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Messi at the World Cup - No Ronaldo comparisons!
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This is a load of utter shit.
Ronaldo's touch is fecking fantastic, one of the top touches in the world, easily. But in the game today, only Antonio Cassano has a better touch then Messi, and he's someone i regard supreme throughout history considering first touches.
What you said there was god damn hilarious. Ronaldo doesn't take many touches before getting it under control unlike messi?
Then what the hell is this
and Messi has always had a better touch then iniesta. Iniesta is just more stylish and romantic of a player so that people assume due to his graceful ways that he's a touch god, but frankly there are a couple of players that have as good a touch as iniesta. No one has a better touch then Messi in the game today other then Cassano.
Saying Messi's technique is overrated is hilarious. just laughable.
Next i'm going to hear people say Messi's shortness is overrated, or that Ronaldo is better then Messi at being short.
Ronaldo's touch is far better than Messi's. It's not even debatable.
I quite agree Messi has a better balance on the ball due to his low centre of gravity and quick burst but even now, he has lost that yard of pace and as such, loses the ball frequently than ever before.
Lastly, it's a shame you talk of cassano having the best touch when there's Totti, who has the best technique in today's game.
Not only has this thread been a proper newbie thread with everyone diverting it in the wrong direction but it's also thrown up some laughable gems like this. Well done.
are you trolling now? This is a laughable statement
You are not only new to this forum you also new to football it seemsdoes that 10 in your username indicate your age
I hope Messi has a great World Cup. Want to see lots of dribbling, creativity and goals.
What people fail to realize is there's a difference between first touch and ball control.
Anyway, I have my opinion, other have theirs and I believe Ronaldo has the better touch.
Cal? was right afterall, Messi's fanboi are just not reasonable.
Messi is the best at pelanties because he is left hey how's it going.
if that was the true case, then you'd not argue with me about cassano, but you did, and so you contradict yourself. i talked about first touch. in terms of first touch, i think cassano is top 5 all time.
oh shut the feck up. just go feck off. this is the worst fecking cnut argument i've ever seen on here. i could give a shit about anything else, but when you say ronaldo has an undebatably better first touch, and then call other people fan boys, it's really fecking sickening.
can't you make a ronaldo vs messi thread and post your views on there ffs?
Do you think Messi could get banned for "reason of his constant puking"?
In terms of first touch and control, Totti is the best right now. So I wasn't wrong when I challenged you.
Back to Messi, maybe Messi's touch isn't far off Ronaldo's but Ronaldo still has the better touch and I gave my reasons. It's now up to you to give your reasons for debating the notion and not resorting to insult. That's quite low and childish.
went the sound of the pen of the man, on his own death warrant.
Well this thread has been wrecked...
Why would he? As long as he's not puking on anyone's face, it's no one business.
It's only the internet mate
anyway they're newbie trolls, they should have a WC section without the newb trolls.
That's one of the worst comments to date. Messi's best ability is scoring ridiculous number of goals and you can beat any team if you out score them (obviously) so therefore if Messi preforms at his best he can win games on his own no matter how ''bad'' their defense is. Also their defense is not as bad as everyone makes it out to be, apart from their LB position they have great defenders. CB : Garay, Campagnaro, Demichelis and even the possibly of Mascherano if needs be. As for RB you have City's very own Zabeleta, brilliant player.
I was going to reply to that but didn't know if its a genuine question or notOne of the better reads on Messi and the WC
Great read, Cant believe that Argentina arent too keen on him. IF he was English, he would be a god lol.
If he was English and under performed at the tournaments like he has so far whilst dominating at club level, then he'd probably be slaughtered by your press and booed by your fans, just like the rest of them.
The thing is, according to that article, the Argentinians simply don't like him because they don't think he is Argentinian enough. He lacks passion etc. Not because of his performances.
Between the three of Ronaldo, Messi and Rooney who've all played two World Cup's each, they've only scored three goals as a whole. Shocking.
I doubt that very much, the English are starved for a player who would be lauded as the greatest ever. Plus, they'd be supporting the player going into the tournament whereas Leo gets less of that. Even the selection process for the NT involves a great deal of bias, often excluding many European based players - my guess is that stems from pressure from both the AFA & home fans
I imagine Marcos can weigh in better but doesn't surprise me that many Argentines see Messi more as a Spaniard/Catalan
Sounds like you've just painted a very Rooney shaped portrait. Well done Picasso.
I reckon if Rooney has an absolute wreck of a WC he will be booed a lot this year.
Well, no shit I did, I wasn't exactly trying not to. It applies to more than just Rooney, though.
Has his performances been that bad?
That's how my dad pronounces itThe comparison that the journalist is doing is unfair. Hes comparing a player that won a national championship playing for boca juniors with a player that was never a part of an argentinian team. And from that he concludes that messi is not liked much in argentina, which is an overstatement. In fact, he names Tevez as one of the argentinian "heroes" when the truth is that he wasnt called by sabella and nothing much happened, while i'm sure that if he hadnt call messi he would have seen riots. The fact that messi is in a lot of comercials shown in argentina is another proof that he is very well liked there, else, would the companies pay his enormous fees for an unsuccesfull campaign?
He's been really good imo.
Really carried Argentina...been disappointed with Aguero and Di Maria though
Really carried Argentina...been disappointed with Aguero and Di Maria though
Nowhere near the kind of form expected from him but he has still been the difference in two matches. I have a feeling his performances will get better. Its very possible that this could be his tournament.
I like people like you
Madrid fan but can like rival players.
I think the two more prominent Madrid fans on the forum, Raul Madrid and Vato are both excellent posters and very fair in their assessments.
Thanks
. No point wasting my energy hating such a great player, its better to just enjoy him.With Argentina having a easy path to the semi final they have a good chance of making the final.
Brazil VS Argentina final would be manic. Imagine a 90th minute Messi winner.. Brazil would riot
Do Brazilian's respect Messi or hate/dislike him whats the general opinion?
Brazil VS Argentina final would be manic. Imagine a 90th minute Messi winner.. Brazil would riot
Do Brazilian's respect Messi or hate/dislike him whats the general opinion?
Something happened to his movement in the past 1 or 2 seasons and I'm not talking just about the defensive phase. He often appears lacklustre, trotting around the pitch, not bothering to challenge opponents only a few feet away from him, not making himself available to receive key passes ... I wasn't sure during the season if this is possibly about "preserving" himself for the World Cup, particularly after his injury woes, but it continues for Argentina. Strange. Really wonder how much of it is down to injuries. So far his overall play is a long shot from what he (and with him Argentina) used to do during their qualifiers. Here is a video to recall how he played a year ago (possibly his best performance for the Albiceleste):
Decisive as ever infront of goal though. Is there a better goalscorer from outside the box right now?
Decisive as ever infront of goal though. Is there a better goalscorer from outside the box right now?
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he's alot like ibra now, very little support movement when he's not directly involved with the play. Possibly he has very low stamina these days.
Yeah, it's a big change. Sad to see. It's not going to matter to his 'legacy' if his all round game continues to be weaker and he scores the goals that take Argentina (at least close) to the WC, but it's going to affect Barca in the next few years - as it did last season. He was such a dominating player at his peak that the whole attack ran through him, his passing and decision making's looked off for over a year now meaning that that won't work anymore.
I miss him being able to dribble like he can in that video too.
I miss him being able to dribble like he can in that video too.