Where Mata and Lingard played today.
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Where Mata and Lingard played today.
Think Ozil would be the one person who would be allowed to have a true free role.
He's probably 10 times better than Pogba in the 10 role.
So if we signed him I would not expect him to playing out wide. Jose likes his wingers to have defensive input and you're just not going to get the best out of Ozil by asking him to come back. Well he did that for Jose in La Liga but he had stamina issues.
I mean we could play in asymmetrical formation where Pogba and Ozil are both allowed to do what they want with minimal defensive duties, although I doubt it.
433 - he'd drift inside
----------------DDG---------------
Val------Jones------Bailly-------LB
----Herrera----Matic----Pogba----
Lingard---------Rom-----------Ozil
No. He is not.
Please don't. Pogba has barely played this season and we've all seen how he's been missed, the more quality players added to the squad the better, don't worry about how we'll fit them all in
You just have to hope we have this in the bag, the saving on his fee could be £70-80 M + in this market.
yes he is....
You know Pogba isn't even a number 10 right?
Pogba isn't a true #10 like Ozil but he's more an AM than a CM for sure.
The best Pogba's version was with Juve where he never played with a #10 except Peyrera who was a sub...
If you want to get the best of Pogba, you don't need Ozil ! But maybe you think that Ozil is a better player and we shouldn't build the team around Pogba...
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Attacking midfielder does not mean you're playing a 10 role.
Pogba is great coming off the left into space but lets not go over the top here. Ozil has been a mainstay for Germany in a number 10 role since 2010. It's preposterous to suggest otherwise. Pogba is not a 10. Ozil is!
Ozil doesn't play in a number 10 role for Germany since a few years...
And if you want to get the best of Pogba, you don't sign Ozil or another #10 but 1 or 2 CM like Marchisio and Vidal !
But yeah if you think that Pogba isn't good enough to be our talisman, you don't build the team around him and signing a player like Ozil makes sense
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If we get him we shouldn't play him as a 10 in front of Matic and Pogba. I said the same to those suggesting Zlatan should play there - it'd leave Matic with too much to do and would cause all sorts of problems defensively.
Surely Ozil can do what Mata does but better?
I like Mata but he cam be very limited with height strength and speed.
I like Mata but he cam be very limited with height strength and speed.
If we get Ozil or Dybala so Rashford and Martial will get fewer games if we adapted to 4-3-3, Lingard is in hot form. I can't see us getting Dybala if Lingard continues form like this, perhaps big signing CM roles to free up Pogba more with less defensive?
He could comfortably do Mata's job but better. Worth it as a free upgrade.
Yes, please.
Genuinely the buzz will be back at the club if Jose can get him this month, like all big signings would
yes he is....
You know Pogba isn't even a number 10 right?
With a #10 in the line up Pogba has to play too deep. We didn't pay 90m for a DM. We should be playing a 4-3-3. The only way that we should ever play with a #10 is if we play a 4-4-2 with a diamond midfield. Otherwise our best player is wasted (Pogba). We also need to start playing a proper 4-3-3. We are playing more like a 4-5-1 with our wingers coming back too deep to defend. We should be pressing from the front with the front 3 not sitting deep in our end...
Don't understand why we need ozil at the moment. Too many ATM at the club
We have no player in his position that is as good as him.
We don't have the movement for Ozil
If your forwards move a lot but the players behind failed to get ball to them, then they would end up bei knackered and stop running. Sure we need to improve our movement, but our creativity to get the ball forward is quite dull. So many badly bad key passes especially that ruin the momentum. We heavily depend on Pogba. Pogba can't play every games for one reason or another, and everyone can have off day. I dread seeing we being toothless when Pogba ain't available/ not at his best.
How different was he or was it for him under Mourinho at Real Madrid? I’m still wary of how he disappears. Would he not continue that problem here?
What people need to understand is, we are low on numbers, for quality attackers in the wide flanks. We’ve seen in these oast few weeks that we lack real depth. And what makes Ozil more appealing than anything is, he’d be on a free. If we’re to try and purchase a player of his quality today, we’re talking easily the best part of £70m.
He would have looked sensational in place of Mata in the game yesterday.
We need to stop buying attacking players just because they're available on the cheap (like Falcao, Ibra and Mkhitaryan) and start buying the right players. Ozil is lazy and would never be tolerated at a top level team.
Aye, lets forget about that little blip where he was sensational at arguably the biggest team in the entire world.
Would signing him mean a midfield two? Something we all don't want.
Where Mata played yesterday. Start on the right but comes inside whenever we have the ball. He'd be much much better than Mata.
If we had a front four of
Pogba Lingard Ozil
1 Striker (Lukaku / Martial / Rashford)
could that work? Would Ozil be able to play on the right?
Pogba Lingard Ozil
1 Striker (Lukaku / Martial / Rashford)
could that work? Would Ozil be able to play on the right?
Can only teams outside of England sign a pre-contract agreement with him? If so, we can’t get him for free until the summer?
Not only with height strength and speed but his ability to play the risky pass. Mata takes the safe option 90% of the time. There have been numerous occasions where he totally ignores runs by Lingard/Lukaku/Martial/Rashford and opts instead to spread play out wide instead. Ozil is different; he loves the risky pass and he's good at it which is why he's one of the best creators in the league.
Yeah, only outside England.
Then I would say the chances of us getting him on a free are slim to none then?
Well I don't think he has any other options apart from staying at Arsenal. I think he was linked with Barca but they're in for Coutinho so.
FWIW, I don't think we will be getting him in January.
This is exactly the problem, Pogba will be forced further back and Matic will continue to have too much work to do defensively, we saw the way forward yesterday, unless Ozil is shoved into the Mata role then I don't see him being anything but a a like for like in continuing to spin wheels with this set of players, and rather than buy him to play in a front 3 we should be looking for a more dynamic option who is more natural in that role.
Ozil on a free is a no brainer either way. Ozil is superior as a CAM to anyone we have in the squad, so if Mourinho wants to play 4231, we've improved with him there. Against other opposition, we may revert back to a midfield 3 to allow Pogba to roam forward, while being defensively secure. If that is the case then in the current team, Ozil would be better than Mata on the right, as he's faster, stronger and frankly a better play maker. Naturally, I'd also want a more dynamic right winger as well, but that player can come in for Miki and picking Ozil over Mata is an easy decision for me.
No pace for the counter, no wingers. In short, predictable
Investing in someone like Savic would be a much better idea than getting Ozil in, even if its next to nothing. We have seen time and again how good Pogba can be in that free role or the #10 when played in a midfield 3. Why bring in another #10 and push Pogba back when he can be so much more effective closer to the box. Having Savic and Matic clean up behind him will make us so much better.
Let’s not forget the huge drop in performances when Pogba is injured/suspended.
Fooball is more that a first eleven. Ozil would guarantee assist in most games with and without Pogba.
It’s a no-brainer!
Fooball is more that a first eleven. Ozil would guarantee assist in most games with and without Pogba.
It’s a no-brainer!
I find it interesting that he had his knee injury before the transfer window opened.
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