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Messi or Ronaldo

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Thanks gosh i cynically shifted my vote to Ronaldo again yesterday. You need to be kidding. Every single time the situation is awful someone else will need to arrive like in "la remontada" or he will just give up.
 
Three assists tonight waisted.
Hard to blame Messi for this, though, is it? Barca play bad in both legs. Scores two goals in the first leg and puts two men through on goal in this one. If any of them score, we're talking about 1-2 assists in this game.

You can make an argument for Barca bottling it, but you can't make an argument that Messi didn't score or create in both legs.
The desperation of the Messi brigade. :lol: Ronaldo's team mates never missed any chances?

What happened to Messi creates most of the goals himself?
 
he had one chance himself + created 3 clear chances for others. literally the only one who created anything tonight. I know we are all angry because Barca let this happen, but come on guys.
 
That doesn't take away the fact that in the last 10 minutes of the game the ball was around him and he was walking.

Walking to save energy? for tactical reasons? to prevent injuries? because you want to mislead the defenders? I'm okay with all of that, but you can't miss a ball in the 89'th minutes, and watch how Sergi Roberto presses the defenders while you walk around and turn your back on the pressure, there's NOTHING else to play for at that moment and still he doesn't try...

Please tell me this is satire and you don't actually believe this?
 
The amount of Redcafe forum members who have now come back to this thread to change their poll vote back to Ronaldo after the Liverpool/Barca game...

Fickle much :D:D:D:D:D
 
That doesn't take away the fact that in the last 10 minutes of the game the ball was around him and he was walking.

Walking to save energy? for tactical reasons? to prevent injuries? because you want to mislead the defenders? I'm okay with all of that, but you can't miss a ball in the 89'th minutes, and watch how Sergi Roberto presses the defenders while you walk around and turn your back on the pressure, there's NOTHING else to play for at that moment and still he doesn't try...
I'm glad you have the guts to admit it, much respect. Already Messi fans are out defending his performance out of pure bias.
 
Even when juve were crashing out, Ronaldo still scored. I'd like to think that he would have scored today. Messi tried, but couldn't clutch.
 
Also missed and easy chance first half in the box.

One chance, maybe. I can tell you a handful of times when Ronaldo missed just as easy a chance in a crucial game that his team lost in when they played poorly collectively. It's offset by how effective that player is throughout the game. If a player puts through 2-3 players for one-on-ones then that's not an argument for ineffectiveness, surely?

It's not a bottlejob when you're the only player that created a scoring chance for anyone else.
 
I just find it hilarious last week Messi scores 2 goals and everyone here is having an orgy ....”poll reopened to truly decide who the best is”

*one week later Messi CHOKES AGAIN for more times then I can count on my hands

“Poll closed to avoid knee jerk reaction”
 
The desperation of the Messi brigade. :lol: Ronaldo's team mates never missed any chances?

What happened to Messi creates most of the goals himself?
Hard to say when his game turned into wait the ball in the box for a header or a pen. :lol:
 
I think he did alright. Had some distance shots, but his teammates couldnt convert the better chances he served them up. He isnt as good away from home, neither is Barca. Could have done something magical, but when things get tough in the last few years, he usually doesnt turn up with a goal away from home.
 
Jesus, I didn't even vote in this shit but to re-do the poll after the first leg and now to close it because Messi played like shit is absolutely pathetic by whoever the feck is doing it.
 
"GOAT" "Greatest of all time" "Easily the best ever" FECK outta here.

Don't anyone EVER say that again! as I have said MANY times Messi is the more TALENTED of the two bur Ronaldo is the best PLAYER. Always has been always will be.

Messi does not have that "thing" he does not have that X factor nor the mental fortitude to be the GOAT he does not have the thing that makes Tom Brady, Michael Jordan and....Cristiano Ronaldo the best.

I have always said this ALWAYS! I truly can be arsed by what anyone says right now TWO seasons in a row he let a 3 goal lead slip...thats your GOAT? Ronaldo would NEVER let it happen and all of you know that. Ronaldo would never let this slip and certainly not back to back. Just like he would NEVER lose 3 finals in a row.

The difference is some players SCORE 3 goals to claw their team back from a 2 goal deficit while the other lets TWO 2 goal leads SLIP back to back.

Enough of this. Like I said this debate ended 2016. Copa Americas, World Cup, TWO back to back 3 goal leads....sorry guys Messi just does not have IT.

Football is not just talent and the intangibles are just as valuable no matter which way you put it.

Anyone who says "its not even close" or "Goat" should not even get a response. He is not even the best of this generation let alone the goat.

He could've lost 10 - 0 tonight and it wouldn't have changed a thingm Dunno about all time but he's the best of his generation and yes, it isn't close IMO :)
 
One chance, maybe. I can tell you a handful of times when Ronaldo missed just as easy a chance in a crucial game that his team lost in when they played poorly collectively. It's offset by how effective that player is throughout the game. If a player puts through 2-3 players for one-on-ones then that's not an argument for ineffectiveness, surely?

It's not a bottlejob when you're the only player that created a scoring chance for anyone else.
Dude let it go! You can not make a fecking excuse for back to back seasons CHOKING and CHOKING in FOUR fecking finals man you simply can’t. If you can sit here and say Ronaldo would let happen everything I just wrote you are lying to yourself.

The greatest player of this generation is Cristiano Ronaldo period.
 
The desperation of the Messi brigade. :lol: Ronaldo's team mates never missed any chances?

What happened to Messi creates most of the goals himself?

Messi created the only chances tonight that were scoring chances. It's an argument for his effectiveness and an argument for his teammates ineffectiveness. If he didn't create those chances you could argue he didn't show up, but he did, therefore, he's excused. Be objective Cal.
 
Keep telling that to yourself, maybe you convince yourself that he is shit.
Big, gaping chasm between being shit and just not being the greatest of all time. I've said he's the most talented and the player with the highest ceiling, but being the best and being the greatest are two different things to me. The greatest show up at crunch time and decide games. The "Messi is the GOAT" brigade will look at games like these and say "He played beautifully. GOAT GOAT GOAT". Maybe he did, but they still fecking lost, and that has happened too often with Messi now that it can't be held against him.
 
Closed the poll? :lol::lol: Is Infantino in charge of this thread?

Unbelievable. @Cal? give up mate, give up.
I just find it hilarious last week Messi scores 2 goals and everyone here is having an orgy ....”poll reopened to truly decide who the best is”

*one week later Messi CHOKES AGAIN for more times then I can count on my hands

“Poll closed to avoid knee jerk reaction”
Let the storm calm. :lol:

As if anyone will ever take this poll seriously again after the shameless vote farming. :wenger:
 
People on this forum are mental, one game can decide their opinion on a player. One bloody game. He didn't even play badly, anyone with a brain can see it was not Messi who put Liverpool through.

Enough with this "Ronaldo would never let this happen" pish. He has done in the past. Simply because football is an 11-a-side sport. End of story.
 
Please tell me this is satire and you don't actually believe this?

I didn't want to believe it when I saw it, but at some point, the mental football has to go through the window, and you just have to put all your heart in something.

He took the ball 3 times in the last 10 minutes and almost dribbled the whole Liverpool team? okay, but he also lost a couple balls that were within reach and never made an effort to get it back (except the last one vs Fabinho), anyone could see how bad we were playing and that earning 5 meters on Pool's half was impossible for anyone bar Leo, when you have a chance to get it back in the rival area, at least look like you're trying!
 
He could've lost 10 - 0 tonight and it wouldn't have changed a thingm Dunno about all time but he's the best of his generation and yes, it isn't close IMO :)
Your deluded he does not have what Ronaldo has because you have to be born with it and it is not taught. This debate ended In 2016 and even more so after the past 2 seasons.
 
How did he do in the eye test today
 
I just find it hilarious last week Messi scores 2 goals and everyone here is having an orgy ....”poll reopened to truly decide who the best is”

*one week later Messi CHOKES AGAIN for more times then I can count on my hands

“Poll closed to avoid knee jerk reaction”

Tell em bro
 
This is hilarious, one minute poll open for the Messi fans boys, next they are swinging back to Ronaldo!
This thread is fecking biased. I have said it since day one. Yet again proven right.
 
'Poll closed to let the storm calm' :lol:

Proper Russian style politics going on here.

'Poll shall be reopened when Messi scores his next hattrick'

Should not have reopened it at 50-50.
 
Ronaldo:

3 Champions League Titles BACK TO BACK
1 International Trophy.

No polls needed!
 
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