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RUMOURS: Man Utd to ditch Memphis from Goal.com

Would be extremely embarrassing if true. He's had a terrible season for sure but the manager's sanity must be questioned if he spunk out big money on a player only to sell him after one season. Particularly a winger where confidence and form is everything. Memphis obviously has the talent but has been unable to show it for whatever reasons.
 
Does he really have the talent? I've not yet seen anything to suggest so far. He's played well in Europe against Brugge and Midtjylland. But when the level of opposition has increased he has been found out which is worrying.
 
I doubt Van Gaal has anything to say about transfers anymore, he will most likely be off in a month so for him sanction anything regarding transfers I'd regard as utter nonsense.
 
We're surely not going to 'ditch' him. We'd get considerably less than half of our money back and there is a good player in there, he just needs a bit of patience and someone to make him feel important.
 
RUMOURS: Man Utd to ditch Memphis from Goal.com

Would be extremely embarrassing if true. He's had a terrible season for sure but the manager's sanity must be questioned if he spunk out big money on a player only to sell him after one season. Particularly a winger where confidence and form is everything. Memphis obviously has the talent but has been unable to show it for whatever reasons.
We have already done that before with Di Maria. I wouldn't be surprised if he did it again.
 
We have already done that before with Di Maria. I wouldn't be surprised if he did it again.

That's what I was thinking and why it would be so embarrassing to have it happen again.

@Bojan11, I can definitely see why you would think that. I still have hope though.
 
We have already done that before with Di Maria. I wouldn't be surprised if he did it again.

That's what I was thinking and why it would be so embarrassing to have it happen again.

@Bojan11, I can definitely see why you would think that. I still have hope though.

It comes down to attitude. We were Di Maria's 3rd choice (staying at Real, PSG) and his heart wasn't in it for very long. If Depay is showing the same lack of commitment - and on-the-pitch only tells part of the story - then maybe it's best to get rid. If he's still committed but things just aren't clicking for him, then it's too early. A different manager might get more out of him.
 
He just looks like a one trick pony to me and even that is ineffective.

In Holland did he always just cut in and whack it? Might work in the championship but most premiership defences will close him down sufficiently.

I wouldn't sell him but I'd still rather Adnan got his chance ahead of him.
 
I doubt that we're looking to ditch him already but Martial is looking like he will have that LW position locked down for years. If he wants regular first team football here he's going to struggle on anything we've seen so far.
 
Why do you think he did not want to be here? I'll just answer that for you - the manager.
It doesn't really matter what the reason behind it was, keeping players against their will benefits no one. Especially in the case of Memphis when you have a young player who hasn't progressed anywhere near as expected it would be very counter productive to force him to stay both for his and our own sake.
 
If we sell Memphis, it will be for different reasons to Di Maria. Di Maria didn't want to be here. If we sell Memphis it will be because the coaches have looked at him and think he's not going to be good enough and never will be. I don't think it will be Memphis pushing for a move.
 
Lots and lots of stories about how Giggs started mentoring him and coaching him individually and apparently, even he's gotten sick of him.
If this is true, then I think he's a goner. It's better to sell a player you've given up on asap before his value plummets.
 
It comes down to attitude. We were Di Maria's 3rd choice (staying at Real, PSG) and his heart wasn't in it for very long. If Depay is showing the same lack of commitment - and on-the-pitch only tells part of the story - then maybe it's best to get rid. If he's still committed but things just aren't clicking for him, then it's too early. A different manager might get more out of him.
Says a lot about the coach as well as the player if there's any truth to it.

I doubt a new coach would hastily ditch players signed so recently though, so I expect he will get another chance.
 
He just looks like a one trick pony to me and even that is ineffective.

In Holland did he always just cut in and whack it? Might work in the championship but most premiership defences will close him down sufficiently.

I wouldn't sell him but I'd still rather Adnan got his chance ahead of him.
He's he did. His shooting stats were ridiculous in terms of attempts. The thing is in Holland defenders gave him just enough space to get his shot away. His dribbling has always been sketchy. It's why I didn't want us to sign him. I feared he wasn't technically proficient enough to find enough space to shoot in this league. I said as much in the newbies.
People have said his problem is decision making but I think it's more than that. He needs time for everything he does and at this level it's simply not good enough.
 
It doesn't really matter what the reason behind it was, keeping players against their will benefits no one. Especially in the case of Memphis when you have a young player who hasn't progressed anywhere near as expected it would be very counter productive to force him to stay both for his and our own sake.
How do you know he wants to leave? From what's being written it would appear that LVG has a problem with him, not the other way round.
He's had a shit first season, I'm sure no one would argue otherwise, but the idea of ditching him, some 9 months in, with the same capriciousness that saw Di Maria binned is nothing short of ridiculous. And from what the latter has said of late his primary issue with Utd was the manager's insistence on dropping him without a reasonable run, in his debut season, when he wanted to fight for his position and justify the transfer. I appreciate the fact that he was a pussy when it came to adapting to life in a another country, but I just find it a bit embarrassing if our manager bins another potentially talented player with the same casualness that saw our record signing leave within a year.
I think that LVG has done a decent job in moving on some personnel who had almost taken root at the club, but I'd like to think that we can stand by our players, particularly the one's we've only just signed, for at least a couple of seasons before reaching for the dump button.

I suppose at this point no one knows what the true story is, and maybe this is all paper BS, but I just hope that before a decision is made all avenues have been considered, and it's not just a case that Louis has once again made a unilateral decision because a player can't conform to his straight-jacketed notion of what constitutes short term progress within his wider footballing philosophy.
 
We won't get rid after 1 season that's just ridiculous. Yes his season hasn't gone to plan but that's partly due to our team being mainly rubbish for most of it, the lack of help from the LB and him adjusting to the pace of the league.

He's definitely improved recently but he's had martial infront of him, I have no doubts with a run of games he could turn it on again. I do think he needs to vary his game more though, going down the line and crossing is important to keep the defenders guessing.

The weird thing is his finishing has suffered this year, at PSV he used to strike the ball so cleanly. I think he's tries so hard to score he's over powering the shots and messing up his technique.
 
This would be ridiculous, if true. He's 21, ffs, in his first season in the PL, under a shit-stick of a manager, denied minutes because of a wonderkid like Martial.

We know what he's capable of on his day. We know the flair and talent are there. Wait for another season and more reasons, I'd say.
 
This would be ridiculous, if true. He's 21, ffs, in his first season in the PL, under a shit-stick of a manager, denied minutes because of a wonderkid like Martial.

We know what he's capable of on his day. We know the flair and talent are there. Wait for another season and more reasons, I'd say.
Precisely, young player and its a big step up from the Eredivise to the top of the prem. Martial is a freak - not all players can take that jump so easily.
 
With Martial's performances on the left, it's easy to forget Memphis is also a promising young player with a bright future. He's largely been shite, for large chunks of the season but there's no way we're flogging him after a season.

We have a light set of attackers as it is, we need to add to them before we sell more!
 
He just looks like a one trick pony to me and even that is ineffective.

In Holland did he always just cut in and whack it? Might work in the championship but most premiership defences will close him down sufficiently.

I wouldn't sell him but I'd still rather Adnan got his chance ahead of him.

Give it a rest.... Rather Adan not embarrass himself anymore with crap first team appearances let alone sacrifice Memphis for him.
 
He's he did. His shooting stats were ridiculous in terms of attempts. The thing is in Holland defenders gave him just enough space to get his shot away. His dribbling has always been sketchy. It's why I didn't want us to sign him. I feared he wasn't technically proficient enough to find enough space to shoot in this league. I said as much in the newbies.
People have said his problem is decision making but I think it's more than that. He needs time for everything he does and at this level it's simply not good enough.

Let's see the evidence of you question in his shooting in the EPL then!!
 
Let's see the evidence of you question in his shooting in the EPL then!!
I don't question his shooting. I question him getting enough space to shoot regularly in this league. His shooting is his main asset. He has to learn to create space for decent shooting angles.
 
I was very excited when we signed him but these days I even question all this undoubted taking he supposedly has. Simply because 90% of his performances have been truly abysmal.

I hope I'm wrong and he kicks on next season with us, but yeah, im not holding my breathe.
 
We're telling anybody who'll listen that we're willing to sell him on the cheap :lol:
 
I don't question his shooting. I question him getting enough space to shoot regularly in this league. His shooting is his main asset. He has to learn to create space for decent shooting angles.

What you are describing is infact the key of what we call "settling", the difference between leagues is very often limited to the rhythm of the game and players have to adapt and change their timing, if your timing is off you have less time and space, that's what Memphis is currently experiencing. He could be flying next season.
 
Give it a rest.... Rather Adan not embarrass himself anymore with crap first team appearances let alone sacrifice Memphis for him.
Yeah let's give up on everyone, sell the club and buy messi, Ronaldo and everyone
 
He'll 1000% come good eventually, if given the chance.
 
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