Jose is a better motivator than Wenger, we'll see that quite evidently when Ozil joins.
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If Pogba can play discipline enough in the midfield to cover Matic, playing Ozil as CAM in 4-3-3 will surely useful. But sadly to say, Pogba still not mature enough for playing like this.
Pogba should learn to play as an anchor ala Vierra or Yaya. Roaming forward only if there is a chance and focus more in balancing the midfield. Matic is not Superman, he will be burned shortly playing alone in the midfield.
In the short term, i think Ozil could be the solution for our attack while we are looking for CM specialist.
Just my 2 cents.
Pogba should learn to play as an anchor ala Vierra or Yaya. Roaming forward only if there is a chance and focus more in balancing the midfield. Matic is not Superman, he will be burned shortly playing alone in the midfield.
In the short term, i think Ozil could be the solution for our attack while we are looking for CM specialist.
Just my 2 cents.
The bounce pass/finish he does, any of our other players try that and they'd probably break their own ankles and be out for the season.
Pogba playing anchor would be a waste of money and talent. And yaya toure wasn't an anchor either, he was an attacking player.
I personally don't agree with the notion that Özil requires a disciplined CM in the team in order to shine. If we look back to his time at Real Madrid or even the German National team, he usually meshes well with a proper box-to-box midfielder, which was Khedira at that time. Özil loves to pick out passes to midfielders running from deep, providing a goal threat. Now, with a static midfield just there to cover him, I don't think he would be as effective. Pogba is also much more of a goal threat than Khedira ever was, so him making those deep runs provides an extra option for Özil to pass to, or give him a better shot at picking out on of the forwards. Even at Arsenal, I think he plays his best with Ramsey in the team, who fulfils a similar role to Pogba. Granted Khedira, has more defensive awareness than Pogba or Ramsey, but I still think Özil relies on these box-to-box midfielders making runs, providing an extra offensive outlet to get the best out of him.
A midfield trio of Matic, Pogba and Özil comes very close to the Alonso, Khedira and Özil axis Mourinho preferred at his time in Madrid and Mourinho being Mourinho, I don't think the balance (in defense) would suffer as a consequence. On the contrary, Pogba is an ideal partner to Özil in the way the approaches the game in my view.
Actually Ozil may seem slow but when he pulls out a trick to get past a player he has a very quick burst of acceleration and is faster than he looks.
The good thing about Ozil is that even when he has a crap game is that he'll create some good chances or at the very least assist some goals. If you're expecting him to score the goals at 0-0's or when you're losing that's not what he's about. He can do it but it's not his thing so to speak. Thats a Sanchez sort of thing.
What he does offer though usually is the perfect final ball or chance for a top player or striker to put away at the 0-0's or in the games you're losing. He's a creator first and foremost and will normally come up with some brilliance to unlock defenses. The only thing is that his way of doing it isn't dribbling through multiple players and shooting, its using intricate passing and world class movement to open up spaces for himself or others and then getting a goal. This normally requires someone to be on his wavelength though.
I'd rather keep Ozil than Sanchez tbh and I know a lot of Arsenal fans do. I'm not fussed at losing Sanchez but I'd like to try and keep Ozil. Overall I think he'd be a big help to Lukaku and Pogba.
Actually, from what I've seen of United. I feel that your attacking play tends to lack or not result in a lot of chances because it looks like you'll just have players inside the box and one on the touchline with one or two outside the box looking for a cross or pass in.
I think Pogba would score more goals or improve his game if he wasn't the one who is tasked with finding the pass or goal. If he can play B2B and stay back helping with the defending but then make late runs into the box, I think he'd benefit massively. I think the only reason he doesn't is because he probably doesn't trust anyone to find him if he goes into the box. I rarely ever see anyone making those late runs in utd games. I see it at City and Barca and other top teams but not you.
With Ozil, he'd find him. The late runs also free up space for Lukaku or Martial or whoever else.
Well the way we currently use Pogba, doesn't seem to be working.
Pogba for his price tag as a central midfielder, should be able to play in a 2 or a 3. He has the attributes to anchor and drive from deep, and I think the signing of an Ozil (or Ozil type) to play as our advanced midfielder as Pogba as B2B would work wonders. Would ease the burden on matic also, as we are overworking him massively.
Ozil could pick passes that our current midfielders currently seem incapable of.
It could work
Again, Özil would be brilliant for Pogba. I can hardly think of a player who would better help him shine on the pitch. The idea that you need a couple of water carriers to allow an attacking player to shine is ridiculous - do you think Messi benefits more from playing with Iniesta or Mascherano?
He's also clearly not slow, I'm not sure how you can think that if you watch him.
He's also clearly not slow, I'm not sure how you can think that if you watch him.
I dont think people actually watch him play. There is a narrative out there about Ozil and people ride off the back of that.
Box to box midfielders s aren't anchor men. Anchor men aka holding players stay put in front of the defence a la matic or carrick.
you need constant movement for Ozil to be a success, we dont have it here so would be a pointless signing for me. put him in the city team and he would instantly go back to one of the best in the world at that level
I just feel that the further upfront (in the midfield) Pogba plays, the better. He is by nature, a creative attacking player. I feel he is wasted when pegged back.
I thought Jose realized this late last season and early this season when Pogba became a different beast. But recently, he's been pulled back a bit more and asked to create from deep. I even saw Matic pushing further forward in a game or two.
This guy is so good. Be excellent against Palace so far.
Wouldnt take him even he pays us to join and might be totally wrong with view but best of all, some people think he will be a world beater if he joins us. Can already imagine him fitting in our beautiful attacking play in final third 
Wouldnt take him even he pays us to join and might be totally wrong with view but best of all, some people think he will be a world beater if he joins us. Can already imagine him fitting in our beautiful attacking play in final third
Lot of people share this opinion. Why do you not feel he would work here? Who would you rather have? To me he is the best option to get the most out of Pogba and Lukaku?
Because he represent everything Arsenal stands for and i rather stay far away from it. Another thing is that i hate formation with number 10 anyway so there is that.
Fair enough. I just don't understand the dislike for him. We have a forward in Lukaku who needs chances created for him because he can't create them out of nothing (like Ibra from last year). We also have a midfielder that wants a free role and needs a partner to play with so to speak. I just don't see a negative to getting him on a free when he would improve the squad.
To do that when doing a pass is one thing but to score when the keeper is charging at you is out of this world. The talent this guy has is absolutely fecking superb!
World Class
Sometimes but not enough
True world class player. I just wonder if he still fancies it? For free though, is a no brainer.....
What suggests he doesn't fancy it though? I'd say he's quite easily Arsenals best player this season and has looked well up for it. Compared to Sanchez who couldn't be fecked half the time.
Not watched him loads last season but my Arsenal friends are saying the upturn in his form is because he's in the shop window and the downturn of Sanchez is he's already in his head at city...,
They're talking rubbish about both.
Like I said, I wouldn't know. I'd have both.....
They are reasonable assessments, you have to admit. Whether it's true is open to debate. But you'd have to say both have treated the club and fans disgracefully at various times. I doubt if either had behaved the way they have at Utd or Liverpool they'd still be playing. It says a lot about Wenger's man management
—————-de Gea—————
———Lindelof—-Bailly———
——————Matic—————-
Valencia———————Perisic
————Savic —Pogba——-
———————Ozil—————
———-Lukaku——martial——
———Lindelof—-Bailly———
——————Matic—————-
Valencia———————Perisic
————Savic —Pogba——-
———————Ozil—————
———-Lukaku——martial——
Very attacking team, looks good but I think we lost our chance with Perisic.
Don't agree at all. I think both have been fairly professional. Sanchez loves a strop but that's about as bad as it's got. It's not as if United or Liverpool have never had players run their contracts down or try to force their way out either, so not sure what you really mean?
You know we are managed by Jose Mourinho, right?
Good job after that formation. We’d get destroyed.
Did Van Persie represent everything Arsenal stands for?
No
Ozil works fine with Pogba.
Mourinho system is one defensive midfielder, one box to box midfielder and oneattacking midfielder.
Matic is DM, Pogba is B2B and Ozil is AM.
Mourinho system is one defensive midfielder, one box to box midfielder and oneattacking midfielder.
Matic is DM, Pogba is B2B and Ozil is AM.
That's not accurate though as Pogba isn't a true box to box, he's way too indisciplined and at times naive defensively, he's closer to the attacking #8/#10 hybrid, he played his best ever football with Pirlo holding and controlling with a true box to box in Vidal next to him, you put him in with not only a #10, but a lazy one who has no physical competitiveness and it's asking for trouble. Matic is already starting to look overworked, at least with Lingard or even Mkhi in there the #10 drops in and helps out.
Pogba is box to box player with more attack oriented just like Kante is box to box with more defensive role.
A box to box by definition is good at both ends of the pitch, Pogba is a liability defensively a lot of the time, he puts the effort in but he's often caught way out of position leaving Matic isolated, the smart thing to do is get another CM in there with them, a CM that offers something in attack like a Saul or Goretzka, but who is also more solid and will help Matic and leave Pogba extra freedom, rather than highlighting the weaknesses further by adding in the type of player that wont help at all when we don't have the ball.
Obviously he isn't strong defensively but he isn't weak either. He contributes at both ends which makes him box to box player. Just check some of the runs he makes and his starting position when we just win the possession.
He lacks defensive discipline/concentration though just like how other box to box players who are more defensive lacks pogba's passing range and ability on the ball.
I watch all of our games, Pogba tries hard to get back whenever we lose the ball, but time and again teams waltz through the center of us as he's not there, he busts his ass to get back but it's not ideal and we should be freeing him up a lot more, not buying players that put even more defensive weight on him. Pogba is not a box to box, he's not a #10, he's a bit of an enigma and one we need to build around by giving him as much freedom as we can.
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