I just pulled them from the Twitter thread. And keep in mind I left out about 150 similar quotes from other football greats.
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I just pulled them from the Twitter thread. And keep in mind I left out about 150 similar quotes from other football greats.
not that it matters, but Capello's quote is the most recent one among those, I think. february or march.
Thanks for the info but i'm sure you know that your reply didn't affect in anything what i was asking for
You should look for the dates yourself then.
Imagine being asked to provide information that would take a good hour to find, just to prove a point on some meaningless debate on a internet forum.
Imagine using factual data on 2019. I see you are one of those that like the disinformation. So, the one whos is receiving the info is the one that should check how true and when it was declared. Such a way to see the world. Good job
"Cristiano is the best player ever" - Einstein, somewhere in time.
you're the only one here bothered by dates so much, so unless you're handicapped in some way, you should spend some time to look them up.
Well, maybe thats the problem. I'm trying to bring factual data to a stupid conversation where people throw quotes at each other like chimps do with their feces.
Thanks, i will remain on the other side of the glass again, just watching.
“Someone quoted a bunch of football players saying that Messi is the greatest of all time without providing the exact minute and hour in which the quote was said, so he must be lying”.
Go and look for that factual data yourself, immerse yourself in the sea on numbers, knock yourself out.
Keeps eating popcorn while looking at them balance on a tree branch
And I wouldn’t put it past Ronaldo extremists to invent that Keane changed his mind. At least I provided a quote. I suppose this quote from June 2018 is the one you’re referring to?
"I think his form over the last few months I'd have him above of Messi."
That’s not the same thing at all. Sounds like he’s just recognizing his amazing form at that time. Anyone could see he had a better WC than Messi.
”The way he started the World Cup, the way he finished last season. How many times can we say it about him? His improvement, his attitude... A lot of it - it's not natural ability for Ronaldo. As brilliant as he is, I think it's just sheer hard work, determination, desire. He's got a lot of courage, wants to get in there, he's brave. I've said it before, the guy's a genius.
"I think given his form at the moment, the way he's started the World Cup, I'd have him ahead of Messi.”
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Indeed. Capellos quote is from 3 months ago.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ma...ball/2019/03/14/5c8a8dcbca4741893e8b45d3.html
But i guess his opinion doesn't matter, he must be a Messi cultist.
You Messi fans really live in some kind of fantasy world where Messi is some sort of deity, where you seem to have happily invited Messi to the GOAT debate between Pele and Maradona that has been going on for decades while plenty of great players have come and gone, based on sweet feckall as usual. Please tell me why this 'Big 3' doesn't include the likes of Cruyff, Di Stefano, Beckenbauer and a few others - you know - players who symbolise generations of football and have unquestionable stature in the game?
Cruyff reached the ceiling of individual brilliance as an attacker - all time great scorer, dribbler, creator and an absolute genius on the pitch with searing pace, acceleration and did all that at a time when players would tear his shirts and kick him to bits whenever they wanted, while also being the absolute central figure in possibly the most groundbreaking team the game has ever seen under the finest tactician in Rinus Michels, and Cruyff embodied the spirit of total football through that entire time. Not only that, he carried forward that philosophy to two of the greatest academies that exist to this day, and which Messi himself is a product of, among being an influence for countless other players. But Messi makes the 'Big 3'.
Not sure the entire cult you guys are a part of realises just how deluded and self indulged you guys are, practically covering your eyes to everything that doesn't suit your agenda. As I've always said, one of the most pathetic group of fans.
*claps*
Stop twisting it, this is pretty self explanatory, he clearly says there has been a debate over the last few years so he's assessing it over their careers. Just accept it, not everyone is a Messi extremist.
Was hounded by a few of them for it too, like clockwork
On the same panel when Keane said that, Ian Wright's also said this:
Keane's fellow panelist Ian Wright also backed Ronaldo in his long-running battle with Messi, as he took his goal tally at Russia 2018 to four after his winner against Morocco on Wednesday.
"What he has proven going into the World Cup with the pressure he's under, this is his fourth World Cup, the way he's started, he has shown it's not just ability, its hard work. He's getting the fruits of all that work over the years," stated the former Arsenal striker.
"I think that with Ronaldo he's been in different leagues, out of his comfort zone. Ronaldo when he left Portugal, even at Manchester United, I remember he had a year where they said he can go back (but he wanted to stay and fight at Old Trafford).'
"I think in years to come, we've been fortunate to watch both at the height of their powers, but in years to come I think Ronaldo will pinch it for me."
It's clear the context of discussions was their whole careers.
Keane's fellow panelist Ian Wright also backed Ronaldo in his long-running battle with Messi, as he took his goal tally at Russia 2018 to four after his winner against Morocco on Wednesday.
"What he has proven going into the World Cup with the pressure he's under, this is his fourth World Cup, the way he's started, he has shown it's not just ability, its hard work. He's getting the fruits of all that work over the years," stated the former Arsenal striker.
"I think that with Ronaldo he's been in different leagues, out of his comfort zone. Ronaldo when he left Portugal, even at Manchester United, I remember he had a year where they said he can go back (but he wanted to stay and fight at Old Trafford).'
"I think in years to come, we've been fortunate to watch both at the height of their powers, but in years to come I think Ronaldo will pinch it for me."
It's clear the context of discussions was their whole careers.
Was hounded by a few of them for it too, like clockwork
I like how the first reply was but Ronaldo. But what do you expect from a fan base which uses the onzo dor and casemiro being part of the worlds best midfield the two years he wasnt at Madrid as arguments.
The question remains, and Cristiano fans on this board always swerve or struggle to answer. Why, at any point in Cristianos fabled career havent there been such quotes on him? Those quotes are from respected personalities in football, ranging from legendary managers to legendary players. Why havent they come out in their droves and said the same about Cristiano, even after winning his 5th Balon Dor and Euro16? There are many more on Leo. Why are all these people saying these things? Is it part of a larger conspiracy? Do they not know what theyre talking about? Are they jealous of Cristiano? Do they hate him?
Or, maybe, this might sound controversial, they just see Leo as better. Find 10 quotes from non Real or Portugal related foitball people proclaiming Cristiano is the best ever then close thread. They dont exist for a reason
Exactly. When someone praises Ronaldo in a GOAT context, it’s usually with a lof of caveats and beating around the bush. ”Oh he’s been amazing over the last few months, he works so hard, incredible, for me he is unbelievable. He doesn’t have the same talent as Messi but oh he has a winning mentality. For me his work ethic makes him the most impressive player.”
Whereas with Messi, it’s very clear.
”He is the best ever”
”He is the best I’ve ever seen.”
”Ronaldo can’t reach him”.
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Yesterday, someone showed me a long video of Brazilian Ronaldo before injuries started to take there toll on him. I am not exagerating when i say he was a level above Messi (genius) and way, way above Portugese Ron, who has no doubt been a great player. The way Brazilian Ronaldo could run at such pace, twisting and turning with the ball looking like it was glued to his feet was unreal. Olympic winner levels of accelleration and then be able to stop and turn in a stride when a full pace. Time and time again have defenders end up on their backsides after trying to stop him. Time and again be surrounded by 3, 4 or 5 players and beat them all. Ice cold finishher and when he didn't try and do it all himself, he could lay on a neat ball for others to score. But watching do such unbelievable twisting and turninng, it's no surprise it took it's such a toll on his knees and finished him as the uber genius of football.
Someone “showed you a video”, Ronaldo was nowhere near as good as Messi, he can still be considered as the greatest no.9 ever, that’s not a patch on him.
He wasn’t as good as CR7 neither.
What he could’ve become if not for the injuries is a meaningless debate because we’ll never know, but I’ve seen plenty of R9 back in the day, he wasn’t as good let alone better than peak Messi for any prolonged point in his career.
No one claim Ronaldo is the best ever, but Ronaldo has a case for at least among one of GOAT. These quotes on Messi, most of them is about how one regards him as best player they have ever seen, or best player in the world at some point, which many people would agree anyway (including me). Regarding greatest player ever, its another subject which is really up for debate.
R9 himself prefers Messi over Ronaldo according to that Twitter thread. That’s just one of hundreds of quotes I also could have included but didn’t because it would take up too much space.
"It's tough, but I pick Messi. He is out of this world. Ronaldo too, but I see Leo as more complete."
"With his incredible attitude, with his incredible winning mentality, Cristiano Ronaldo is a unique player," he told Bild.
"But I admit that Lionel Messi brings even more magic to football.
"With his dribbling, his complete form of playing football and his ability to generate surprising situations in the attacks."
Still on the quote battle. 
I’d have thought the Messi brigade should be busy blaming Higuain if Argentina fail to beat Qatar and he retires again.
I’d have thought the Messi brigade should be busy blaming Higuain if Argentina fail to beat Qatar and he retires again.
I'm going by how great he was at his peak, so his peak years being cut short by injuries doesn't make any difference to my opinion on how good he was at his peak. It's not like he only did it for a year ot two. I can see the argumnnt for Messi being better, but the only thing CR7 has over R9 was length of career at the top level. In terms of peaktime talent, R9 was way better! R9 never played in a World Cup finals when fully fit. Indeed, in one, he barely looked half fit, yet he still ended up being the alltime leading scorer in World Cup final. A fully fit Messi or CR7 never had the impact on World Cups that half fit R9 had. That's a fact, not an opinion!
Luiz Ronaldo's best ever season was which one? The one at Barca or the first one at Inter? Not even as good as C Ronaldo's 6th best season at Real Madrid.Also, all time leading WC goalscorer is Klose.
Still on the quote battle.
It’s not a battle, it’s a walkover.
The only ones who seem to care are you lot.
Also, all time leading WC goalscorer is Klose.
And yet he should be better than CR7 according to your own metric that a player should be measured by how much he can improve a poor, disjointed team (Inter).
R9 could bulldoze past 3-4 defenders on his own, and I mean really beat them. CR7 can barely beat a player and relies on his teammates feeding him good balls.
I don’t agree that R9 is better than CR7 btw, but by your own silly logic he should be.
Barca 96/97 finished 2nd, after selling Luiz Ronaldo, they won La Liga in 97/98
Inter finished 6pts behind Juve in 96/97, after signing Luiz Ronaldo at his supposed peak, they finished 5pts behind Juve in 97/98.
Barca 96/97 finished 2nd, after selling Luiz Ronaldo, they won La Liga in 97/98
Inter finished 6pts behind Juve in 96/97, after signing Luiz Ronaldo at his supposed peak, they finished 5pts behind Juve in 97/98.
Inter 96-97: 59 points with 51 goals.
Inter 97-98: 69 points with 62 goals.
Juventus 17-18: 95 points with 86 goals.
Juventus 18-19: 90 points with 70 goals.
Clearly the fact that Juve didn't win any of the last 5 Serie A games because they had already won the title had nothing to do with it.Inter 96-97: 59 points with 51 goals.
Inter 97-98: 69 points with 62 goals.
Juventus 17-18: 95 points with 86 goals.
Juventus 18-19: 90 points with 70 goals.
Podolski had more impact on the WC than Thierry Henry, Steven Gerrard, Robert Pires or Paul Scholes, basing your opinion on whether or not a player was better than the other on a knock out competition that happens once every four years is not a good way to compare players, imo.
Messi was a Gotze goal in the ET away from possibly winning the WC with that atrocious Argentine side, had a good tournament overall, too.
Clearly the fact that Juve didn't win any of the last 5 Serie A games because they had already won the title had nothing to do with it.
Why do you think Allegri was sacked?
They didn’t just lie down and die; their catastrophic end to the season was a major reason for his departure. Jeez.It wasn’t that long Juve won the league by 17 points twice in a row under Allegri. And Ronaldo has never been known for holding back when he can pad his stats.
Why do you think Allegri was sacked?
It wasn’t that long Juve won the league by 17 points twice in a row under Allegri. And Ronaldo has never been known for holding back when he can pad his stats.
That's funny coming from the Messi brigade.
What are you talking about? Tostao pointed out that Ronaldo had Getafe as his primary victim in La Liga, whereas Messi’s biggest victims were Real Madrid, Atletico Madrid, Sevilla and Valencia. So essentially the 4 strongest teams in all of La Liga bar Barcelona
A clear indicator that he held back against the minnows and easily could have scored more against them.
He has also given away more penalties to teammates.
I've never seen a 34 year old L.Ronaldo beat any defender at all. Are you seriously comparing a 19 year old L.Ronaldo with 34 year old CR7 here?
Perhaps you have a bad memory, but 19-27 year old CR7 can bulldoze past any defenders regularly with ease too.
Yea, let's talk about what he did in the Xaviesta era.What are you talking about? Tostao pointed out that Ronaldo had Getafe as his primary victim in La Liga, whereas Messi’s biggest victims were Real Madrid, Atletico Madrid, Sevilla and Valencia. So essentially the 4 strongest teams in all of La Liga bar Barcelona
A clear indicator that he held back against the minnows and easily could have scored more against them.
He has also given away more penalties to teammates.
Messi scoring 2 or more in La Liga
18/19: Alves, Huesca, Betis, Espanyol, Levante, Valencia, Seville, Betis, Espanyol, Eibar
17/18: Alaves, Espanyol, Eibar, Las Palmas, Betis, Girona, Leganes, Deportivo
I wonder why he doesn't score multiple goals against RM or AM any more.
Still waiting for YOUR top three. The 'obvious' ones.
Lots of players scored more goals than R9. What does than prove? I am talking about his individual ability at his peak and he was streets ahead of CR7! Too many lable R9 as just a centre forward, which simply was not the case at all. He could and did destroy teams on his own, picking the ball up anywhere from just inside his own half or from the wings surrounded by players and leave them for dead. Klose took the record from Ronaldo. I'm a massive Messi fan, but on he biggest stage of all, he sadly under performed, while a half fit, clearly not at his best Ronaldo, still did the business.
Also, all time leading WC goalscorer is Klose.
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