I didn't say Messi was better than Pele but if we want a comparison between them it must be someone who got a chance to witness Pele at his prime so that the comparison makes any sense.
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I didn't say Messi was better than Pele but if we want a comparison between them it must be someone who got a chance to witness Pele at his prime so that the comparison makes any sense.
Believe it or not I wouldn't even put Cristiano in the top 5, but its always dangerous this type of lists, I already said a lot of times here, I was crazy about Michael Laudrup even knowing Maradona or even Zico and Platini were better.
Same thing for Cristiano, I liked more Figo or even Futre knowing Cristiano is better than the 2 together.
Fergie himself said he's easily on their level, Simeone said he's certainly better then Maradona and Wenger said he's the best of all time. even some of our players who played with Ronaldo said Messi is the best player they've ever seen, like Rooney and Roy Keane for example. there's plenty of them who think Messi is the best tbf, J. Terry also being one of them.
Absolutely, in the recent times whenever I have time I watch old matches of Laudrup playing for the Danish NT from the 80's, its not the same thing but gives you a better impression related with the development of the game.
Nothing wrong with that, if you ask older Madrid fans they will say Di Stefano or even Puskas, reason why there is never consensus related with the expression the greatest ever.
I respectfully disagree with them.
My mother says I am the best player ever
I think a far more useful poll would have been to ask what age these posters are.
I’m sold!
Well, I don't speak Spanish, so I just go with the translations online.
The first time you’ve been resoundingly caught out.
The reporter asked if ronaldo was Real Madrid’s greatest ever player.
If you could find something that’s not from someone who’s currently managing him that would be great. Mourinho said similar.
Hahahahahaha
Don’t you find it strange that their are no neutral players/managers who call him the best in history? I think I’ve seen Cruyff, Maradona, Pele, Messi, Di stefano and Beckenbauer all be called that by a fair few neutral professional players/managers (past and present) but not one saying it about ronaldo. From what I can see, not one expert claims he’s the best ever. Why is that? Because undoubtedly, the players and managers know more than you and I ever will.
Not at all, players and managers say whatever they like all the time. How many players not connected to Barca have called Messi the best ever?
It has triggered a few people alright.
They all have their reasons, Arsenal lose to Barca in the last 16 almost every year back then, makes it sound better for Arsene if he builds up Messi as the mythical super hero.
Keane never got over the way he left United, continually badmouthing Sir Alex and Ronaldo at every turn.
I could go on...
And I was thinking this was an underwhelming list then realized it contains a top 3 manager in PL history, one of the greatest if not the greatest captain of Man Utd, the best player in Chelsea’s history, man utds record goalscorer, and Gerry Armstrong and Mario Gomez.
@Cal? come on Mate this doesn’t answer my question, why don’t they say it about Ronaldo? Why didn’t Allegri come out and say it?
And if you’re going to use Roy Keane as an example, how come ibrahimovic devoted the beginning of his book to slamming Guardiola and Barcelona but still doesn’t choose ronaldo?
2 of the top 3 managers ever have said Ronaldo is the best, but of course you'd just claim Sir Alex & Jose are biased.
Frankly, what managers say are best taken with a pinch of salt.
If Wenger and Mario Gomez say then its sky rocket science, in fact whenever I want to know what best ever is I always want to hear Wenger 
or Mario Gomez come on try something else for heavens sake.
or Mario Gomez come on try something else for heavens sake.Did Zlatan choose Messi though? It's not an A or B choice, Zlatan probably thinks himself the best.
If Wenger and Mario Gomez say then its sky rocket science, in fact whenever I want to know what best ever is I always want to hear Wenger
Yeah wengers opinion completely worthless. Cut it out.
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Actually, I didn't bother to watch it earlier.
He says he prefers Messi, didn't say Messi is better.
Sir Alex, Jose.... 2 of the best managers EVER
Can you explain then why Messi is the best player ever? I already said Cristiano isn't, unless you want to say he is because Guardiola or Xavi say it...
Is his 5 Ballon d'Or, voted by "experts" not enough prove?
You just asked me not to name people connected to Barcelona who named Messi the best ever
I’ll be here a while if we are writing a list of people who are connected to Barcelona who call him the best ever. Jesus wept man.
I’m pretty sure Ferguson said he was the best he coached, don’t think he ever claimed him as the best ever.
It’s enough to prove he won the individual award for that season. This is a greatest ever discussion. I’m sure some people would change there tune if it was a best ever award, on both sides no doubt.
Sir Alex said Ronaldo is better than Messi.You just asked me not to name people connected to Barcelona who named Messi the best ever
I’ll be here a while if we are writing a list of people who are connected to Barcelona who call him the best ever. Jesus wept man.
I’m pretty sure Ferguson said he was the best he coached, don’t think he ever claimed him as the best ever.
Anyway, as @Isotope pointed out, the so called experts vote in the Ballon D'or...
So Ronaldo has been better than Messi in more seasons than Messi has been better than Ronaldo in the opinion of the "experts".
Jose said this 2 years ago: https://www.express.co.uk/sport/foo...-Mourinho-Top-Three-Players-Messi-Not-Ronaldo
You are completely clutching here. That’s not the basis a best ever discussion would work and you know it.
Jose also said this:
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...tiano-ronaldo-is-the-best-in-the-8209214.html
Like I said, what managers say is best not taken too seriously.
How about if he win it another 10 times. Would it be still not enough for you?
How am I clutching?
The experts in the football world think that Ronaldo was the better player 6 out of the past 11 years. FACT!
So if he's been better for the majority of time, surely he's the better player? Simple logic.
don't insist, he's got an answer for everything it's almost funny
Best player ever means what? Best playmaker? Best goalscorer? Most influential player in the development of the game?
Just to answer my original question here since it hasn’t been, the experts don’t call him the best ever because he isn’t. Not one unbiased current/ex professional footballer/managers has said it. He has rightfully been voted the best player in the world many times but collectively it’s not enough for anyone of note to say he’s the best they’ve ever seen. Tells you all you need to know.
I have no issues with preferring ronaldo to messi, but it crosses the line when you call him the best footballer ever. He’s fecking not.
I have no issues with preferring ronaldo to messi, but it crosses the line when you call him the best footballer ever. He’s fecking not.
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