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Do you want Ozil at Manchester United?


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When on form he makes football look ridiculously easy, will be a great coup for whoever can get him on a free, or perhaps a reduced fee in Jan.
 
What about playing him as a right forward, with the license to roam, like he does for Arsenal?

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Ozil bad is overstated and blown out of proportion without considering the context. Ozil is not the type to be the leader and get everyone perform. He is an enhancer who boost the core players quality. Clearly even at his best he is not very good defensively. Even in so called bad form, overall he's still up there as one of the top creative players in the league. So on average he is still very good player to have even if the top form sustainable for whole season. Definitely better than what Mkhi has shown this season.
He's better then Mkhitaryan obviously, but it's not overstated. He's been class this season but before it he was invisible in plenty of big games, wouldn't put in the effort, and just seemed lazy and too Berba like. Obviously he's really talented, and it doesn't matter then he's not the best defensively. It's about working hard on and off the ball which he's doing this year and wasn't really before. Busting a gut to get in better positions and being more consistent and decisive with his on the ball contributions as he's generally more focused and motivated.
 
He's better then Mkhitaryan obviously, but it's not overstated. He's been class this season but before it he was invisible in plenty of big games, wouldn't put in the effort, and just seemed lazy and too Berba like. Obviously he's really talented, and it doesn't matter then he's not the best defensively. It's about working hard on and off the ball which he's doing this year and wasn't really before. Busting a gut to get in better positions and being more consistent and decisive with his on the ball contributions as he's generally more focused and motivated.

He has the most assists of any PL player since he arrived in England.
 
What about playing him as a right forward, with the license to roam, like he does for Arsenal?

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Valencia Bailly Jones Shaw
New CM - Matic - Pogba
Ozil Martial
Lukaku

Yeah would definitely be this. Would like that other center mid to be a creative one as well, to do what Pogba does on the left but on the right. Looks really well balanced and gives Martial and Ozil license to roam and the freedom to attack. Martial in a Sanchez type role probably brings out his best too. All for it, if this isn't a one off few months because he's playing for a new transfer.
 
Only been watching the 2nd half but he’s been an awesome creative spark from what I’ve seen. Light and day ahead of what we’ve got. Him and Pogba would take the piss
 
He has the most assists of any PL player since he arrived in England.
And? He's a brilliant player, I'm not saying otherwise. What I'm saying is that he performs in spurts and before this season, was consistently trash in big games or tough games in general.
 
I think he has no interest in coming to United. He lives in London, he already plays for a club that will not win the league - not this year, not next year either. At least that is what I think players in general would feel right now.

Also, why would he go to United and play for Mourinho? This is not Real in Spain is it, he will not be given the same attacking freedom. I think it’s strange Barcelona are not hard in for him on a free!
 
He's better then Mkhitaryan obviously, but it's not overstated. He's been class this season but before it he was invisible in plenty of big games, wouldn't put in the effort, and just seemed lazy and too Berba like. Obviously he's really talented, and it doesn't matter then he's not the best defensively. It's about working hard on and off the ball which he's doing this year and wasn't really before. Busting a gut to get in better positions and being more consistent and decisive with his on the ball contributions as he's generally more focused and motivated.
The point is about motivation. And as I stated, even with so called lazy, doesn't give a shite perforamce he still strangely (not quite) up there as one of the top creative players in the league. Just take this season so far as example. KDB has been flying from the get go when Ozil started badly, yet look back Ozil is not much less short in creative stat (I know KDB play a bit deeper, City's dominance offset abit of positional disadvantage).

He has been working harder lately, but that doesn't mean he is always lazy. As I explained, his style is based in adjusting to the team quality which Arsenal as a whole ain't all that. When Arsenal is outclassed, he would amount to nothing (he can still create with the right situation, but not enough to win the game: big game performance). I watched quite fair amount of game from City, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal every season, and my opinion is that his bad is not really that bad: liability, feel like playing against 11+ half players due to one of the player keep shitting himself and give advantage to opposition
 
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Looks like he's starting to feel the pace.
He got to be given a free pass in a side with no responsibility.
His lack of pace is my only concern
 
Have to admit when I’m wrong, he’s been brilliant this season. I’m all for his signing now. Throw some money at Arsenal and try and get him in January.
 
Yep we'd be nuts not to go for him.
 
He was decent tonight but it doesn't change the fundamental issue with him in this Untied team. @Walters_19_MuFc pretty much showcased the only way we could use him as it would be moronic to feck with Pogba's best position just to play a #10, and then you have to take into account that from that RWF slot there are better options.
 
What about playing him as a right forward, with the license to roam, like he does for Arsenal?

De Gea
Valencia Bailly Jones Shaw
New CM - Matic - Pogba
Ozil Martial
Lukaku

As new CM: Wilshire! For god sake, look at how he ran the show against Chelsea, he would be perfect as a second playmaker with Matic and Pogba. And second of all: He's a a free agent in the summer.
 
Imagine if we signed Ozil & Wilshire on frees :lol:

Feck it, let's bring Can in to replace Fellaini too while we're at it.
 
What about playing him as a right forward, with the license to roam, like he does for Arsenal?

De Gea
Valencia Bailly Jones Shaw
New CM - Matic - Pogba
Ozil Martial
Lukaku


I would love this tbh. Especially with Pogba and Martial interchanging positions on the left side, one coming narrow, the other causing havoc out wide. As for Özil, that's definitely his best position.

The big question is on who's capable of filling that right-hand side, we need someone who's not shy of contributing in the final third, has an eye for a good pass but at the same time isn't so lightweight so at times he can hold the fort with Matić. A 2013 Vidal is the type of player we need, a proper box-to-box player with an eye for goal but not sure who's out there atm.
 
As new CM: Wilshire! For god sake, look at how he ran the show against Chelsea, he would be perfect as a second playmaker with Matic and Pogba. And second of all: He's a a free agent in the summer.

He didn't run any show.
 
He's an absolutely scandalous player - Just pure class.

I cannot believe there are people here who would stick their noses up at the idea of signing him.
 
I thought he didn't turn up in big games???

He's been good more often than not in big games. Last season vs City and Chelsea in the FA cup. This season in every big game he's put in good performances.
 
As new CM: Wilshire! For god sake, look at how he ran the show against Chelsea, he would be perfect as a second playmaker with Matic and Pogba. And second of all: He's a a free agent in the summer.

Not the worst suggestion in the world but I think his frailties are similar to Pogba, he's not really able to stick to position, he's at his best when he has that license to roam as a playmaker and drive forward. Feel what we need is someone that's able to share the responsibilities with Matić but also be able to make quick silky passes to improve our transitional play.
 
He didn't run any show.
He took the ball and either passed it straight through the Chelsea midfield to Özil or just took it and ran right past them on a number of times. He's also not afraid to get into tackles and such. He would fit the bill perfect, atleast if you ask me.
 
I would love this tbh. Especially with Pogba and Martial interchanging positions on the left side, one coming narrow, the other causing havoc out wide. As for Özil, that's definitely his best position.

The big question is on who's capable of filling that right-hand side, we need someone who's not shy of contributing in the final third, has an eye for a good pass but at the same time isn't so lightweight so at times he can hold the fort with Matić. A 2013 Vidal is the type of player we need, a proper box-to-box player with an eye for goal but not sure who's out there atm.

Could Savic fill that role? Potentially?
 
I think he has no interest in coming to United. He lives in London, he already plays for a club that will not win the league - not this year, not next year either. At least that is what I think players in general would feel right now.

Also, why would he go to United and play for Mourinho? This is not Real in Spain is it, he will not be given the same attacking freedom. I think it’s strange Barcelona are not hard in for him on a free!
Probably an extra 50-100k a week! Plus good chance at the league next season and highly likely to be in the CL.
 
I think he has no interest in coming to United. He lives in London, he already plays for a club that will not win the league - not this year, not next year either. At least that is what I think players in general would feel right now.

Also, why would he go to United and play for Mourinho? This is not Real in Spain is it, he will not be given the same attacking freedom. I think it’s strange Barcelona are not hard in for him on a free!

I think that's the big reason why I think he's moving, he's taken it this far. Why would you wait until 6 months of your contract expiring to decide that you want to commit your future to the club? No doubt there have been many offers for renewals during this period of time that he's shunned. I'm not saying he's coming United but I'm very confident that he wants to leave Arsenal because of how far he's taken it.

Don't understand the second point, Zlatan and Matić joined weaker sides than they were previously in for Mourinho as well yet trusted the man, why wouldn't Özil? Mourinho is a manager that really understands him as well. He won't try to change the player like other managers have tried (Wenger, Ancelotti) but he'd get the best out of him by playing him in a system where he'd thrive and be protected.

Mourinho said:
"I learned with him because we were together for quite a long time, that he's a very sensitive boy.

"He needs confidence. He needs trust. He needs to feel that people is with him. When he's on the pitch, every time he touches the ball, the ball goes beautiful.

"And he’ll always finds the right man on the right place. So, sometimes, you don't see him, sometimes he doesn't go to screen many, many times. But when he goes he is a special player.

"If you are expecting Ozil to be super aggressive and running miles and miles side to side and to show great enthusiasm and aggressivity - this is not Mesut .

"If you are waiting for somebody who every time he touches the ball, the ball smiles and every time he makes the pass the ball goes in the right direction with the right speed and intensity - this is Mesut."
 
As new CM: Wilshire! For god sake, look at how he ran the show against Chelsea, he would be perfect as a second playmaker with Matic and Pogba. And second of all: He's a a free agent in the summer.

I personally wouldn't go for Wilshere, but I agree that a playmaker is the type of midfielder we should be targeting. Veratti, Thiago, Modric, etc.


I would love this tbh. Especially with Pogba and Martial interchanging positions on the left side, one coming narrow, the other causing havoc out wide. As for Özil, that's definitely his best position.

The big question is on who's capable of filling that right-hand side, we need someone who's not shy of contributing in the final third, has an eye for a good pass but at the same time isn't so lightweight so at times he can hold the fort with Matić. A 2013 Vidal is the type of player we need, a proper box-to-box player with an eye for goal but not sure who's out there atm.

Goretzka would have probably fit that profile, however, it seems he's on his way to Bayern.

That said, instead of an all action box to box midfielder, I feel we need someone who's going to get on the ball - someone to control the game for us. As @Ljungster said, a second playmaker to help Pogba. Then if we want to solidify things a bit more, put Herrera in.
 
IF he maintains this form beyond this last season for Arsenal, then absolutely would be worth it. I'm still wary that he's giving his all for one last big transfer and would then revert to how he was the past 4-5 years, being ineffective when the going gets tough and not working so hard. But yeah. Would definitely try and bring him in now instead of the summer. Also this commentator mentioned Arsenal rumoured to being ready to accept bids of 30m or so for sanchez, and if that's true, then we should go all out for that.

For sure, Ozil has been playing better this season. Even if he plays like his old self, he still can improve us, especially in the games against smaller teams, I am not sure he can help us that much in bigger games though.
Regarding Sanchez, I think we should try to get him in some 25M. The league title is gone, but the FA cup and champions league is still there. There is a lot to play for and I think Sanchez could make a difference.
 
I thought Ozil was fantastic last night, finding little pockets of space in behind the Chelsea midfield and causing them real problems, with clever passing too. In fairness to him, his performances have been really good for the last few games Arsenal have played. It might just be while he has his future sorted out that he is playing well again but fair play to him recently.

If we could get him on a free, and he played for us the way he has been these recent games, it would be an absolute no-brainer for me.
 
He was decent tonight but it doesn't change the fundamental issue with him in this Untied team. @Walters_19_MuFc pretty much showcased the only way we could use him as it would be moronic to feck with Pogba's best position just to play a #10, and then you have to take into account that from that RWF slot there are better options.
Would still go for him on a free but this has some truth. He'll make class plays and stack up assists but he isn't the type to seek the ball in different areas to ochestrate possessions (something Pogba himself is often criticised for on here). The result is a #10 that could look invisible when the team is struggling.

Don't know if Jose values possession enough to care but we'll still need to fill this gap.
 
I think if he's not staying at Arsenal, his options become more limited. The irony is in the same way Jose ended up managing us, where else where he's not been that's keeps his profile at the highest level and is a viable option at this point of his career? Arguably he played is best football managed by Jose. He's a quality player for free who knows the prem. I think he could play a number of positions and equally whilst we might think about where they might be, it might be clearer when we sign other players.

Sometimes the stars just align for some signings, and this definitely is one of them. I'm as confident as I've ever been that he'll sign. We might even give him the 7 shirt.
 
As new CM: Wilshire! For god sake, look at how he ran the show against Chelsea, he would be perfect as a second playmaker with Matic and Pogba. And second of all: He's a a free agent in the summer.

Totally agree with getting Wilshere. He's very underrated and he'll be free (or cheap if we decide to act early). He's a quality player and he plays in just the right position that we need.

I'm not quite as keen on Ozil. For me, he's just not the kind of player who will fit into the kind of team we are trying to build.
 
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