oliver would have been speaking to the captains to calm the teams down. The foul by Jones (and the rest) just before Herrera should therefore have borne no relevance to Herrera's but Oliver clearly did, and hence it was poor refereeing.
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it was ridiculous refereeing. He gave the tie away to Chelsea and ruined an important match.
 
He got the penalty right, and I think the 2 early pen calls (Firmino and when Aguero went to ground). Those 3 aside he missed the pen for Winjdalum when Toure went to ground and the Sterling one was actually two fouls in a nano second, pen and a red for Klavan intentionally pulling back Aguero or just a pen for Milner catching Raheem. He messed up so many little decisions though in the end both teams came out with a fair result.
 
padr81 said:
He got the penalty right, and I think the 2 early pen calls (Firmino and when Aguero went to ground). Those 3 aside he missed the pen for Winjdalum when Toure went to ground and the Sterling one was actually two fouls in a nano second, pen and a red for Klavan intentionally pulling back Aguero or just a pen for Milner catching Raheem. He messed up so many little decisions though in the end both teams came out with a fair result.
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I don't know, the Sterling pen was the first incident. Goal there and you've got a different game that favors City. I thought City got the worse rap overall and I'd be pretty pissed had United been in their shoes that game.
 
Snow said:
I don't know, the Sterling pen was the first incident. Goal there and you've got a different game that favors City. I thought City got the worse rap overall and I'd be pretty pissed had United been in their shoes that game.
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Well yeah but I think the balance of the game was a draw. I think the Sterling one came after Yaya's silly going to ground. As I said had the ref spotted the deliberate pull on Aguero in the same incident instead of watching the tackle on Raheem (which he missed either way) Liverpool are down to 10 and Yaya would be taking the pen.

We had 2 potential pens go our way in our own box (one wasn't one imho was) before the Clichy one so I guess Liverpool fans will feel hard done by like ourselves. He's a shocking ref though.
 
padr81 said:
He messed up so many little decisions though in the end both teams came out with a fair result.
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Its his lack of consistency which leads to this. I honestly think he creates issues for himself
I think the big decisions in the first half he got majority right.

I dont think he can handle big games though especially when he has to make that decision (and when he does, it gets to his head).
 
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