Memphis Depay | PSV confirm deal with Man Utd is agreed!

[Bloedrood]

9:47am -
"So: #ManchesterUnited is concrete in the market for #Memphis, confirm the executives of #PSV at @FOXSportsnl"

7:22pm -
"And the cut and paste sites are now people behind the cut that only half listening. I think Memphis is going to United. No more."

EDIT - twitter links removed as requested, translations left for awareness regarding speculation.

That 2nd tweet isn't about the 1st by the way. He said something on local tv during PSV's celebrations today, basically made a prediction about where Depay will go and for how much. And some sites took it as more than a prediction, thats where that 2nd tweet was about.

That tweet about us being concrete is about what their DoF said earlier today. That we're one of three clubs that have approached them for Depay. But thus far there's only been a phone call, no offer or negotiations.

 

[Iron Stove]

Won't be a bidding war I think. PSV's director has said it'll be upto Depay where he goes, and that he's confident he can make it work with the club Depay chooses.

That PSV director by the way, worked as technical director for AZ during Van Gaal's time there. They're on very good terms.

PSG probably have bigger fish to fry, FFP has clearly crippled them and I don't know if they'd be able to afford another "Lucas" as it stands. A winger must be a priority for them though. With Lucas not having lived up to his potential and being troubled by injuries, and Lavezzi being a bit shit while also probably leaving in the summer they're in desperate need of quality in wide positions.

I hope you guys are right. Not sure how much FFP is hurting them at the moment, but having seen them spend ridiculous amounts in the past it's somewhat worrying.

 

[Striker10]

I don't think Depay will be going to PSG anytime soon. I'm sure we'll see Depay at Old Trafford next season. I think it's pretty much a certainty.

 

[NL Max]

I hope you guys are right. Not sure how much FFP is hurting them at the moment, but having seen them spend ridiculous amounts in the past it's somewhat worrying.

I've posted this many times already, but there is no competing with us for the signature of Memphis. Van Gaal brought him to the national team at age 19, when he just broke trough in the first team. He still had personal problems at this time, he cared more about money and looked too condident of himself. The fact he chose him and not a different talent from the ED (we've got plenty) meant alot to him.

Him joining the national squad changed something in him. He matured much faster and he got over these problems. This won't be 100% down to van Gaal, but I'm certain he had a hand in this. Van Gaal has his 'totale mens principe' (total human picture..?). He likes to brag about this and basically it means he cares about his players. He wants them to feel good, he thinks they'll perform better this way. Van Gaal can be like a father to his players, he's open for conversations about personal problems with each and every one at any given time. Memphis doesn't have contact with his own father (that's why he doesn't want to be called Depay - his fathers' name) and his grandfather, who meant alot to him, passed away. I think van Gaal will be a person he looks up to, in several interviews he praised him and called him an important man in his life.

We can offer as much, if not more than any rival club (bidding wise and wages). That will not be a problem: PSV got a gentlemens agreement to sell him if the price is right, they won't force him onto the biggest bidder. They held onto him after last season which is already an achievement for a Dutch club (they declined a 20m Euro offer - Dutch clubs normally can't do this). He favorites 2 tweets which link him to us, VI (reliable) says his surroundings all suggest he's coming and Thijs Slegers said we've shown serious interest.

There's no other club who can match the van Gaal factor or out-bid us in wages. He wants to come here. PSG also haven't been very nice to van der Wiel at times, I think he'll have his reservations about joining them.

I'll say it again: if Memphis gets to choose between us or a different club - he will choose us, 100% guaranteed. He will only go to a different club if we aren't in for him. The only (slight) worry is that van Gaal is content with the current wingers or wants someone else, but I'm sure he'll be interested. He will have followed him too this season and he can offer us goals from the wings which we currently don't have alot of.

 

[Iron Stove]

I've posted this many times already, but there is no competing with us for the signature of Memphis. Van Gaal brought him to the national team at age 19, when he just broke trough in the first team. He still had personal problems at this time, he cared more about money and looked too condident of himself. The fact he chose him and not a different talent from the ED (we've got plenty) meant alot to him.

Him joining the national squad changed something in him. He matured much faster and he got over these problems. This won't be 100% down to van Gaal, but I'm certain he had a hand in this. Van Gaal has his 'totale mens principe' (total human picture..?). He likes to brag about this and basically it means he cares about his players. He wants them to feel good, he thinks they'll perform better this way. Van Gaal can be like a father to his players, he's open for conversations about personal problems with each and every one at any given time. Memphis doesn't have contact with his own father (that's why he doesn't want to be called Depay - his fathers' name) and his grandfather, who meant alot to him, passed away. I think van Gaal will be a person he looks up to, in several interviews he praised him and called him an important man in his life.

We can offer as much, if not more than any rival club (bidding wise and wages). That will not be a problem: PSV got a gentlemens agreement to sell him if the price is right, they won't force him onto the biggest bidder. They held onto him after last season which is already an achievement for a Dutch club (they declined a 20m Euro offer - Dutch clubs normally can't do this). He favorites 2 tweets which link him to us, VI (reliable) says his surroundings all suggest he's coming and Thijs Slegers said we've shown serious interest.

There's no other club who can match the van Gaal factor or out-bid us in wages. He wants to come here. PSG also haven't been very nice to van der Wiel at times, I think he'll have his reservations about joining them.

I'll say it again: if Memphis gets to choose between us or a different club - he will choose us, 100% guaranteed. He will only go to a different club if we aren't in for him. The only (slight) worry is that van Gaal is content with the current wingers or wants someone else, but I'm sure he'll be interested. He will have followed him too this season and he can offer us goals from the wings which we currently don't have alot of.

Memphis seems like a perfect target for us. Young, hungry and with a ton of talent without being an established superstar yet. I love signings like that. Everything seems to point towards us signing him.

As a muppet I've been burnt too many times though, so you get a bit cynical even if it seems all but done. Until you see a non-photoshopped picture of him in a United shirt, there are always doubts.

 

[Cantonaaa!]

Hope you are right @NL Max !

 

[Raoul]

I've posted this many times already, but there is no competing with us for the signature of Memphis. Van Gaal brought him to the national team at age 19, when he just broke trough in the first team. He still had personal problems at this time, he cared more about money and looked too condident of himself. The fact he chose him and not a different talent from the ED (we've got plenty) meant alot to him.

Him joining the national squad changed something in him. He matured much faster and he got over these problems. This won't be 100% down to van Gaal, but I'm certain he had a hand in this. Van Gaal has his 'totale mens principe' (total human picture..?). He likes to brag about this and basically it means he cares about his players. He wants them to feel good, he thinks they'll perform better this way. Van Gaal can be like a father to his players, he's open for conversations about personal problems with each and every one at any given time. Memphis doesn't have contact with his own father (that's why he doesn't want to be called Depay - his fathers' name) and his grandfather, who meant alot to him, passed away. I think van Gaal will be a person he looks up to, in several interviews he praised him and called him an important man in his life.

We can offer as much, if not more than any rival club (bidding wise and wages). That will not be a problem: PSV got a gentlemens agreement to sell him if the price is right, they won't force him onto the biggest bidder. They held onto him after last season which is already an achievement for a Dutch club (they declined a 20m Euro offer - Dutch clubs normally can't do this). He favorites 2 tweets which link him to us, VI (reliable) says his surroundings all suggest he's coming and Thijs Slegers said we've shown serious interest.

There's no other club who can match the van Gaal factor or out-bid us in wages. He wants to come here. PSG also haven't been very nice to van der Wiel at times, I think he'll have his reservations about joining them.

I'll say it again: if Memphis gets to choose between us or a different club - he will choose us, 100% guaranteed. He will only go to a different club if we aren't in for him. The only (slight) worry is that van Gaal is content with the current wingers or wants someone else, but I'm sure he'll be interested. He will have followed him too this season and he can offer us goals from the wings which we currently don't have alot of.

We don't really have much option in terms of wingers. Valencia's days as a pure winger are probably over and Nani may well be sold, leaving just Ashley Young (assuming Januzaj is loaned). I suppose an interesting scenario would be if we pursue Bale, which would certainly undercut Depay's playing time.

 

[Asger]

Di Maria is also a winger. Next season I would be happy with Di Maria, Depay, Young and Nani. Loan Januzaj and Mata can play am.

 

[NL Max]

We don't really have much option in terms of wingers. Valencia's days as a pure winger are probably over and Nani may well be sold, leaving just Ashley Young (assuming Januzaj is loaned). I suppose an interesting scenario would be if we pursue Bale, which would certainly undercut Depay's playing time.

I think Nani will leave and Mata will mostly play in midfield, this way Memphis should get plenty of games rotating with Young. No idea about Januzaj, could stay behind Di Maria (assuming I'm right about Mata) or indeed go on loan.

I'm not sure if van Gaal is interested in Bale, he'd be our 4th(!) left footed player who can play out wide - our only right footed one will be a 30 year old Young, this isn't balanced. He likes inverted wingers and for a 1/4th of the price (and probably in wages too) we could get a potential new star who's right footed - who van Gaal already knows. Buying Bale will also seriously hamper our spending on others and I doubt van Gaal will want to leave more holes in the selection for next year. Memphis is more value for money.

 

[Raoul]

I think Nani will leave and Mata will mostly play in midfield, this way Memphis should get plenty of games rotating with Young. No idea about Januzaj, could stay behind Di Maria (assuming I'm right about Mata) or indeed go on loan.

I'm not sure if van Gaal is interested in Bale, he'd be our 4th(!) left footed player who can play out wide - our only right footed one will be a 30 year old Young, this isn't balanced. He likes inverted wingers and for a 1/4th of the price (and probably in wages too) we could get a potential new star who's right footed - who van Gaal already knows. Buying Bale will also seriously hamper our spending on others and I doubt van Gaal will want to leave more holes in the selection for next year. Memphis is more value for money.

I agree on much of this. Nani seems to have one foot out the door and Mata will eventually go back to more of a central role, although LvG will once again have a selection headache on his hands next year in terms of squeezing each of Depay, Mata, Herrera, Blind, Fellaini Carrick, Di Maria, Young, and Val into the lineup. Someone will either have to rotate in off the bench or be sold. Hopefully he will take care of his striker headache by getting rid of Falcao and either selling or benching RvP for special situations. Then it would come down to Depay and Young duking it out for playing time on the left and possibly Mata and Di Maria on the right.

 

[Raoul]

http://www1.skysports.com/football/...united-make-memphis-depay-enquiry-psv-confirm

 

[NL Max]

I agree on much of this. Nani seems to have one foot out the door and Mata will eventually go back to more of a central role, although LvG will once again have a selection headache on his hands next year in terms of squeezing each of Depay, Mata, Herrera, Blind, Fellaini Carrick, Di Maria, Young, and Val into the lineup. Someone will either have to rotate in off the bench or be sold. Hopefully he will take care of his striker headache by getting rid of Falcao and either selling or benching RvP for special situations. Then it would come down to Depay and Young duking it out for playing time on the left and possibly Mata and Di Maria on the right.

The RvP situation is still my biggest uncertainty for next season. My guess is that he will stay as 2nd choice and still get plenty of games, but it shouldn't interfere too much with the options for the wing anyways. He likes multifunctional players, but: his strikers need to be able to hold up the ball. These players usually aren't suited for playing on the wing since they're more physical - he never played RvP out of position to fit in Huntelaar, one of Hollands' best players. I can't think of many strikers who fit into van Gaal's striker profile who would also fit his profile for a winger. Especially not one who will be 2nd choice.

Nani will probably want first team football, van Gaal can't guarantee him that. I like him very much, but I'm pretty sure it's best for both parties if he moved on.

If we bring in a new defensive CM Mata could play in MF again (he will have his 'balance'), but still be an option on the wing to flood the midfield. Young and Memphis will duke it out on the left and Di Maria, Januzaj (and occasionally Mata) on the right. This would give him multifunctionality and enough cover for each position up front and in midfield.

This is how I think it will work out - RvP could be replaced, maybe Januzaj gets loaned but for the rest I'm pretty certain. Especially since I'm convinced Memphis is coming but that is biased

 

[MyOnlySolskjaer]

http://www1.skysports.com/football/...united-make-memphis-depay-enquiry-psv-confirm

Woohoooooooooooooo!

 

[Scorpy]

http://www1.skysports.com/football/...united-make-memphis-depay-enquiry-psv-confirm

 

[Ole's_toe_poke]

I might as well post it as well

http://www1.skysports.com/football/...united-make-memphis-depay-enquiry-psv-confirm

 

[GDaly95]

I think its gotten to the stage where its not really humorous anymore, but I don't wanna be that guy who kills it.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/...united-make-memphis-depay-enquiry-psv-confirm

Really exciting news, can't see us not getting him.

 

[Señor]

Phone call means feck all. Thiago, Strootman, Vidal and Fabregas sagas in the last two summer windows have made me cynical.

 

[Keeps It tidy]

I really think he will be one of the elite players in the World in a few years. Will be a fantastic signing.

 

[Eila]

Phone call means feck all. Thiago, Strootman, Vidal and Fabregas sagas in the last two summer windows have made me cynical.

The difference this time is the Louis van Gaal connection.
I think this one is in the bag, unless some team comes offering silly promises (and wages).

 

[Señor]

I think this one is in the bag, unless some team comes offering silly promises (and wages).

Thiago was in the bag. "Nos vemos en Manchester".

Then Bayern came along.

 

[Rezyuz]

What i never understand about players like this is, why the feck are they wingers. Just a few managers in the world would actually do different.

- Hes strong
- Fast
- Scores a lot
- Can take out 1-2 opponents.
- 2 footed

Seriously what more do you want in a striker?

Bale - Depay - Di Maria please.

 

[Classical Mechanic]

Thiago was in the bag. "Nos vemos en Manchester".

Then Bayern came along.

Pep had strong links to Thiago. Van Gaal has........

 

[izec]

Thiago was in the bag. "Nos vemos en Manchester".

Then Bayern came along.

thats not the same. De Gea is a muppet.

 

[Mainoldo]

Thiago was in the bag. "Nos vemos en Manchester".

Then Bayern came along.

True he went to play for his football dad.

I think we might be alright (Daddy LVG )

 

[Keeps It tidy]

What i never understand about players like this is, why the feck are they wingers. Just a few managers in the world would actually do different.

- Hes strong
- Fast
- Scores a lot
- Can take out 1-2 opponents.
- 2 footed

Seriously what more do you want in a striker?

Bale - Depay - Di Maria please.

Well guys like Ronaldo and Robben are technically wingers but, provide a lot of what you expect from strikers.

 

[Señor]

Deep down, I know we're favourites for him really but I can't be burned again! Thiago really did a number on me.

 

[hobbers]

We're going to be his first choice, we have the money, and for once we have a manager who doesn't really care about transfer fees.

We'll probably still feck it up.

 

[Rezyuz]

Well guys like Ronaldo and Robben are technically wingers but, provide a lot of what you expect from strikers.

I know, thats why i never understand why you not rather have a 3 technical high speed finishers rather then 2 and 1 lower technique, slower pure finisher.

Real Madrid could have had Bale - Ronaldo - Di Maria. Its hard to imagine that its worse then the current BBC formation.

Atleast Pep was smart enough to do it with Messi.

 

[711]

What i never understand about players like this is, why the feck are they wingers. Just a few managers in the world would actually do different.

- Hes strong
- Fast
- Scores a lot
- Can take out 1-2 opponents.
- 2 footed

Seriously what more do you want in a striker?

Bale - Depay - Di Maria please.

Tends to be down to the 'strong' thing. Playing back to goal with big defenders constantly on you, and playing through you, means you have to be pretty tough, and hold you own the in air as well. There's shedloads like to be second strikers of course, no shortage of them.

 

[limerickcitykid]

Tends to be down to the 'strong' thing. Playing back to goal with big defenders constantly on you, and playing through you, means you have to be pretty tough, and hold you own the in air as well. There's shedloads like to be second strikers of course, no shortage of them.

Yep, having to play with your back to goal and some big cnut sticking his knee up your ass is a whole different ball game. Most players like this wouldn't be able to handle that and hold the ball up well. They also like to run in off the striker who is holding it up and if they're playing as the striker themselves then it takes a big part of their game away from them.

 

[Raoul]

I might as well post it as well

http://www1.skysports.com/football/...united-make-memphis-depay-enquiry-psv-confirm

 

[GifLord]

 

[Devil may care]

The RvP situation is still my biggest uncertainty for next season. My guess is that he will stay as 2nd choice and still get plenty of games, but it shouldn't interfere too much with the options for the wing anyways. He likes multifunctional players, but: his strikers need to be able to hold up the ball. These players usually aren't suited for playing on the wing since they're more physical - he never played RvP out of position to fit in Huntelaar, one of Hollands' best players. I can't think of many strikers who fit into van Gaal's striker profile who would also fit his profile for a winger. Especially not one who will be 2nd choice.

Nani will probably want first team football, van Gaal can't guarantee him that. I like him very much, but I'm pretty sure it's best for both parties if he moved on.

If we bring in a new defensive CM Mata could play in MF again (he will have his 'balance'), but still be an option on the wing to flood the midfield. Young and Memphis will duke it out on the left and Di Maria, Januzaj (and occasionally Mata) on the right. This would give him multifunctionality and enough cover for each position up front and in midfield.

This is how I think it will work out - RvP could be replaced, maybe Januzaj gets loaned but for the rest I'm pretty certain. Especially since I'm convinced Memphis is coming but that is biased

I know you've painted this scenario out before but all that looks like to me is Ander heading back to the bench so Mata can play centrally, so essentially removing 2 thirds of our current CM set-up, I just can't see the logic in it as Mata is too slow and weak to play centrally.

 

[bosnian_red]

I know you've painted this scenario out before but all that looks like to me is Ander heading back to the bench so Mata can play centrally, so essentially removing 2 thirds of our current CM set-up, I just can't see the logic in it as Mata is too slow and weak to play centrally.

I don't think anything is set in stone with regards to the current players and their positions, I'm sure we'll see Mata out wide next season as well as part of the midfield 3. It all will depend on the opponent and the injuries we have and if players are tired. Also I think Herrera will be a key player next season just as he has been the last few months since he's came in the team. He's a consistently brilliant player, can play in any of the 3 midfield positions, always works hard and is a very well rounded player.

For the most part, from out strongest 11, I can see the left wing and Fellaini's position changing to something else. Maybe getting a replacement for Carrick as well, but that's for different reasons obviously. We'll get another midfielder and Fellaini will be more of a squad player I think, but I think it'll be partnering Herrera instead of replacing him.

 

[Devil may care]

I don't think anything is set in stone with regards to the current players and their positions, I'm sure we'll see Mata out wide next season as well as part of the midfield 3. It all will depend on the opponent and the injuries we have and if players are tired. Also I think Herrera will be a key player next season just as he has been the last few months since he's came in the team. He's a consistently brilliant player, can play in any of the 3 midfield positions, always works hard and is a very well rounded player.

For the most part, from out strongest 11, I can see the left wing and Fellaini's position changing to something else. Maybe getting a replacement for Carrick as well, but that's for different reasons obviously. We'll get another midfielder and Fellaini will be more of a squad player I think, but I think it'll be partnering Herrera instead of replacing him.

That's what I am hoping for, despite having decent seasons I think we need to upgrade Fellaini and Young if we are to push on to being title challengers, and Ander absolutely must be a key piece of whatever midfield trio LvG sets up for next season. As far as Mata goes, I just don't see him central in the PL, maybe in the CL but for the league he needs to stay on the right IMO and we also need someone to offer us a different option out there than he does.

 

[bosnian_red]

That's what I am hoping for, despite having decent seasons I think we need to upgrade Fellaini and Young if we are to push on to being title challengers, and Ander absolutely must be a key piece of whatever midfield trio LvG sets up for next season. As far as Mata goes, I just don't see him central in the PL, maybe in the CL but for the league he needs to stay on the right IMO and we also need someone to offer us a different option out there than he does.

I think Mata can be perfectly fine in the middle, he was our best player pretty much in december/early january playing in the middle. Against the big teams though where we want more protection, then he's a better option out wide roaming like he has been.

As for the other option, well we will have Mata, Di maria, Depay, Januzaj and Young all to choose from next season on the wings... Mata and Di Maria probably starting, then if one of them isn't working or out of form, then Depay will probably come in, then Young/Januzaj. Plenty of options and variety there I think. We'll probably need to loan Januzaj anyways so he can get some proper development as I can't see him getting more time then this season if he doesn't really improve with us getting in depay as well.

 

[Devil may care]

I think Mata can be perfectly fine in the middle, he was our best player pretty much in december/early january playing in the middle. Against the big teams though where we want more protection, then he's a better option out wide roaming like he has been.

As for the other option, well we will have Mata, Di maria, Depay, Januzaj and Young all to choose from next season on the wings... Mata and Di Maria probably starting, then if one of them isn't working or out of form, then Depay will probably come in, then Young/Januzaj. Plenty of options and variety there I think. We'll probably need to loan Januzaj anyways so he can get some proper development as I can't see him getting more time then this season if he doesn't really improve with us getting in depay as well.

He mostly played central when we were using the 3-5-2 which gave us the extra defensive protection, in 4-3-3 I can only think of one game where he played as part of the midfield 3. For me if Mata is to play central we would need to play 4-2-3-1 with a player like Schneiderlin brought in to partner Ander.

I think Januzaj really needs to go on loan and the concern for me in there is that Di Maria and Young offer very little goal threat, which would be fine if we had a CM capable of 15 goals, but we don't, and in a front 3 the 3 are meant to be strikers as opposed to 2 wingers and a striker. I just feel like one more option who could also operate as a #9 would be beneficial, and use Young as a multi-position back-up.

 

[NL Max]

He mostly played central when we were using the 3-5-2 which gave us the extra defensive protection, in 4-3-3 I can only think of one game where he played as part of the midfield 3. For me if Mata is to play central we would need to play 4-2-3-1 with a player like Schneiderlin brought in to partner Ander.

I think Januzaj really needs to go on loan and the concern for me in there is that Di Maria and Young offer very little goal threat, which would be fine if we had a CM capable of 15 goals, but we don't, and in a front 3 the 3 are meant to be strikers as opposed to 2 wingers and a striker. I just feel like one more option who could also operate as a #9 would be beneficial, and use Young as a multi-position back-up.

I agree on Schneiderlin, with him I think Mata could realistically play in MF with Herrera. I'm pretty sure that kind of CM is coming. That's why I think we have room for one left winger. Mata can still play on the wing if he wants to flood the midfield as tactic. Van Gaal loves inverted wingers so Di Maria and Januzaj RW, Young LW. Memphis will be a great addition to them and provide something else: goals. Maybe not instantly, but van Gaal loves to use young players.

I could be wrong about this whole scenario, but I know a bit about van Gaal and just try to make an educated guess. This transfer has just such a good chance, why would van Gaal otherwise instruct to call PSV? I'm sure he knows everything about his performances and background already.

Van Gaal's striker have to be big and strong to hold up the ball, that's his perfect striker. Those type of players don't fit his profile for a winger, fast and dribbles. Can't think of many who will come cheap and at the same time be good enough backup for Rooney.

 

[Devil may care]

I agree on Schneiderlin, with him I think Mata could realistically play in MF with Herrera. I'm pretty sure that kind of CM is coming. That's why I think we have room for one left winger. Mata can still play on the wing if he wants to flood the midfield as tactic. Van Gaal loves inverted wingers so Di Maria and Januzaj RW, Young LW. Memphis will be a great addition to them and provide something else: goals. Maybe not instantly, but van Gaal loves to use young players.

I could be wrong about this whole scenario, but I know a bit about van Gaal and just try to make an educated guess. This transfer has just such a good chance, why would van Gaal otherwise instruct to call PSV? I'm sure he knows everything about his performances and background already.

Van Gaal's striker have to be big and strong to hold up the ball, that's his perfect striker. Those type of players don't fit his profile for a winger, fast and dribbles. Can't think of many who will come cheap and at the same time be good enough backup for Rooney.

So Schneiderlin would essentially play in place of Carrick then? With Herrera as the #8 and Mata as the #10? The alternative is that Schneiderlin plays as the #8 but Herrera goes to the bench and that would be a bad move from LvG as Herrera offers more than either to our overall play. Look at the 4 inverted winger options though with Mata in midfield and there is the issue, other than Memphis none of them have any track record for consistent goal scoring, that's why I think Mata has to remain on that right side of the front 3 and we should be looking to add another all round CM to the midfield 3 who can provide goal threat as opposed to being a pure #10.

I am sure LvG is interested in Memphis and given he wants inverted wingers there really aren't many other options out there, most of the best ones are left footers.

That striker profile is going to be an issue I think, of course he's using Rooney who is strong but certainly not big, so I am guessing he'll compromise on the height of a #9 if they are strong enough to hold the ball up?

 

[Classical Mechanic]

.Atleast Pep was smart enough to do it with Messi.

Apparently it was Messi who declared that he would play central.