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Do you want Ozil at Manchester United?


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He might not be the answer to all of our solutions, but he's free, would probably have a great understanding with Rashford and he would free up more money for other vital positions.

We lack a player than can do a key-pass in the final third, now that Mkhi has stopped playing.
 
He might not be the answer to all of our solutions, but he's free, would probably have a great understanding with Rashford and he would free up more money for other vital positions.

We lack a player than can do a key-pass in the final third, now that Mkhi has stopped playing.

My issues are even if we get all these attacking players, will that alter mou's approach to big games ?
 
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My issues are even if we get all these attacking players, will that alter mou's approach to big games ?

I agree, it probably wont. Özil is not cut out for this in my opinion neither, but he'd be a great fit against midtable and clubs in the buttom.

The perfect fit for this, would probably be more counter-attacking players like Perisic, Griezmann or if he takes a shot at Moura.
 
It’s a tough one.....he’s a goood player but has his obvious flaws.

You have to ask would his undoubted ability to open up defences and create chances for Lukaku, Rashford, Martial etc something Miki doesn’t seem o be able to do often enough outweigh his sluggish style and somewhat lack of interest.

A genuine maverick who could hold the key to immediate success but equally be another lazy over the hill signing just here for the pay check.
 
I'd like us to go for Ozil in January, although I do feel it is a rather short term option.

Saying that, I don't see why Ozil couldn't playing into his mid thirties as he doesn't exactly rely on his pace and athleticism.
 
My issues are even if we get all these attacking players, will that alter mou's approach to big games ?

It makes sense that when you have a no.10 that loses possession whenever he has the ball and has an inconsistent final ball then you will struggle to create chances away from home. You need a player to be clinical and decisive in the final third.

A player with the ball retention, passing vision, movement of Ozil will make us so much more effective.

Leave Ozil and Lukaku high up the pitch and get the ball to Ozil ASAP after a turnover of possession. He will find Lukaku 9/10 times.
 
Ozil is in the weird situation that he can go from world class to 'can't be arsed' depending on the finishing (composure) of his strikers... Now that I think of it, Arsenal is probably the worst possible place for him to be at :lol:.
Would probably be possible to make a 1min video like that of any creative pl player, but that's like 6 dozen sitters in that video alone, and he's not even been there THAT long.

For those who judge players by their body language he'll never do, luckily I don't think Mourinho is one of them. (Doesn't mean he's coming of course...)

Shame he joined us when he did considering the strikers we had prior to giroud rocking up at the Emirates. Wright, Anelka, Henry, wiltord, bergkamp, rvp - he would be putting up 20+ assists every season.

Really shocking how we went from that lot to effin Walcott, giroud, welbeck etc.
 
Just came in here after stalking the "were lacking genuine quality" thread.

Seemed a logical move.
 
really thats a positive ?

All i'm saying is, he never had and will never have a sudden permanent decline like Rooney for example. He always show up at some point, whether it is against Everton, Stoke, Chelsea, West Brom, he is guaranteed to win us some games on his own. And look at his body of work. Some of his performances for Madrid were stunning, some days over the last four years he made that Arsenal team look world class, he might not be consistent himself but he makes his teammates play better. The ONLY criticism people can make is his work rate, but work rate without vision and footballing intelligence ultimately won't do anything on it's own, just look at Lingard.
 
Once you start factoring in signing bonuses, agent fees and a £200K+ a week salary, the 'free' transfer aspect isn't all that much of a deal.

Simply, I don't think it should be a consideration - if Mourinho wants him and can motivate him, I'd be all over it but I suspect, after seeing how some people have gone after Lukaku (and others) after going 'missing' in big games, it would end in disaster. It would be an intriguing signing and something we are missing but it's a risk.
 
There's nobody in the market who would be a better buy than Ozil for a reasonable price. Maybe Reus market value has diminished due to his injuries, but he likely lost his pace. I really struggle to think of a better alternative. Just accept that Ozil is a BIG upgrade on Henrikh and Mata.
 
Just no. Past it.
WHAT? If anything his best years are ahead of him, you'll see. He'll be an excellent addition to this clueless squad we have right now without Pogba. Imagine having him and Pogba together sending through balls for 90 minutes. :drool:
 
Arsenal will surely look to sell him in January. He won't cost much. He'll without a doubt be an upgrade on Mikhitaryan for the number 10 position.
 
There's nobody in the market who would be a better buy than Ozil for a reasonable price. Maybe Reus market value has diminished due to his injuries, but he likely lost his pace. I really struggle to think of a better alternative. Just accept that Ozil is a BIG upgrade on Henrikh and Mata.

Fekir would be much better. Faster, younger, dynamic and can tackle. Fekir can be an integral part of the team whereas Ozil is a luxury player who won't track back or defend. Don't get me wrong as an impact player on a free it's worth considering but if we can afford the 50m Lyon would demand for Fekir I would pay it as he's worth it.
 
Fekir would be much better. Faster, younger, dynamic and can tackle. Fekir can be an integral part of the team whereas Ozil is a luxury player who won't track back or defend. Don't get me wrong as an impact player on a free it's worth considering but if we can afford the 50m Lyon would demand for Fekir I would pay it as he's worth it.

Is he all them stuff though? Are you watching him properly. He’s not faster than Özil at all.
 
Is he all them stuff though? Are you watching him properly. He’s not faster than Özil at all.

He is definitely faster than Ozil. He wouldn't have to be that quick to comfortably outrun Ozil. Ozil has a fast mind and can deliver passes to get attacks going but he's physically slow whereas Fekir is a much more dynamic player that likes to run at the opposition. Ozil is like a better Mata whereas Fekir play is reminiscent of Eden Hazard. There are a few scout reports that specifically mention his speed as a strength so I am confident that he's much quicker than Ozil. Watch the following clip and tell me Fekir isn't quicker than Ozil.

 
He is definitely faster than Ozil. He wouldn't have to be that quick to comfortably outrun Ozil. Ozil has a fast mind and can deliver passes to get attacks going but he's physically slow whereas Fekir is a much more dynamic player that likes to run at the opposition. Ozil is like a better Mata whereas Fekir play is reminiscent of Eden Hazard. There are a few scout reports that specifically mention his speed as a strength so I am confident that he's much quicker than Ozil. Watch the following clip and tell me Fekir isn't quicker than Ozil.


He is quicker than Ozil and is a much better dribbler. But, he looks to have lost a fair bit of pace since his injury and he's been bulking up to hold up the ball better, similar to what Lacazette did.
 
He is quicker than Ozil and is a much better dribbler. But, he looks to have lost a fair bit of pace since his injury and he's been bulking up to hold up the ball better, similar to what Lacazette did.

If you had to choose Fekir or Ozil for United?
 
If you had to choose Fekir or Ozil for United?
It's a tough one, as Ozil has incredible playmaking ability to provide the service that Lukaku needs. However, Fekir can score 20 goals a season and would ease a lot of the goal scoring burden that we seem to place on our centre forwards. Overall, I'd probably take Fekir as he's a lot younger and would likely be more motivated to perform when the going gets tough.
 
Ozil was completely useless against City. I don't think he would take us to a higher level. Some would say that he would be better than Mhiki and Mata at No. 10 which is probably right but I would rather have someone with more pace and urgency. Our passes are so sluggish and lack urgency. Our players also don't possess the intelligence of running into space and creating chances. We need pace and speed. We need someone who can offer direct style of play.
 
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