Mesut Ozil on a free? | Orn: Ozil signs new contract worth 350k
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Could be great for the short term. As of now he'd a terrific addition. Only worry would be the long term. That he shouldn't become an expensive burden a year or two from now. Also our signings always sound great on paper but the attackers in particular always tend to play worse than they did for their previous clubs.
I'd probably sign him in a short contract if be was willing. He probably wouldn't be.
I'd probably sign him in a short contract if be was willing. He probably wouldn't be.
2 years plus the usual extension option sounds about right.
I’d take him in January but not in the summer. He’d be useful for the second half of the season.
he's just waiting for someone to get married so he can announce it at a wedding.
If we signed him, and didn’t sign Griezmann, I wouldn’t mind if it meant we end up going for a RW.
Basically if we are to go after him, id rather we didnt, its best do it in January to bolster the squad options. Whats the rules with EL and CL and being cup tied?
Wouldn't mind taking a punt especially if it's for free or for a small fee if signed in January. Just as long as it doesn't prevent us from signing players who are of a better quality IMO like a Griezmann or a Dybala.
Been a massive fan of Ozil since his Bremen days, I remember seeing him play a few times there and also at the World Cup in 2010 and I really wanted him at United back then, even though he probably didn't suit our style at the time. However, he ended up at Madrid and was just sensational under Mourinho. Assist, after assist and even chipped in with a few goals too every season.
The year he signed for Arsenal I was hoping we went for him and if I remember correctly we were heavily linked with him for a day or 2 by Sky Sports before he eventually signed for Arsenal.
Yes he has been a bit up and down while at Arsenal but you can clearly see the quality is there and with the right team and management around him, I believe he would flourish.
Been a massive fan of Ozil since his Bremen days, I remember seeing him play a few times there and also at the World Cup in 2010 and I really wanted him at United back then, even though he probably didn't suit our style at the time. However, he ended up at Madrid and was just sensational under Mourinho. Assist, after assist and even chipped in with a few goals too every season.
The year he signed for Arsenal I was hoping we went for him and if I remember correctly we were heavily linked with him for a day or 2 by Sky Sports before he eventually signed for Arsenal.
Yes he has been a bit up and down while at Arsenal but you can clearly see the quality is there and with the right team and management around him, I believe he would flourish.
He'll be available for our CL campaign
there ya go, if he is available in Jan for 20M and Jose is interested id expect a move.
We will have another Berbatov but is ok to have pass maters.as we dont have any.
Think we should make an aggressive play for both him and Sanchez in Jan. Make Wenger an offer he can't refuse. Something like 50million quid plus Mata and Mkhitaryan. I'm sure he'll see reason, he is an economist after all.
There is no free lunch. There is no free Ozil.
Personally i think it would be a "how the hell were Arse stupid enough to let him come to us" transfer, same as the Matic signing.
Edit : If it happened, obv
Edit : If it happened, obv
I would take him this Jan.
Can play in CL. used to the PL, already worked with Mourinho and would improve us massively.
He would fit well in our team just behind Lukaku and would connect well with Mkhitaryan down the right.
We still need more technics in our team. Mata goes less effective, Mkhitaryam waste too many balls and Rashford just keep running.
We would need this type of player to create not only the assists, but also provide the pass before the assist, he can create spaces with his pass and is clever.
I would take him for 20M with no hesitation
Can play in CL. used to the PL, already worked with Mourinho and would improve us massively.
He would fit well in our team just behind Lukaku and would connect well with Mkhitaryan down the right.
We still need more technics in our team. Mata goes less effective, Mkhitaryam waste too many balls and Rashford just keep running.
We would need this type of player to create not only the assists, but also provide the pass before the assist, he can create spaces with his pass and is clever.
I would take him for 20M with no hesitation
No doubt. Especially with the septic display from Mkh lately.
Press Gossip thread has the Daily Star saying Mourinho and Ozil talk regularly about his move to Manchester United next summer. I don't think either want a massive transfer squabble in January. I think both would prefer a settle in period between the WC and the start EPL season.
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Ozil would set us on the wrong track. As great as he is, I want another midfielder who can step in when Pogba is injured and augment him when he isn't.
Ozil would set us on the wrong track. As great as he is, I want another midfielder who can step in when Pogba is injured and augment him when he isn't.
We should be in for BOTH Ozil and Sanchez tbh,especially if reports are to be believed that Barcelona will be making a move for Griezmann next year!
Sanchez is going to City. We can't kidnap him.
Fork up the £20m, something needs to change for us at #10.
Mikhi/Lingard are just not good enough. We need two options. Mata and Ozil
A no brainer, if Jose can get him performing, he'd certainly be an upgrade on Mata & Mikhi
Why even stick with Mata? We should be replacing him, not Lingard. The hate that lad gets, so cringeworthy.
Keep hearing about this from odd sources. NBCSN mentioned it today as if it was likely in the near term.
Seems to be leaks about this move all over the place, which while not always a sign it's likely to happen, I want to believe it is.
Ozil can improve our attacking dimension, why not sign him on free?
I think it will be a good short term signing.
I hope we sign him.
Aside from a couple of great moments, Mkhitaryan really hasn't done enough for my liking. Ozil is class and he is a "Mourinho man"
Aside from a couple of great moments, Mkhitaryan really hasn't done enough for my liking. Ozil is class and he is a "Mourinho man"
We should try and sign him in January.
I'm beginning to warm to the idea.
Mkhi is in desperate form.
Mkhi is in desperate form.
Would be nice to get him in January as I can't take another half season of Mkhi fecking about at #10.
In summer I think we can do better though, but I wouldn't be against going for him anyways since he will be a freebie, and we'll likely need two new playmakers since honestly we should upgrade both the ones we've got.
In summer I think we can do better though, but I wouldn't be against going for him anyways since he will be a freebie, and we'll likely need two new playmakers since honestly we should upgrade both the ones we've got.
If he can keep producing those through passes, the forwards like Rom and Rashford would have a field day. At the moment, Miki is not playing like the AM or no. 10 for this United team. He performed better when playing on the right than the center.
I moved this to the Ozil thread as we were clogging up Mkhi's.
I can't disagree with most of that. Though I do see what you mean about Mkhi giving his all being more against him than for, I prefer it to Ozil's lazy showings as it gets on my nerves now despite not even liking Arsenal. He's no so much giving his all in terms of showcasing his full talent; he's just working hard for the team, which, even though I agree isn't enough from a #10, shows he at least cares.
Still, I agree with most of what you say. I'm not too keen on the player but I can see why a lot of fans are in favour of signing him and if José wants him then we'll have to trust his judgement. It's working so far with Matic.
I moved this to the Ozil thread as we were clogging up Mkhi's.
I can't disagree with most of that. Though I do see what you mean about Mkhi giving his all being more against him than for, I prefer it to Ozil's lazy showings as it gets on my nerves now despite not even liking Arsenal. He's no so much giving his all in terms of showcasing his full talent; he's just working hard for the team, which, even though I agree isn't enough from a #10, shows he at least cares.
Still, I agree with most of what you say. I'm not too keen on the player but I can see why a lot of fans are in favour of signing him and if José wants him then we'll have to trust his judgement. It's working so far with Matic.
Signing Ozil isn't excluding any other acquisition at #10\playmaker role. We need to upgrade both our options there in Mata and Mkhi, neither of them are good enough for where we want to be.
Getting Ozil on a free when we are likely to spend something like 100m euros on Griezmann would be good business. Both will be significant upgrades on what we currently have.
Mkhitaryan was bought as a winger (judging by his early games) and only moved to #10 after failing to impose himself out-wide. The best players in the squad are all suited to playing 4-3-3 but are only being fielded in a 4-2-3-1 because Jose seems to like having Mkhitaryan's incisiveness somewhere in the lineup.
If we going to replace Mkhitaryan, I'd rather it were with a similarly incisive midfielder rather than another #10 like Ozil. Pogba, Rashford and Martial would all have a lot more freedom to get into central attacking areas - which is exactly what's been holding them back from going to the next level.
As much as I like Ozil, I'll be disappointed if we go down that route. He'd be an upgrade within an imperfect system rather than a solution to the underlying issues with our personnel.
If we going to replace Mkhitaryan, I'd rather it were with a similarly incisive midfielder rather than another #10 like Ozil. Pogba, Rashford and Martial would all have a lot more freedom to get into central attacking areas - which is exactly what's been holding them back from going to the next level.
As much as I like Ozil, I'll be disappointed if we go down that route. He'd be an upgrade within an imperfect system rather than a solution to the underlying issues with our personnel.
We do need an upgrade on Mata and Mkhi and whilst signing Ozil doesn't necessarily mean we won't sign another attacker, it does make it less likely. Still, Ozil (if he performs like José thinks he can) alone could help boost the team.
It's definitely worth a shot but I'm not the biggest fan of either player. They are indeed an upgrade on both Mata and Mkhi so I won't complain if that's the route José chooses to go down, though.
That's pretty much where I stand. Someone like Carlos Soler to carry the ball forward, and someone like Malcom for RF, a bit of dash and skill, and I'd be sorted.
Somehow ozil's stats stay so high, i still think he would be a great improvement on mkhi without breaking the bank.
No somehow about it, his passing and vision is down right sublime.
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