Mesut Ozil on a free? | Orn: Ozil signs new contract worth 350k

[EyeInTheSky]

If true it should be January, Arsenal are not in the CL so that should not be a massive issue.

We are desperate for a creative player to make up for the reliance on Pogba and when he's back then we will have more ways of hurting teams

 

[Tom Van Persie]

Arsenal don't really want him why should United?

Ozil's prime is past. His effort and aura are flaccid.

Didn't Arsenal offer him like £300k a week? And I bet you had the same attitude when we were linked to Matic...

 

[Hojoon]

Has he ever played centrally? That seems our problem area. Doesn't he usyally play basically on the left wing?

So we'd have Martial, ozil and Rashford on that side?

For Germany that’s where he is on paper IIRC but he’s a bonafide number 10.

 

[ManuMou]

Can he do another “Matic”-like signing for us?

 

[MeUnited]

One of my favourite players signing for my favourite club.

 

[HoopsMcCann]

Didn't Arsenal offer him like £300k a week? And I bet you had the same attitude when we were linked to Matic...

I did have the same attitude though I like Matic more as he brings skill and grit. They are both older and won't be of much use in the future. Ozil would be another past prime player who brings a touch of world class creativity and a lot of invisible performances.

That said he'd be eligible for Champions League this year, right?

 

[Untied]

I did have the same attitude though I like Matic more as he brings skill and grit. They are both older and won't be of much use in the future. Ozil would be another past prime player who brings a touch of world class creativity and a lot of invisible performances.

That said he'd be eligible for Champions League this year, right?

Yeah, you are allowed one player in your CL squad who has already appeared in the EL that season

 

[MyOnlySolskjaer]

I did have the same attitude though I like Matic more as he brings skill and grit. They are both older and won't be of much use in the future. Ozil would be another past prime player who brings a touch of world class creativity and a lot of invisible performances.

That said he'd be eligible for Champions League this year, right?

Yep.

 

[BluesJr]

I previously wasn’t keen on this but now I’m 100000% behind this if we can get him in January. The reason being I’ve lost all faith I had in Mhkitaryan we need a replacement ASAP.

 

[breakout67]

What a player, hands down the best no.10 in the world back then. Didnt look out of place playing against Xavi and Iniesta.

 

[MyOnlySolskjaer]

He's exactly what we need, we're a team that's lacking composure in the final third. He's a player that's better suited to counter-attacking football than Arsenal's style of play.

Ignore the music but he's got everything Mkhitaryan doesn't have on the counter-attack. He's great at making quick decisions and making match winning passes in key moments. Feel his crossing is severely underrated too, the number of assists he got for Giroud from his ability to ping a cross was top class. It's something we can use for Romelu.

 

[Sentient Meat]

I'd use him instead of Mkhitaryan, our depth at midfield has been exposed since Fellaini and Pogba were injured.
Most importantly it keeps him away from City, Chelsea, and Arsenal.

 

[arthurka]

I would love to have him here but at the same time I dont think I could handle him playing like he does at Arsenal for us...

 

[BluesJr]

I would love to have him here but at the same time I dont think I could handle him playing like he does at Arsenal for us...

Can you handle Mkhitaryan in his current state? I know which I’d prefer at least Ozil can control a ball.

 

[Vault Dweller]

He's exactly what we need, we're a team that's lacking composure in the final third. He's a player that's better suited to counter-attacking football than Arsenal's style of play.

Ignore the music but he's got everything Mkhitaryan doesn't have on the counter-attack. He's great at making quick decisions and making match winning passes in key moments. Feel his crossing is severely underrated too, the number of assists he got for Giroud from his ability to ping a cross was top class. It's something we can use for Romelu.

Have to say that was honestly the last track I expected to come on but it did make me lol

 

[Devil may care]

Replacing Mkhi with a lazy coward isn't ideal with so much dynamic talent around who are hungry and heading upwards. The only reason I can think of paying Ozil obscene money at 29 is we believe Angel Gomes can understudy him and will have a clear planned progression into the first team.

I don't believe he's running around telling team mates though, it makes no sense to piss them and the fans off when he's going to be there another 7 months, it feels more like a strategic leak from his camp to force Arsenal's hand on new contract wages.

 

[MyOnlySolskjaer]

José Mourinho on Özil in August 2010: (Trying to convince him to sign for Real Madrid)

Yes that's what I'll give you. A very real opportunity. Train hard. Then play. Show me you want it and I'll have you in my team. If you want to get better, I'll make you better.

Real Madrid isn’t too big a move for you. Real Madrid is the only right move. Trust me. I’ll turn you into a regular player. And then all the doors will be open to you. You’ll be able to show the world what you’re capable of. And, believe me, that’s a huge amount.

José Mourinho on Özil April 2011:

Ozil has evolved.

Before, there were details, glimpses of his class, but he mixed those with quieter moments. Now he stands out for his dynamism and the continuity in his game.

He's an ambitious boy with a feeling for magic passes.

José Mourinho on Özil in December 2012: (Dressing room at half-time in a match against Deportivo La Coruna)

You want the ball to your feet, you have to move!

I want you to play as well as you can. I want you to go into tackles like a man. Do you know what it looks like when you tackle? No? Let me show you (mimes a flimsy tackle).

That’s how you tackle. Ooh, I mustn’t get hurt. And absolutely mustn’t get dirty.

You think two beautiful passes are enough. You're too fine for going into fights. You think you're so good that fifty percent is enough.

Oh, are you giving up now? You’re such a coward. What do you want? To creep under the beautiful, warm shower? Shampoo your hair? To be alone? Or do you want to prove to your fellow players, the fans out there, and me, what you can do.

José Mourinho on Özil in September 2013: (Özil signs for Arsenal)

Ozil is unique. There is no copy of him, not even a bad copy.

He is the best No.10 in the world. He makes things very easy for me and for his team-mates with his football vision and the decisions he makes.

Everyone loves him and sees a bit of Luis Figo and Zinedine Zidane in him.

José Mourinho on Özil in June 2014:

I learned with him because we were together for quite a long time, that he's a very sensitive boy.

He needs confidence. He needs trust. He needs to feel that people is with him. When he's on the pitch, every time he touches the ball, the ball goes beautiful.

And he’ll always finds the right man on the right place. So, sometimes, you don't see him, sometimes he doesn't go to screen many, many times. But when he goes he is a special player.

If you are expecting Ozil to be super aggressive and running miles and miles side to side and to show great enthusiasm and aggressivity - this is not Mesut .

If you are waiting for somebody who every time he touches the ball, the ball smiles and every time he makes the pass the ball goes in the right direction with the right speed and intensity - this is Mesut.

Mark Lawrenson

Jose Mourinho once said to me, when sometimes he would turn his back in training with Real Madrid he could always tell when Ozil struck the ball.

It made a different sound.

 

[Ramshock]

feck this, do not want.

 

[Amadaeus]

Lukaku and Ozil behind him will have the lowest work rate in the league. They will be known as the passenger duo.

I do not believe Ozil will make me eat crow if he comes here. Even in his prime at Arsenal, he was still criticized of not showing up in important games. Perhaps the fault is Wenger, but I do not believe Mourinho will have the ability to change that mentality in him. United are better of with Greizman.

 

[Ramshock]

is he even quicker than Micky or Mata?

 

[Plato]

Ozil used to be my first signing on PES4 so I wouldn't mind signing him based on that. But really, he does seem like the kind of guy who'd play for a manager who coddles him, which Mourinho apparently does with his guys.

 

[breakout67]

Lukaku and Ozil behind him will have the lowest work rate in the league. They will be known as the passenger duo.

So basically like Ozil and Ronaldo at Madrid who were both criticized by the manager for not working hard enough

 

[montpelier]

he can play when he fancies it - so that's only been occasionally in the English League, can he hack it really in the EPL remains a question, as it does for Mkhitaryan tbf

also Ozil's a massive bellend coming from being a flop at Arsenal

definite NO from me, and even persist with Mkhitaryan if the choice is O v M

 

[sullydnl]

I absolutely adored him as a footballer when he emerged and thought it was bizzare that we didn't sign him before he went to both Madrid and Arsenal. Says a lot about how poor some of his Arsenal performances have been that I now actively dislike the idea of signing him. Maybe it's harsh to call him a heartless coward but I've certainly seen him put in the performances of a heartless coward too many times at Arsenal to want him here.

 

[haram]

"I learned with him because we were together for quite a long time, that he's a very sensitive boy.

He needs confidence. He needs trust. He needs to feel that people is with him. When he's on the pitch, every time he touches the ball, the ball goes beautiful.

And he’ll always finds the right man on the right place. So, sometimes, you don't see him, sometimes he doesn't go to screen many, many times. But when he goes he is a special player.

If you are expecting Ozil to be super aggressive and running miles and miles side to side and to show great enthusiasm and aggressivity - this is not Mesut .

If you are waiting for somebody who every time he touches the ball, the ball smiles and every time he makes the pass the ball goes in the right direction with the right speed and intensity - this is Mesut".

Sounds like a man who knows how to get the best out of Ozil.

 

[meninred]

It is being rumored that Ozil has told friends that he is going to Manchester united in January.

 

[ti vu]

No.7 Nice trolling

 

[Slimcharles69]

He's class and I wanted us to sign him when he was in Germany but I've just grown to dislike him as a player, he strikes me as lazy, a flat track bully and someone who doesn't always give his all. Maybe like it happens with a lot of players Madrid sucked the motivation out of him. Great technically but weak mentally I just do not want at all

 

[yo@Kirk]

Don't see him going anywhere in January. Wenger won't sell him to Mourinho and I don't think any team is going to pay a transfer fee for 4 months of don't give a feck.

 

[Devil may care]

is he even quicker than Micky or Mata?

He's quicker than Mata but most players are, I'd say he's about the same as Mkhi.

I absolutely adored him as a footballer when he emerged and thought it was bizzare that we didn't sign him before he went to both Madrid and Arsenal. Says a lot about how poor some of his Arsenal performances have been that I now actively dislike the idea of signing him. Maybe it's harsh to call him a heartless coward but I've certainly seen him put in the performances of a heartless coward too many times at Arsenal to want him here.

This is exactly how I feel, I dislike his attitude and I think the excuse of blaming it all on Wenger is BS, he's a grown man being paid a fortune and has pretty much been phoning it in for Arsneal for a while now, especially in games where it gets tough. We are already smashing the smaller teams, what we are missing is the kind of attacking player that can take the big games on and provide control in the final 3rd, I've not seen much of that from him at Arsenal.

 

[ti vu]

is he even quicker than Micky or Mata?

He's quicker than Mata but most players are, I'd say he's about the same as Mkhi.



This is exactly how I feel, I dislike his attitude and I think the excuse of blaming it all on Wenger is BS, he's a grown man being paid a fortune and has pretty much been phoning it in for Arsneal for a while now, especially in games where it gets tough. We are already smashing the smaller teams, what we are missing is the kind of attacking player that can take the big games on and provide control in the final 3rd, I've not seen much of that from him at Arsenal.

Top speed he is slower than Mkhi, but not like players use top speed that much. Ozil is stronger at protecting the ball in his possession than Mkhi, so even though he is not as quick, he is less wasteful losing possession.

Ozil didn't paint him in beautiful light, that's no denying so it's same reason clubs wouldn't pay huge sum taking away from Arsenal despite on his days, he is amazing. You see players like Ox, Sirgurdsson moved for big money despite their whole career is lesser player. So Ozil took the punishment for his unprofessionalism.

Ozil was not and wouldn't be the last who try to escape Wenger's Arsenal. Someone like Vieira who Wenger had great influence took him from Milan and made him into of one the finest midfielder in his generation and Arsenal legend, didn't have the best with relationship with Wenger is quite telling.

2 wrong doesn't make a right. So both Ozil and Wenger are to shoulder the blame. However, Ozil moves away from Arsenal would be him correcting his mistake, and make it right.

While expecting Ozil to be able to replicate his form at Madrid, which he was not that terrible like his Arsenal big games form, is unrealistic, there is hope he can perform to acceptable level, which Mkhi performance has not been recently.

 

[VancouverUtdFan]

Please God let this be true!


José is the master key that is capable of unlocking Ozil's daily world class form. I'm not sure if people have short term memory but if you can remember not too far back on Real, Ozil was a top10 player in the world and an absolute magician. José knows how to get the best out of him and the track record speaks for itself. Can you imagine Ozil in a mid3 alongside Pogba and Matic dropping dimes on the regular to Lukaku up top and Martial/Rashford on the wings? Gg, gfg.

Can already see it. United prying away Arsenal's most talented player yet again and getting the best years out of him than when on Arsenal like RVP. Absolutely splendid.

LETS GET THE PROPOGANDA MACHINE STARTED

 

[Mockney]

I agree that Mikhi & Mata need eventual replacing (in the first XI at least) but this seems like a terrible idea. He's the same age as them, so a stop gap at best, and an unpredictable one at that. Is it really worth upsetting the apple cart for at best 2 years of potential slight improvement? Then when we eventually do sign a proper long term replacement, is he going to gracefully accept a squad role as well as the former seem willing to?

Fergie's 'cow in another field' rant comes to mind.

I'll embrace him if he comes, of course, but I don't see any RVP parallels. Robin was the Sanchez of that side, not the Ozil... It'd be more like getting an inform Theo Walcott in 2012, coup wise.

Im also not a huge fan of managers signing ageing stalwarts from former teams. Sure it's worked out with Matic so far, but there's only so many you can fit in before you're just doing a high-end Harry Redknapp routine.

 

[GifLord]

Nobody remembers his funny selfie pic during the Moyes era where he was pointing at Man Utd on the EPL table - Ars were 1st while we were 6th or 7th?
Don't want him anywhere near our club

 

[criticalanalysis]

José Mourinho on Özil in August 2010: (Trying to convince him to sign for Real Madrid)


José Mourinho on Özil April 2011:


José Mourinho on Özil in December 2012: (Dressing room at half-time in a match against Deportivo La Coruna)


José Mourinho on Özil in September 2013: (Özil signs for Arsenal)


José Mourinho on Özil in June 2014:


Mark Lawrenson

...better love story than Twilight?

 

[PepsiCola]

For the absolute battering some players get from the sports psychology experts on this forum, it's a surprise Ozil is wanted.

A fairweather player if i ever saw one.

 

[bosnian_red]

Hope not, would be incredibly short sighted with little benefit. Of course, he would improve on Miki/mata for most games, but then we'd have another invisible player for big games.

 

[Art]

I think players are capable of rediscovering their prime if they want to play for a manager they like. Matic was an example where many on here thought was underwhelming last year but turns out to be a rolls royce. I think Mesut will prove to be the same. He's a fantastic player on form.

 

[Needham]

This?

No thanks

 

[Peanut Butter]

God no. Stay at Arsenal please.