Mesut Özil

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I've no idea how he manages his diary but it defies common sense that he would attend a game to watch Ozil, then buggar off after watching him for 7 minutes.

Here's an alternative explanation. The explanation Fergie himself gave. He went to watch Fulham and knew he'd see all he needed by half-time.

Now, which of those two scenarios is the more likely?

So were not signing him?
 
leave it Pogue, you won't persuade some people even if Ozil had a 7 second long cameo

I don't think I've said whether or not I think we're interested in Ozil, I haven't even said that I do think Fergie was there to take a look at Ozil - I just think it's unnecessary to brand those who think that may be the case as lunatics

There will be no persuading me either way, unless something happens, because none of us have any clue of what's actually happening :)
 
SAF was not at Craven Cottage to 'scout' Ozil. As he admitted today there are plenty of teams who already know what a prospect he is and that would love to sign him. So only watching for 7 minutes in neither here nor there, its a complete red herring.

I think we are very interested in signing him ... and SAF took this opportunity to meet him in person before the game, have a decent chat, a pre-signing interview if you like. And Im sure this was in the full knowledge of Werder Breman and with their blessing.

We may still not sign him, things can go wrong, but that does not mean that we are not trying. The club is always looking a bringing in new players that will improve the club but we dont manage to recruit every single one. Those who think we are not interested in Ozil have in totally wrong.

FFS! Stop putting silly ideas into the heads of some very vulnerable people! Why the feck would Werder Bremen just hand their player over to Man United and not let a bidding war build? Why would they be so accomadating to a single suitor? You don't get big money for your star player by being nice about it!
 
SAF was not at Craven Cottage to 'scout' Ozil. As he admitted today there are plenty of teams who already know what a prospect he is and that would love to sign him. So only watching for 7 minutes in neither here nor there, its a complete red herring.

I think we are very interested in signing him ... and SAF took this opportunity to meet him in person before the game, have a decent chat, a pre-signing interview if you like. And Im sure this was in the full knowledge of Werder Breman and with their blessing.

We may still not sign him, things can go wrong, but that does not mean that we are not trying. The club is always looking a bringing in new players that will improve the club but we dont manage to recruit every single one. Those who think we are not interested in Ozil have in totally wrong.
Bingo, option three. I agree that is the most likely reason he was there.

Then again, you never know with Fergie. It was only a couple of weeks ago that he intentionally caused speculation when answering a question about Vidic. Then stated later "I knew he had agreed a new contract, but I didn't want to give the guy a story."

For the record, again, I am not bothered whether or not we sign Ozil. I don't believe our midfield is as weak as some would have you believe.
 
I think Fergie just likes fecking with everybody now and then for his own amusement...:)

No doubt there's little in the Ozil stories but rather than deny it, he adds fuel to the fire by going to see Fulham and then being coy when asked the question.....he's probably on the cafe now pissing himself!
 
SAF was not at Craven Cottage to 'scout' Ozil. As he admitted today there are plenty of teams who already know what a prospect he is and that would love to sign him. So only watching for 7 minutes in neither here nor there, its a complete red herring.

I think we are very interested in signing him ... and SAF took this opportunity to meet him in person before the game, have a decent chat, a pre-signing interview if you like. And Im sure this was in the full knowledge of Werder Breman and with their blessing.

We may still not sign him, things can go wrong, but that does not mean that we are not trying. The club is always looking a bringing in new players that will improve the club but we dont manage to recruit every single one. Those who think we are not interested in Ozil have in totally wrong.

Exactly. Of course he wasn’t there to scout him. That would obviously be ridiculous, but he was probably there to take the opportunity to have face to face contact with some people from Werder. I doubt that would be Özil himself—it seems very unlikely.

It still doesn’t make much sense him being there JUST to see Fulham in a pre-season friendly, what with them playing at Bolton next Saturday.
 
FFS! Stop putting silly ideas into the heads of some very vulnerable people! Why the feck would Werder Bremen just hand their player over to Man United and not let a bidding war build? Why would they be so accomadating to a single suitor? You don't get big money for your star player by being nice about it!

Maybe no one else is really interested? I dont hear any other team making any big noises. Maybe we are the only real suitor this year?

As Ribery proved, you are only worth a transfer fee if another club is prepared to pay it. In Ribery's case, despite all that silly £50m talk, he was worth exactly .... nothing £000 because no club was prepared to buy him
 
Sir Alex Ferguson refused to confirm or deny his interest in signing Germany star Mesut Ozil following Manchester United's Community Shield victory.

United boss Ferguson was at Craven Cottage on Saturday, when Ozil's Werder Bremen side were playing Fulham in a pre-season friendly.

Ferguson hinted he was an admirer of the 21-year-old midfielder - one of the best players at this summer's World Cup - but asked if he was interested in bringing the playmaker to Old Trafford, he replied cryptically: "I don't know."

He added: "I think a lot of clubs would be interested in Ozil.

"At the moment, I think we've got a great squad. I don't need to add to it - that's my opinion. I trust them.

"But, as I said, there are a lot of clubs interested in him."


Ferguson was happy with United's performance against Chelsea this afternoon, which saw them run out 3-1 winners at Wembley.

But he was even more pleased with being able to give a number of his players a much-needed run-out, including Wayne Rooney.

The England striker put his World Cup misery behind him to impressive in a 45-minute cameo that saw him lay on United's opener with an inch-perfect cross for Antonio Valencia

So neither cocks out or in. What should I do with mine.
 
SAF was not at Craven Cottage to 'scout' Ozil. As he admitted today there are plenty of teams who already know what a prospect he is and that would love to sign him. So only watching for 7 minutes in neither here nor there, its a complete red herring.

I think we are very interested in signing him ... and SAF took this opportunity to meet him in person before the game, have a decent chat, a pre-signing interview if you like. And Im sure this was in the full knowledge of Werder Breman and with their blessing.

We may still not sign him, things can go wrong, but that does not mean that we are not trying. The club is always looking a bringing in new players that will improve the club but we dont manage to recruit every single one. Those who think we are not interested in Ozil have in totally wrong.

A very sensible post and probably as close to the truth as any of us can guess. Fair play!
 
He added: "I think a lot of clubs would be interested in Ozil.

"At the moment, I think we've got a great squad. I don't need to add to it - that's my opinion. I trust them.

"But, as I said, there are a lot of clubs interested in him."
I think what he could be trying to say is that loads of clubs may be interested in Ozil and we are not interested in bringing him over to us this season as we are happy with our squad.. But if he were to be available on a free for next season we too would be interested.. thus being very happy with the squad "At the moment"
 
I think what he could be trying to say is that loads of clubs may be interested in Ozil and we are not interested in bringing him over to us this season as we are happy with our squad.. But if he were to be available on a free for next season we too would be interested.. thus being very happy with the squad "At the moment"

Net net, the only thing we do know right now is that HE ISN'T NOT JOINING US.

SAF could have categorically said so if he wanted.
 
Net net, the only thing we do know right now is that HE ISN'T NOT JOINING US.

SAF could have categorically said so if he wanted.

I agree but he was not asked that question directly.. He was asked whether we were interested and he denied that we weren't.. But he in turn said 'at the moment we have a good squad' the ATM was used very intentionally imo..

Anyway we all know SAF talks crap so I don't know why I am trying to decipher what he said..
 
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I don't know why the world and its dog are retweeting stuff from Honigstein from last Wednesday. It's not news.
 
Manchester United grab first prize and eye Mesut Ozil

Manchester United are considering turning their interest in Mesut Ozil into a formal offer providing Sir Alex Ferguson can convince the club's owners that the Germany international represents a bargain, available from Werder Bremen for as little as £13.5m.

Ferguson tonight responded to questions about Ozil after the 3-1 defeat of Chelsea in the Community Shield by repeating that he was happy with his current squad and "did not need to add to it".

However, the United manager, who was at Craven Cottage on Saturday to see Ozil's team play Fulham in a pre-season friendly, was particularly ambiguous when he was asked directly, on four occasions, whether it was true the deposed Premier League champions were after the man who helped to eliminate England from the World Cup.

Ferguson deflected the questions with his first response that "a lot of clubs are interested in Ozil". He said he was "happy with the squad" and pointed out United play Fulham in 13 days. Yet it is rare these days for Ferguson to watch United's opponents – he usually leaves it to his scouts to compile reports for him – and when he was asked to clarify if the club would make a bid, there was another oblique answer. "I didn't say that," was his first response, followed by: "I don't know."

United's information is that Chelsea, Real Madrid and Barcelona have all approached Bremen, though Ozil's representatives are said not to have been overly impressed during talks with the two Spanish clubs. Ferguson is more concerned about Chelsea, with their superior finances, hijacking the deal, which might explain his reluctance to be drawn further on the issue.

Ozil, one of the outstanding performers in the World Cup, is available for a fraction of his true valuation because he is in the last year of his contract with Bremen and the Bundesliga club risk losing him on a free transfer next summer.

However, the matter is complicated because Werder Bremen have been handed a difficult tie, against Sampdoria, in the Champions League qualifiers and the German club are deliberating whether it would be better to keep Ozil for those games because of the vast sums they stood to lose if they were knocked out. Even though the 21-year-old is available on the cheap, Ferguson would also have to convince the Glazer family of the player's worth at a time when United are beset by financial issues...

Manchester United grab first prize and eye Mesut Ozil | Football | The Guardian

A bit of information from Daniel Taylor as to the actual details of the post-match press conference with Sir Alex.
 
All I know is that I am fecking sick of the sight of Franck Ribery on the first page of this thread.
 
I don't know why the world and its dog are retweeting stuff from Honigstein from last Wednesday. It's not news.

Yet few people appear to have read his SI article as it clearly states that Ozil is reluctant to move anywhere that he wouldn't be an automatic starter; which would be problematic for United right now.
 
The Sampdoria tie will have raised the price and made Bremen nervous about selling him.

Is it normal for SAF to go scout teams like Fulham in preseason matches these days? I see a lot of opposition managers highlighted by the tv cameras at various matches during the season, but I can't remember the last time it was SAF in the stands.
 
You've got to wonder if he's being encouraged to "do a Chamakh"

Another season as the main man at Bremen would bring him on a lot.

Risky bet, could easily have his head turned, very easily. Best snap him up now if anything, Chamakh isn't really comparable as I am sure his list of potential suitors wasn't anything like reported for lil Mesut.
 
there is too little info to judge why really fergie went to watch fulham. however i dont think it was a coincidence that he went to watch ozil and his team.
 
I agree but he was not asked that question directly.. He was asked whether we were interested and he denied that we weren't.. But he in turn said 'at the moment we have a good squad' the ATM was used very intentionally imo..

Anyway we all know SAF talks crap so I don't know why I am trying to decipher what he said..

Yeah. I think the non-denial is all that can be taken away from it. If there was no truth in it, he could have said so, like with Sneijder.
 
It seems strange that after the month or so of speculation, all Fergie had to say was "we are not at all interested". How does he know a "lot of people" are interested?

Not that I think it'll happen but I think we at least have a passing interest. Whether that'll result in a bid is another thing. But when this summer has resulted in a statement of uninterest for Joe Cole, it seems strange that this rumor wasn't emphatically denied when the opportunity to do so was there.

Although as I said earlier in the thread, SAF can be quite mischievous and it wouldn't surprise me if he was just fecking with the media to make them look (even more) stupid.
 
We might buy ozil but I doubt we're in any rush. We're that far advanced in our thinking if you believe everything - and yet it's only recent that we decided to keep Cleverly. With a year left on his contract, we might just take our chances in Jan should it become evident it's something that would improve us. Would we pay 8 or however million now when you can get him for free next season? When your talking that sort of money, you can understand the question..why the rush?
 
We might buy ozil but I doubt we're in any rush. We're that far advanced in our thinking if you believe everything - and yet it's only recent that we decided to keep Cleverly. With a year left on his contract, we might just take our chances in Jan should it become evident it's something that would improve us. Would we pay 8 or however million now when you can get him for free next season? When your talking that sort of money, you can understand the question..why the rush?

It's not rocket science: If a player of Özil's quality becomes a free agent, almost all top clubs will be interested in him, among them his beloved Spanish clubs.

And I know nobody will listen, because it's not convenient, but there is no German paper that seriously connects him to United, all they are doing is refering to English news. This is very unusual given that the BILD is one of the best informed sources when it comes to German transfers.

And it's funny that nobody mentions the fact that he is connected to Barca again as a "replacement" for the failed Fabregas transfer.
 
It's not rocket science: If a player of Özil's quality becomes a free agent, almost all top clubs will be interested in him, among them his beloved Spanish clubs.

so whats your point? Ozil at this moment in time is overrated. There are no real clues to our level of interest
 
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