Origi and the other guy both scored two goals and Messi didnt score any but hes the greatest player of all time trust me lo l
Messi v Ronaldo | Contains double your daily salt allowance
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Valverde decisions were poor (subs far too reactive) but the team were too... all of them.
impossible with only 3 or 4 goals in CL.
Closing the poll again is a brillaint wind up to be fair
Messi is just one Suarez or Alba not missing a sitter away from being good.
I thought it was an obvious wind up I’m surprised so many people actually cried about it
Messi is the only forward in the world who is a passenger in defence. It's a lot easier to attack and contribute goals and assists when you run only when the team attacks.
I'm not saying I disagree but can you provide some evidence to back it up?
More respect for the best player of his generation please.
After all those years people have watched both of them, there are still some who claim Ronaldo is a better all-around player.
When was the last season Ronaldo managed to consistently pick the ball in midfield or in the wings and dribble past players ? Probably 2009-10. Messi has been doing it for 15 years while scoring basically the same amount of goals with way less games played...
When was the last season Ronaldo managed to consistently pick the ball in midfield or in the wings and dribble past players ? Probably 2009-10. Messi has been doing it for 15 years while scoring basically the same amount of goals with way less games played...
I heard he played as Messi on FIFA 19 in a 90 minute game of Liverpool v Barca and he won 0-3, so I think we all know who the real winner is.
You keep saying this, but what potential?
Coutinho is a bust. Suarez a shell of himself. Their midfield is miles worse than it was under Pep.
Now I agree with you regarding mentality. Their collective mentality is shit. I don't know if that stems from Valverde or from Messi, but their mentality is awful. When you're up 3-0 in a CL semi-final, you should never blow that lead.
Who cares? It's quite a funny WUM TBH. If you hadn't dedicated your life to defending Ronaldo on the internet, this wouldn't matter.
Exactly, Messi is great when his team is in control (Xaviesta era), but if you need him to turn a tie or rescue a game? He hides.
Closing the poll again is a brillaint wind up to be fair
Messi is just one Suarez or Alba not missing a sitter away from being good.
One Saurez. One Alba. One Higuin. Poor Messi, everyone missing for him. What about when these players score for him? He had his chance to win it for Barca. He didn't. He bottled again.
Great (and maybe even arguably GOAT player) but let's not act like he doesn't have a weakness.
Sure.
*Last week Messi scores 2 goals poll opened
*This week Messi chokes poll closed
* the excuse made in terms of anything Ronaldo has accomplished is worth nothing the moment Messi does something great.
* lastly if Messi won a 3 peat of CL and had a copa America to his name while Ronaldo choked two 3 goal leads and lost 4 finals in a row this thread would be closed by now. And you and everyone here knows that.
That's only 4 and 1 is a hypothetical, can you provide more evidence?
You call it clutch, i call it Ramos, Bale, Benzema and Karius saving CR7's ass time and time again. Oh and also Real Madrid not conceding a shitton of goals while still expecting CR7 to solve it all.
CR7 "clutchness" its pretty much his teammates showing up time and time again on semis and finals, that doesnt make him a better player than Messi. If today Pique scores a 90'+ header to put Barcelona trough, doesnt make Messi better or worse.
They are the players the are and nothing can change that. Their teammates, team results, awards etc wont ever change that. Messi is a better football player, and this season alone has been 5 times the player CR7 has been, and nothing will change that. CR7 has had his clutch moments yes just as he had too moments of completely dissapearing from the game and his team winning the game for him.
Poor Messi.
Playing with no quality players his entire career. Such a shame.
...he’s lucky to have scored that free kick and the first goal being a walk in. He was pocketed the 1st half of the 1st leg and the entire game today.
Nothing new.
Your point? Also to the stats part Ronaldo was an out and out winger for his first 3 to 4 season in his career. Messi has always been a player to get into the box.
It's supposed to be funny?I thought it was an obvious wind up I’m surprised so many people actually cried about it
Course he does, the fecking walking around when they dont have the ball for one. How do his teammates put up with that shite. You're good we get it, doesnt mean you could put in a bit of effort too.
These two has-beens aside. If pool win the CL, I think everyone's favorite defender is in with a shout for the balon.....
Sure, nobody got that... What's not obvious is why are 12 year olds staffers here? I am sure that Troll Football cesspit still exists.I thought it was an obvious wind up I’m surprised so many people actually cried about it
A mod pulls a prank on the most meaningless poll ever conceived and people start acting like all their human rights have been stripped away from them. Can't you see that they did it just to get a reaction from you guys?
That's a ridiculous and simplistic way to look at it.
Essentially all you're saying is that a player is less effective with inferior teammates.
I’m not going back and forth with you. Its obvious to see in this forum it’s always been like that and the obvious evidence was today. Is there proof proof no ( I’m assuming that’s the answer you want) but it’s pretty easy to see.
I’m sure it was that.
Unimaginable.
It doesn't matter, but it's just bad taste.
Great idea for mods to close the poll. Love the meltdown by some on here. Your most hated rivals have just got to the champions league final and all you want to do is to push the narrative that a player who couldn’t wait to get out of Utd is the goat
I thought it was an obvious wind up I’m surprised so many people actually cried about it
Tbf this thread is pretty bitter at the best of times so not a particularly good wind up, just looks like staff bias more than anything else
Probably a bit grating for the pro Ronaldo lot because they're usually outnumbered by the Messi ones
It's a daft poll on the internet man, it isn't that serious.
But, seeing as how you're so interested in the poll, it was rigged from the start. Messi was away ahead to begin with then because of all the arguing the mods just put them tied and closed it so people would shut up. Unless you genuinely believe that it was just a coincidence that they had the exact same amount of votes...
Whoever closed the poll is a legend was it you @Snowle Gunnar Solskjær
was it you @Snowle Gunnar SolskjærGreat idea for mods to close the poll. Love the meltdown by some on here. Your most hated rivals have just got to the champions league final and all you want to do is to push the narrative that a player who couldn’t wait to get out of Utd is the goat
.. After winning 3 leagues and a CL, and reaching the final of another, at the age of 23.
It's supposed to be funny?
It's so very obviously that. Some of the stars of this thread are just too invested to realize how much of a joke it is to the overwhelming majority.
It's sort of a WUM playground where the normal laws of the internet dont apply.
There was that time Damien posted a screenshot with the mod forum in view and there was a thread suspiciously called "Messi does what Ronaldon't" or something like that in the list. He quickly deleted it of course, but it makes you think.
I didn't even vote but i thought it was a hell of a stupid idea to reopen it.
50-50 was perfect.
50-50 was perfect.
Oh cry me a river. As if Messi did not have the greatest team of all time for half of his career. Ask any true sports analyst and they will tell you how mental toughness is just as important as talent. The best player debate was put to bed in 2016.
I've decided not to read this post because I dont want my feelings challenged. Apologies for wasting your time. Good luck in future polls.
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