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Do you want Ozil at Manchester United?


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Personally think Arsenal are stupid for holding onto Ozil and Sanchez from January onward.

Is what, 18 games or so of league football from Ozil or Sanchez worth 30m?

You think it's stupid for a club to keep two of their best players? They wanna get back into the top 4....I think those two players would help them a lot.
 
and people think we couldn't do with a player of his quality, laughable, it's well and truly laughable.

I don't think people question his talent, it's his mentality that is very much questionable and how frequently he can actually be arsed to turn it on.
 
I don't think people question his talent, it's his mentality that is very much questionable and how frequently he can actually be arsed to turn it on.
This, and his age, and the fact that we have a couple of talented but underperforming #10's at a similar age to him already. I'd take him if we got rid of Mata and Mkhitaryan, as he's better then both but getting him in addition to them is pointless. Sell those 2 and just have Ozil, and don't force everything around him because there are games that he just isn't suited for.
 
Apologies, I misread what you had posted - I thought you were implying the players had all the power


Completely depends on the wages they wanted really.

If they wanted 20m per year then 10m transfer fee, or a more reasonable 14m per year, 20m.

In the summer the players can't risk
Let's say we were to offer Arsenal money in January what sum a) would you be happy with us spending?
b) what fee Arsenal would reasonably accept?
 
I’d take Ozil in a minute as our 3rd midfielder who can link up with attack.
I’d also go for Luiz Rose and VVD in January.
Next summer a base of the team being

DDG
Valencia Bailley Luiz VVD Rose
Matic Pogba Ozil

Is a magnificent base to start off a strong team add Lukaku and Martial/Rashford and we just need a talisman.
 
I’d take Ozil in a minute as our 3rd midfielder who can link up with attack.
I’d also go for Luiz Rose and VVD in January.
Next summer a base of the team being

DDG
Valencia Bailley Luiz VVD Rose
Matic Pogba Ozil

Is a magnificent base to start off a strong team add Lukaku and Martial/Rashford and we just need a talisman.

Would rather Rojo than Luiz given his age and use his fee on a right back.
 
I’d take Ozil in a minute as our 3rd midfielder who can link up with attack.
I’d also go for Luiz Rose and VVD in January.
Next summer a base of the team being

DDG
Valencia Bailley Luiz VVD Rose
Matic Pogba Ozil

Is a magnificent base to start off a strong team add Lukaku and Martial/Rashford and we just need a talisman.

Thanks god you are not our manager.

"Let's blow 80m+ to buy 2 CBs when we already have 5 with the least goals conceded in the league"
 
Thanks god you are not our manager.

"Let's blow 80m+ to buy 2 CBs when we already have 5 with the least goals conceded in the league"

Yeah let’s not improve cause we clearly can’t improve. VVD Luiz and Rose look available and would improve us. This would give us the strongest defence in the league with the best GK. I’m all for keeping Rojo (he’s done ok) but would rather have VVD and Luiz as they have proved a step up in their performance levels over the last few seasons.
 
Yeah let’s not improve cause we clearly can’t improve. VVD Luiz and Rose look available and would improve us. This would give us the strongest defence in the league with the best GK. I’m all for keeping Rojo (he’s done ok) but would rather have VVD and Luiz as they have proved a step up in their performance levels over the last few seasons.
Give us the strongest defence in the league? We already have the strongest in the league. There's absolutely no justification in spending close to £100m on CBs who are not really better or an improvement on the ones we already have.
We should be talking Maldini and Beckenbauer levels if you are looking for an improvement.
 
Clearly a better option than mkhitaryan, Hope we can get him and sell mkhi in the january window itslef.
 
His age, wage and fact we are stacked in this position makes this deal very hard to see.

He is talented, his attitude and work ethic stink.

In a nut shell, we do not need another #10 who will perform 5-10 games a season and be a passenger for the rest. If we sold Miki, Mata and lingard I'd say yes. But that aint happening.
 
His age, wage and fact we are stacked in this position makes this deal very hard to see.

He is talented, his attitude and work ethic stink.

In a nut shell, we do not need another #10 who will perform 5-10 games a season and be a passenger for the rest. If we sold Miki, Mata and lingard I'd say yes. But that aint happening.

Why would we have to sell 3 players just to sign one of the best AM's in the world. To say he only turns up for 5-10 games a season is laughable.
 
I'd sell both Mata & Mikhi and sign Ozil + a RW.
Would balance the team more and allows us to sign another RB, LB and maybe a CM.
That's 5 players, which is a lot already
 
Get him and Griezmann in January. Sell Mata.

Martial—Lukaku—Griezmann
——-———Özil———————-
——-—Pogba—Matic————-
Rose—Rojo——Bailly—Valencia
—————DDG———————
 
Let's face it he would be a great addition in January. Miki and Mata get less time (sold in the summer) can only help us.

But it sounds like Sanchez and Ozil are not moving in January? So is it the summer? Barca in for him? He likes Jose so will put more effort in. High quality player..proven in prem. and on the International stage. Take a punt
 
Get him and Griezmann in January. Sell Mata.

Martial—Lukaku—Griezmann
——-———Özil———————-
——-—Pogba—Matic————-
Rose—Rojo——Bailly—Valencia
—————DDG———————

That team has everything!
 
A lot of Arsenal fans believe he is heading for Manchester United in January. I heard a lot of guys over here in Ireland who travel over to a lot of Arsenal games say this. I hope if it is true that he is more consistent with us than he is with the Gooners.
 
A lot of Arsenal fans believe he is heading for Manchester United in January. I heard a lot of guys over here in Ireland who travel over to a lot of Arsenal games say this. I hope if it is true that he is more consistent with us than he is with the Gooners.
Hopefully we can get him and I wont mind if United sell mata and mikhi. We have Lingard who seems content to be squad player as no. 10 backup.
 
I'd be happy to let Mata and Mkhitarayan leave if it meant we got him.
 
I would be happy to get him in.

But the way he is playing now, now that he is in the "shop window", is a poor reflection on him. Either way if Mourinho wants him, I'd trust him on this one.
 
Ozil is a bit of a fair weather player isn't he. How many of his 47 assists came in tough games, how many points has he won for his team with his goals and assists? Adding to the scoreline in a 5-0 game is nice and all, but it's not what you really need most over the course of a season.

Though, he'd most likely be a decent upgrade over Mata and Mkhi. They both seem to be nearly done here.
 
Yeah let’s not improve cause we clearly can’t improve. VVD Luiz and Rose look available and would improve us. This would give us the strongest defence in the league with the best GK. I’m all for keeping Rojo (he’s done ok) but would rather have VVD and Luiz as they have proved a step up in their performance levels over the last few seasons.

Why stop at the defence? Apart from DDG they can all be improved! SIGN ALL THE PLAYERS
 
Could be a good buy and although wages and signing on fee would be big, it should leave use with funds to buy a truly top draw attacker.
 
Why would we have to sell 3 players just to sign one of the best AM's in the world. To say he only turns up for 5-10 games a season is laughable.

Erm because we have 3 players for the position he plays in? 4 if you count Zlatan as a #10, 5 if Pogba plays there.

To say he only turns up for 5-10 games a season is accurate, calling him "one of the best in the world" is laughable.

He's spent half his time with Arsenal looking like he couldn't be bothered, putting zero effort in.

All I'm saying is we can do better. A lot better
 
Erm because we have 3 players for the position he plays in? 4 if you count Zlatan as a #10, 5 if Pogba plays there.

To say he only turns up for 5-10 games a season is accurate, calling him "one of the best in the world" is laughable.

He's spent half his time with Arsenal looking like he couldn't be bothered, putting zero effort in.

All I'm saying is we can do better. A lot better

I really cant be bothered to debate this.

Just want to ask you, who do you think we can realistically get that is a better AM?
 
Erm because we have 3 players for the position he plays in? 4 if you count Zlatan as a #10, 5 if Pogba plays there.

To say he only turns up for 5-10 games a season is accurate, calling him "one of the best in the world" is laughable.

He's spent half his time with Arsenal looking like he couldn't be bothered, putting zero effort in.

All I'm saying is we can do better. A lot better
Couldn't be bothered and with zero effort he still has the most assists in the PL in that time and created the most chances. Jeez if he is pulling that off then he is quite clearly one of the best in the world.
 
I don't buy that he's coming to United in january, but it would be pretty great! He's also the favorite player of a mate who supports Arsenal and hates United with venom :lol:
 
Not wanting Ozil doesn't equate to thinking Mkhi and Mata are good enough, I don't know why so many people keep jumping to that conclusion.
 
We need him badly, we have absolutely no one of real match winning quality in that position and we’ve needed it for 4 years. Probably more.
 
Going to be a handful this weekend but still dont want him.

How can you not want him in January? We absolutely need him and/or Mahrez. These are realistic, gettable players who would instantly improve our attack, it needs it.
 
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