Memphis seems like the kind of guy who would get upset if people call him useless and use that as motivation to improve. Kind of like Shaw.
Memphis | Manchester United Sub | Officially unravelled
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If he played there before he can learn to play there again. Really he needs to be able to play both sides anyway.
Takes a special type of snob to judge a footballer because he listens to rap music and likes to wear fancy caps.
This forum at times, absolutely embarassing arguments being placed here.
Hope we do give him another chance next season, some sort of make or break season for him.
Hope we do give him another chance next season, some sort of make or break season for him.
I don't think anyone is suggesting we bin him after one season.
I dont think he can make it. He doesn't have the brain and the maturity to ride his purple patch.
He should just go with the basic, keep it tidy instead of keep on trying to mesmerized people with his ability. It's like a dota player always aiming for solo penta kill and failed. Just keep the basic right and the moment will come.
Good players knows when he's on low confidence and have tricks up his sleeve to keep his game of ticking at an acceptable level and not stinking up the team till he get his mojo back
He should just go with the basic, keep it tidy instead of keep on trying to mesmerized people with his ability. It's like a dota player always aiming for solo penta kill and failed. Just keep the basic right and the moment will come.
Good players knows when he's on low confidence and have tricks up his sleeve to keep his game of ticking at an acceptable level and not stinking up the team till he get his mojo back
It isn't snobbish when the guy in question earns 100 times more than you do and does little or nothing for it. I think you need to revisit your definition of snobbish to be honest.
He get's paid the market rate for his profession and so do i for what i do, it's the way our economy and society works. I have absolutely no problem with him being paid what he does. His contract is between him and the club no one else.
Spot On
The game may be fake but 2 of his managers are known goons. One is doing life for murder of a G-Unit associate, the other just publicly threatened 50, Young Buck and Co. This is becoming a hip hop thread. Lets not digress
I don't care about his taste in music or cars but if he walks around with the mentality that he's made it because he's now flash then I have an issue.
Fergie and the seniors always tried to encourage humbleness as with the money these lads earn they can fall into the trap of already feeling like they've hit the top when they come to us. Let's face it some who come through will only care about the money and lifestyle.
The lad should enjoy his money but he should also be focused on earning it.
Like who?
I shouldn't say.
I hear people on pod's and such talking about how he's done and should be sold in the summer. I think that is kind of harsh. I am excited to see what another manager can do with him. I think he will come good. He has clearly got some skill...he needs at least another year. I would love to see Memphis, Martial, and Rashford as a front 3 switching up from time to time from up front, left, and right. I think the 3 of them want exciting football and all 3 have the goods to produce something special between them. Another couple of years with them and we could be looking at them like we did Rooney, Ronaldo, and Tevez.
I rate all our attacking players ahead of him. He creates no hole in the squad because he brings virtually nothing to the team. If januzaj and Pereira hadn't been in LVG's bad books he wouldn't even get on the bench. Get whatever money we can for him and move on and hopefully sign players who are a lot more talented than Depay.
Another year or two before a proper judgement can be made? What the feck? We're not a fecking charity.
And he got chances early on in the season, completely undeservedly I might add given there was no way Young should have been dropped, and was atrocious and had to be taken off at HT on more than one occasion. The last thing Depay should be complaining about is a lack of chances. He's had far more than he deserved.
I am. He's not good enough. We need to start being more ruthless not holding on to players for years before we eventually decide they are not good enough. Unlike some others Depay hasn't shown anything to justify keeping hold of him.
People can mention Ronaldo all they want but as annoyingly frustrating and inconsistent Ronaldo was his incredible talent was blatantly obvious. Nani had loads of frustrating moments but again his skill and ability with the ball was unquestionable even in his first couple of seasons. Depay looks nowhere near that level.
Hurr hurr.
This post is an utter cretin.
Yep, you're right, Ronaldo was a different level to Memphis. Even in his first season, aged 18, he did more than Memphis did last year.
If Memphis adapts to the league, he could be a success at United, but as others have said, the best he can aim for is to be a squad player. I genuinely think he has to slim down as well.
I thought you were to say people who spend 1 million quid in 6 months on matte camouflage paint, initials carved in ostrich leather or loosing the ball when we're counter attacking.
I wonder what is he singing about:
I wonder what is he singing about:
It's funny, i've seen you claim how LVGs ruined Januzaj yet none of that goes for Memphis because? Januzaj, as much as I hope and believe in him, has shown feck all in the last two seasons. not only for us but at Dortmund aswell. He's looked just as much of a shadow as Memphis has. I have high hopes for Pereira aswell but he's not a winger and hasn't even broken into senior level football yet.
As it stands we should be looking at a RM, at least one CM, a CB and after that perhaps a CF and a natural LB. With the market being the way it is there are no way we can keep replacing in 5-6 positions every summer and "hope", as you say, that some of them stick.
"More talented players", such as Di Maria?
He's young, foreign, earns a lot of money, and isn't forelock-tuggingly grateful for the financial 'good fortune' commensurate with his talent and potential; no wonder the British press have declared war on him.
Or he's a 22 year old, living in a new country, at a new club, in a new league and he should be given at least a season to acclimatize. I wouldn't be seen dead in half the stuff he wears but then I wouldn't be seen dead in half the stuff I wore at 22 either.
You're judging his attitude on his preference to popular culture which is a bit daft to be honest.
What does the fact that he's new to the U.K. have anything to do with his Youtube rap videos or his schnide fashion accessories?
Like you, I think we should give him another season. It would be a big mistake to bin him off after a single season, one in which the team as a whole have been woeful and LVG has stifled the life out of every single one of our attacking players. He's clearly got talent and we should persevere.
That said, he has been massively disappointing so far and his obvious love of bling doesn't create a great impression.
Because unlike Januzaj, Memphis got a sustained run of games in his favoured position and has still been shit? Two, I've never thought Depay was all tat talented and he's done nothing to change my mind since. He might become a decent squad player at best.
So, because we need too many players we should stick with someone who's looked nowhere near good enough? Bizarre logic. Besides, we have enough squad players to not miss another average one.
Yes, more talented players like Di Maria. Are you suggesting we accept mediocrity because one of our big signings didn't work out?
What does his Youtube videos or fashion sense have to do with his performances?
This guy is one of the greatest players ever to play the game. Maybe you could take a look at the image above and judge his abilities as a footballer for me?
I wonder what the reaction would be if instead he collected fine art and wore classic fashion styles? I suppose then he'd be a 'poof', and not manly enough for the warrior-like world of Premier League football...y'know, that League in which players are continually furious yet hardly ever throw a punch, such is the cowardice of their conviction; talk about posers...
Oh come on, Adnan has had plenty of chances between ouselves and Dortumund and has clearly failed to impress. The fact that you've never seen anything in Memphis is irrelevant.
No obviously not but we're not in a place where we should discard players frivolously. A scatter-gun approach will give you scatter-gun returns in more average players, but nothing comes cheap anymore which increase the risks as we've seen with Rojo, Schneiderlin, Blind, Darmian etc. We have to allow the squad to settle at some point. He's done plenty to prove that he isn't an average talent.
No i'm saying that every player can fail, and under Van Gaal that's been the pattern for our most of our attacking talents so maybe we should try changing the manager before going through another transfer-merry-go-round.
Januzaj also has got plenty of chances to impress even though they aren't enough for his fanboys here. Barring the first six months of his breakout season, I don't think he has shown even similar amount of quality for the first team as Depay has.
The impression his personal habits/preferences make is irrelevant.
Everytime his teammates talk about him, they say how hard he works on the pitch, putting in extra hours, coaches saying the same and talking about how determined he is. He was a physical beast at 18, not because of genetics but because he did everything for the game he loves and knew it would help him. So it's not about the work ethic I think, bling, and rap, havent got anything to do with his performances as well. It just hasnt worked out so far and that can happen at times. The league is too fast for him at the moment, but it looked like he controlled that a bit better since pretty much Sunderland away, he hasnt been really awful since. Far more matured performances eversince, shame for him that Martial is excellent on the left.
Before I decide on how to respond to your post could you please answer the following questions so I can know for sure everything there is to know about you:
1. What music do you listen to?
2. What attire would you wear if you were at home and realised you needed milk and had to pop to the shop?
3. What car do you drive?
4. Actually no, that's enough information for me to make a conclusion.
I'm uneasy about LVG & Giggs - both so intransigent in their opinions on football - judging whether Memphis is up to it or not. Smacks of the summary dismissal of Chicha and others, which I disliked.
Good to know you've reached a conclusion. Please divulge what you've gleaned about me. Hopefully I'm absolutely nothing like you.
Some exceptional spelling and grammar in your post by the way.
One would think they are less likely to dismiss him quickly because they bought him.
You haven't answered the questions ffs, you've cut out the key part of my post.
I can't know what kind of person you are until I know what music you listen to and what clothes you wear!
This is your logic, don't blame me for utilising it.
Forgive me if I don't take spelling/grammar pointers from a person incapable of basic comprehension.
I wonder if people who claim "he's clearly very talented" have seen this on the pitch in United shirt, or just heard that he scored a lot of goals in Holland.
He gets his gear from Schneiderlin?
Bah. When Stuart Pearce would bore the arses off his teammates with million-decibel punk rock, no-one called him a gonk with too much money...even when he'd get sent off during the pre-game handshake. The mad twat.
Ok let's get this thread back on track (and yes I know I'm the one whose comment derailed it in the first place).
Depay will definitely be here next year IMO. Even if we wanted to sell, who would buy him? No-one in the PL would touch him and he's on £90,000 a week, which is more than the vast majority of foreign clubs could afford. I guess he could end up somewhere like Milan, but I don't see why they'd want to take the risk.
Hopefully he can take his opportunities next year. Mourinho, if he comes, will work him hard and that could be the making of him.
EDIT: a reported £90,000 a week.
Depay will definitely be here next year IMO. Even if we wanted to sell, who would buy him? No-one in the PL would touch him and he's on £90,000 a week, which is more than the vast majority of foreign clubs could afford. I guess he could end up somewhere like Milan, but I don't see why they'd want to take the risk.
Hopefully he can take his opportunities next year. Mourinho, if he comes, will work him hard and that could be the making of him.
EDIT: a reported £90,000 a week.
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