You are highly overrating Ozil and Goretzka there.
Mesut Ozil on a free? | Orn: Ozil signs new contract worth 350k
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You are highly overrating Ozil and Goretzka there.
Is nice if we get ozil for cheap but i think he is more suited to la liga and barca would be perfect for him.No need to track back much..play with great players around him...not very physical..
I'd bite your fingers off for any of Pulisic or Malcolm considering the current situation. Apparently, Dybala stated he wouldn't want to play in the EPL according to the posters here. What do you make of it?
Looked like a banter to me.
Although he was great for Madrid in La liga, he's actually played and done well in the EPL. Btw, I doubt Barca could find a place for him.
Well things change all the time. Zlatan was never going to come to the PL but he's here. Obviously Dybala would rather be playing for Barcelona or maybe even Madrid but both are stacked and Barcelona are looking at Coutinho first. The only place Dybala would actually get game time would be at United and we out of the big teams in football can afford him. So things could change...
http://www.espnfc.com/blog/tactics-...goalkeepers-and-central-defenders-peak-latest
I like Mesut Ozil alot, but he do feels like another player we will soon have to adapt to carry. But with Zlatan and Carrick out next season, and few +30s left, we might have room for him. But considering his wage demand I dont trust that he will be cheap.
I like Mesut Ozil alot, but he do feels like another player we will soon have to adapt to carry. But with Zlatan and Carrick out next season, and few +30s left, we might have room for him. But considering his wage demand I dont trust that he will be cheap.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/manchester-united-face-missing-out-11581446
John Cross using his position as Unofficial Arsenal Spokesman to try draw out a cash offer from United.
John Cross using his position as Unofficial Arsenal Spokesman to try draw out a cash offer from United.
Come through Barca! 
Agreed he’s not good enough is he lets face it. But I cannot stand Matas defensive mindset... any man pulling on a shirt for Man Utd and pulling out of tackles all over the park like he does it’s a disgrace. Nice guy, technically good player but we’re I was brought up that’s unacceptable. Too soft
Both of them need to go really. Expecting a Summer of changing Mkhi and Mata for Griezmann and Ozil/Bale.
I'd prefer signing Alexis Sanchez for 30m in January over Ozil,actually !
Just need to double the wages Citeh are offering......
Just need to double the wages Citeh are offering......
At least when Ozil goes ‘missing’ he can still pick a pass. That puts him over Mkhitaryan and Mata
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"Unless something unbelievable happens" - like handing in a request or a big bid?
Personally think Arsenal are stupid for holding onto Ozil and Sanchez from January onward.
Is what, 18 games or so of league football from Ozil or Sanchez worth 30m?
Is what, 18 games or so of league football from Ozil or Sanchez worth 30m?
I don't think it's stupid. If they can help them make top 4 then it's all worth it. It's not like clubs will be willing to pay a lot for a player with 6 months left on his contract.
SportBild say Chelsea are now the ‘hot candidate’ for Mesut Ozil.
Can't see him going to Chelsea. Think it will be us for the Mourinho factor or him going back to Spain (a country he loves living in).
Morata, Hazard & Ozil would be great.
Math can't be your strong point.
They could have sold them for a combined fee of ~£100m in the summer. City were bidding over £50m for Sanchez alone. Real Madrid made €58m (or around ~£50m) for winning the CL last year and they were by far the highest earner. Arsenal have been averaging ~€30m earnings form CL participation, usually going out in the last 16 phase. They could still get £30m for each if they sold them in January, and get more than double the money that they'd lose by not being in the CL next year.
Not to mention the replacement cost. How much would it cost in the current market to get the next Ozil or Sanchez at prime age? They cost a combined £70m when they were bought, now it'd be what? Double that? Most likely. Are Arsenal going to sink ~150m in the market to replace them? 0 Chance.
This is all some posturing from Arsenal to show that they won't cave in to players. In the meantime they're cutting off their nose to spite their face. When Wenger eventually gets moved on, the new manager will have a mammoth task in making the Gunners competitive again with the terrible management from Wenger in the last few years. He has filled the squad with average or highly injury prone players that never get moved on, while losing his best players on a free.
Don't really see it. They have Fabregas in that position who's similar age and as good a playmaker as Ozil in my opinion (if not better). And they have Pedro if they want someone with more of an attacking threat or Willian if they need more versatility. Ozil is adding nothing to that unit that they don't already have.
Chelsea need a decent CM and a RWB more than anything.
I guess they'll have to go play football elsewhere?
I just can’t imagine Arsenal let him and Sanchez walk for free in the summer. He will join us or Barcelona in January.
The fee will be the interesting part.
The fee will be the interesting part.
Sweet.
Did you even read the post I replied to before you typed a wall of text? Reading can't of your strong point
We are talking about January sale, not last summer. They won't get 100m for them in January so they may as well take a gamble and hope they help them make top 4. Also it's not just about CL money. Making top 4 can help them attract players who won't join without CL football, such as Lemar last summer.
Whats the point of strengthening rivals and weakening your squad for the sake of 30m, in a window where you can't really sign any quality replacements?
Try reading the post you respond to first.
Only skimmed the thread but some of you guys seem to not realise that the pair of them dont HAVE to go in January. They have ALL the power here.
That said Arse dropped a huge cajone by not selling last summer when they had at least "some" leverage
That said Arse dropped a huge cajone by not selling last summer when they had at least "some" leverage
I don't think that's necessarily the case here in that the pair have ALL the power here, if that were the case then both would go in Winter without question. The 30 odd million they might muster in sales would just as easily be recouped with a top 4 finish and CL revenue - moreover, the club presents a strong message that they won't be bullied into transfers.
Of course, had Sanchez been sold for a tidy fee in summer, they could've made reinforcements with that money and go from strength to strength rather than trying to cull the transfer market during the World Cup
ANY fee that is paid for them means they lose it in the summer.
30m etc means they personally will be offered a contract worth,perhaps, 20m less.
Apologies, I misread what you had posted - I thought you were implying the players had all the power
So press links to United, Barca and now Chelsea - seems like an agent working very hard.
Not just that... they messed up big time last year by not selling. They can't sell in Jan... it not worth the little money they will receive and the added risk of not making the top 4 for two seasons in a row. Their sponsors will probably have clauses to reduce certain payments i.e from 40m a year to 20m etc so they could potentially lose even more money as well as another year away from the elite competition. Every top 4 club is scared to turn into a Liverpool if they drop off the pace.
Looks like that's the case. His agent is linking him with variable teams to leave the door open for him to leave to anyone next summer. He's 100% going to leave no doubt about that.
Joining Chelsea will be a strange option though. Don't think he'll be an upgrade on Fabregas, they're nearly the same kind of player and also of similar age. We're the most club that makes sense he can join us, as we have problems in this position currently and Mourinho knows him quite well.
It definitely is, that's exactly the point I'm making. They could make at least £50m from selling both in January (£25m each, easy), money they have no chance of making from the CL. Arsenal never made £50m from the CL in a single year.
Unless they have extremely punishing clauses form the sponsors tied to CL qualification, which we don't know. And obviously there's absolutely no guarantee that keeping Ozil and Sanchez will get them CL anyway. But losing the potential £50m from not selling is a certainty.
Would they not be free agents in Summer? i.e No longer under the control of Arsenal
I can't believe more hasn't been said about the Predator ad with Pogba. Surely it's the biggest hint ever that Ozil might be on the cards. He doesn't feature in the ad AT ALL until the last second when it says "because you're mine!". I know what that makes me think anyway!
Yeah that's what he's saying. They'll go in January for a fee in his opinion.
Let's say we were to offer Arsenal money in January what sum a) would you be happy with us spending?
b) what fee Arsenal would reasonably accept?
b) what fee Arsenal would reasonably accept?
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