Your clearly trolling because not even a fanboy can call zidanes supporting cast 'average'.
That team were called the galiticos for a reason mainly because they were so many world class players on one team
But anyway agree to disagree
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That team were called the galiticos for a reason mainly because they were so many world class players on one team
But anyway agree to disagree
Average in compared to Messi/Ronaldo's team mates. Being a galatico doesn't mean all were on worldclass level.
The midfield alone was held by Zidane only, he was expected to create and at the same time to control the tempo. The forwards were good but not very talented, save for Figo.
Zidane's team were good compared to other top club's team and better but compared to Messi's and Ronaldo, it was average, especially Messi's team mates in Pep's 1st year.
In addition, Zidane and Totti's never depended on pace and as such, were fantastic into their mid and late 30's, whereras loss of a yard of pace is already affecting Messi and we all know what will happen to Ronaldo, if he happens to lose such attribute.
The likes of Totti and Zidane usually moves on the ball at a slow pace, almost like they are walking on it, yet it's quite difficult to dispossess them off it. That even makes their technique much more impressive.
Like I said earlier, the most exciting player in my own era, is Ronaldinho while the most elegant player for me, is Zidane/Totti.
The likes of Totti and Zidane usually moves on the ball at a slow pace, almost like they are walking on it, yet it's quite difficult to dispossess them off it. That even makes their technique much more impressive.
Like I said earlier, the most exciting player in my own era, is Ronaldinho while the most elegant player for me, is Zidane/Totti.
Brazilian Ronaldo wasn't very talented?
For me, he is without doubt the greatest football player of all time. In this day and age who the feck has the right to score 73 goals in a single season? Not even Pele, Mardadona, Ronaldo, C Ronaldo, Falcao, Van Persie, Ronaldhino, Johan Cruyf have managed anything close to that. Pele is the closest with 60 something goals in a season but even C Ronaldo has that.
I understand goals isn't everything but Messi has it all, his Passing and shooting accuracy is literally 99.9999%. He will be in his prime at the next world cup and so will a lot of other Argentina players like Aguero, Di Maria and Higiuan, the 2018 world cup is the one i expect him to make his own, I think he will do well in this one as well, 2 goals in 2 goals ain't a bad start now is it.
Simply the greatest.
I understand goals isn't everything but Messi has it all, his Passing and shooting accuracy is literally 99.9999%. He will be in his prime at the next world cup and so will a lot of other Argentina players like Aguero, Di Maria and Higiuan, the 2018 world cup is the one i expect him to make his own, I think he will do well in this one as well, 2 goals in 2 goals ain't a bad start now is it.
Simply the greatest.
Of course. It's probably the most drab topic of conversation over here. But in general, on face value, the simple of question of who the greatest is, at any sport, is one that is intriguing to the mind. I don't disagree with anything you're saying btw.
93 goals*
Are you on fecking drugs? The forwards were not very talented? For christ sake they had Raul up front and Ronaldo Luis. Zidane was holding the midfield alone, yet had players like Beckham in midfield with him.
The fact you've just said Totti is a better player than Messi despite the gross number of goals Messi scores and the manner in which he does it is honestly astounding. Are you a WUM, because I certainly hope so.
I already made my opinion known on Ronaldo, no need to repeat myself.Brazilian Ronaldo wasn't very talented?
Ronaldo was always injured.
Did I say better? I said more talented and skillful, learn to comprehend better pls. And as matter of fact, Totti would have been regarded as such, if he had fantastic supporting cast Messi had at early age. He's still the most elegant player for me, after Zidane.
On Raul, he was a good player, a legend but nothing special and no need to keep repeating myself on Ronaldo.
Not fit to lace ronnys boots. Cristiano did it on a cold night at the brittania.
cafu
walter samuel
aldair
candela
emerson
nakata
marcos assuncao
g d'agostino
delvecchio
batistuta
montella
et totti
that's a ridiculously fecking good team. A scudetto winning side for Totti at the age of 24
Those are only names that ring a bell in me, meaning they were the only names that's still being mentioned today as legend eventhough I didn't watch them play.
And as a matter of fact, they were also in their 30's at that time, save for Walter Samuel. That means they went downhill in the subsequent years. Also, Totti played more like a playmaker than a forward, that year.
Totti was never as talented as Messi
How can you be a legend but only a 'good player'
Move Messi to another club and see what happens. Not so great in the NT either...One trick pony.
He clearly,is a wum
He doesnt make sense
Zidanes madrid cast was 'average'
He's not a WUM, he's just talking about a player he idolised as a kid but didn't see much of. It's just one of those things.
PSG trying to buy Messi.
shit rumours never ends
shit rumours never ends
Klose is a legend, Gerd Muller is a legend. However both are nothing special, just like Raul. Understood?Totti was never as talented as Messi
How can you be a legend but only a 'good player'
Klose is a legend, Gerd Muller is a legend. However both are nothing special, just like Raul. Understood?Totti was never as talented as Messi
How can you be a legend but only a 'good player'
so if you didnt watch them play, how can you say that totti wasn't surrounded by good players as messi was?
its funny, he been relatively poor at this world cup yet has scored 2 excellent goals which has turned out to be the winner in both games, although the whole team will need to improve a fair bit if they are to go on and win this world cup.
I watched plenty of games when Totti was in his prime, for Italy NT and Roma. That includes the year when Roma won Serie A after Batistuta arrived from Fiorentina. They had a great team. Nakata was the main substitute for Totti. Totti impressed me most as an intelligent player with great version, passing range and skill. He can play as an advanced attacking midflielder as well as a forward. His skill on the ball and close control IMO isn't as smooth as other Italian attacking players like Roberto Baggio, Del Piero and Cassano.
Totti was a great player for sure, but more talented than Messi? Absolutely no way. Pretty sure the majority of people who've watched both would agree that Messi is the more talented one. Messi easily egdgs Totti in dribbling, finishing and ball control. It's much more difficult to mark Messi out of game compared to Totti. Both are excellent creative passer with great vision. One thing Totti was extradionary at, and better than Messi is one touch passing with either foot. Totti is really good at that with incredible accuracy and range.
Totti was a great player for sure, but more talented than Messi? Absolutely no way. Pretty sure the majority of people who've watched both would agree that Messi is the more talented one. Messi easily egdgs Totti in dribbling, finishing and ball control. It's much more difficult to mark Messi out of game compared to Totti. Both are excellent creative passer with great vision. One thing Totti was extradionary at, and better than Messi is one touch passing with either foot. Totti is really good at that with incredible accuracy and range.
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Someone gives T.banty10 a medal. Madrid midfield was average, Ronaldo wasn't that great, Totti better than Messi and somehow despite liking Totti (so I guess by default he should have watched a lot of Roma) remembers only a few of their players and somehow remembers Samuel but not Aldair who was a far greater player and is very likely the best ever central defender of Roma.
Do you think the likes of Xavi, Iniesta, Puyol, Eto'o, Henry, even Villa, won't continue to get mentioned in the next generation?
How do you think I got to know who Batistuta and Cafu were? Jeez...
Those aint my word but yours, get it right or shut it.
I said Zidane's team mates in compared to Messi/Ronaldo's were average and fat Ronaldo was always injured.
Lastly, you should be aware I wouldn't likely know Totti's team mates in his early years. It's quite amazing people like you compare Totti's team mates to Messi/Ronaldo's team mates in a similar way. It's asnine.
I think you should learn to 'comprehend better' because your comprehension of anything football is pretty pathetic.
Totti is generally horrendously underrated, but to say he is more skilful or talented than Messi is absurd.
I can accept there are players more enjoyable to watch than Messi. You'd have to be a special kind of 'tard to equate that with 'better player', 'more talented' or 'more skilful' though. Messi is easily and obviously the most technically gifted player since Maradona.
I can accept there are players more enjoyable to watch than Messi. You'd have to be a special kind of 'tard to equate that with 'better player', 'more talented' or 'more skilful' though. Messi is easily and obviously the most technically gifted player since Maradona.
The same Cassano that was struggling on the ball against Costa Rica has better touch than Totti, how am I sure you aint Malva?
Anyway, Totti's control and techniques on the ball remains the best for me. He's one of the player who's difficult to displace on the ball.
Also, I don't know how you can boldly say Totti's teammates were great, especially when compared to the Milan's team in the same league. Even in the year A.S Roma won the scudetto, the most important players were already aging.
The same Messi who continues to lose possession cheaply once he lost a yard of pace has the best technique? Maybe for you but not for me. And you don't even know much of Maradonna you're comparing Messi to.
And it takes 'a tard person to know one.
I did hit a nerve.
This is why we shouldn't have newbies in the WC forum.
'Totti is more talented and skilful than Messi.'
That is one of the most stupid statements I have ever read on a football forum. FFS!!
That is one of the most stupid statements I have ever read on a football forum. FFS!!
Why no love for defenders/midfielders in these debates?
He was on a similar wind-up about Kagawa in another thread so I wouldn't pay it much heed. Especially if he has never heard of Candela, Emerson or Aldair (amongst others) and hadn't seen that much of Zidane...
So being unlucky with injuries means he wasn't talented? Not sure where you're coming from with this.
Yet you were the first to resort to insult, maturity indeed.
The awkward moment when Totti doesn't need pace to be in control and do his magic. It's quite stupid to some people though.
I'm sure you're one of those who pull out bullshit fact from no where in Kagawa's which I put where they belong.
Anyway, I didn't follow Totti in his early years but even at that, the names mentioned above do not strike fears except for people trying to upgrade Totti's team in order to justify their opinion.