Memphis Depay | Lyon player

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Young player coming to a new league with a big price tag and expected to help a struggling team - Ordinarily, I would have a lot of sympathy for Memphis.

BUT - I don't think he took things seriously...or really wanted it enough.

Shame...for him and United.
 
Rooney in Paris said:
Mourinho probably has a role in it, but also I guess Woodward is starting to learn his trade in the transfer market, he's still quite new to it and I'm sure he and his teams are constantly progressing in this domain.
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Its all down to Mourinho.
 
Rooney in Paris said:
Mourinho probably has a role in it, but also I guess Woodward is starting to learn his trade in the transfer market, he's still quite new to it and I'm sure he and his teams are constantly progressing in this domain.
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True, and I think the club was very smart not letting them go in the summer and waiting til now. They know teams will pay more in January out of desperation. No chance Everton would've paid that fee for Morgan in the summer.
 
Everyone citing jomo as the person responsible for selling these players at the agreed fees, but surely it is down to Woodward?
 
Good deal for all involved. United could recoup pretty much all that was spent on him.
Buy back and sell on clauses which are great.
Lyon will get a player who is still young and could be more suited to them.
Memphis can get game time and build his confidence.

Also 7 becomes free for a french man next season :)
 
Never have I been so wrong about a player. He's actually terrible.

Good deal.
 
JustAFan said:
Even if they pay it all up front (a rarity I believe except for the lower fees) they still amortize the fee over a period of years (4 or 5 being the most common I have read about).
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It's the length of the contract, which is normally four or five years.

Depay & Schneiderlin were costing us something like £20M a year with their wages and transfer fees, getting rid of them saves us all that money.
 
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Good deal for all parties.

If he fulfils his potential there, then even better for us :)

From literally paying Sporting to take Nani to this :lol: - the contrast in our transfer business is massive
 
Seems very cheap to me, glad we supposedly have a buyback and sellon clause though.
 
Summit said:
Everyone citing Mourinho as the person responsible for selling these players at the agreed fees, but surely it is down to Woodward?
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I'm assuming that the most influence he would have is giving a figure to Woody and asking him to try and hold out for that. I doubt he'd be personally involved with the negotiations.
 
Win-win.

He gets necessary minutes for his development. We free up some wages and a slot in the squad. And should Memphis make the sun rise from the west, we have an option of bringing him back.
 
Was absolutely useless for us. Not saying he doesn't have talent, glad we got a buy back clause on him.
 
Summit said:
Everyone citing Mourinho as the person responsible for selling these players at the agreed fees, but surely it is down to Woodward?
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There is clearly an element of Mourinho not just wanting players gone regardless of the fee but I think, after the Pogba deal, clubs are starting to take Woodward seriously as a negotiator.
 
Summit said:
Everyone citing Mourinho as the person responsible for selling these players at the agreed fees, but surely it is down to Woodward?
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Nah, Mourinho magically transforms the selling ability of any club. Since he left Chelsea its not like we've seen them sell an unwanted Brazilian for 60M.

I'd say there's a mixture of factors at play. Wages of certain players like someone else said with Nani and van Persie (Memphis and Schneiderlin will be on much lower than those), more clubs interested with ability to pay fees (West Brom were interested in Schneiderlin too) and on managerial side Mourinho had the relaxed attitude that they weren't in his plans (obviously, due to lack of games), but if an appropriate deal wasn't agreed that was right for all parties then they'd still be part of the squad for the remainder of the season.
 
faipdeooiad said:
can't see the tweet as i'm in work - what's the deal?
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@TelegraphDucker
#MUFC have agreed a buyback option on Depay as well as a sell on clause with Lyon, who will pay about £16m rising to £21.7m with add ons

@MarkOgden_
Depay to Lyon agreed. Worth up to €25m to United, depending on clauses being met.
 
Mourinho is certainly playing his part, with the way he is publicly talking about Depay and Schneiderlin and saying he personally would prefer to keep them but is willing to let them go as long as we get a good enough fee. Those public comments put us in quite a good bargaining position. He and Woodward are also likely talking to each other about what kind of price we should be getting. But Woodward is the one actually talking to the other teams and doing the direct bargaining.
 
Sounds like the perfect deal.

But sad, really thought he would be a good player for us but he hasn't shown nearly enough of anything.
 
Nanook said:
It's the length of the contract, which is normally four or five years.

Depay & Schneiderlin were costing us something like £20M a year with their wages and transfer fees, getting rid of them saves us all that money.
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Not anymore, with the sellings now it's probably more in the 6M region/year. Don't think either of them got more wages, and the transfer fees are pretty much amortized.
 
Infra-red said:
@TelegraphDucker
#MUFC have agreed a buyback option on Depay as well as a sell on clause with Lyon, who will pay about £16m rising to £21.7m with add ons

@MarkOgden_
Depay to Lyon agreed. Worth up to €25m to United, depending on clauses being met.
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mother of god, they've been done.
 
Great deal. If only we had a similar buy back clause for Chitarito :mad:

Edit: Meant a Sell on clause.
 
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Phenomenal from Woody. Buy-back as well - bit like how Barca send out youngsters they rate.

In the old days that would have literally been a £7m deal
 
JB08 said:
Scratch that, I didn't realise it was equal to £21m! That's more than fair. Thought it was more in the £16m-17m bracket.
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Even the base amount is generous for a player who has not shined since the Midgylland game. The clauses make it a win-win-win deal for us.
 
Will Absolute said:
Woodward has been inept in the transfer market. I still can't believe he effectively let Cleverley go for nothing.
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He may be many things but he actually seems decent on the business side. What has he done wrong that is actually down to him transfer wise?
 
Neutral said:
Young player coming to a new league with a big price tag and expected to help a struggling team - Ordinarily, I would have a lot of sympathy for Memphis.

BUT - I don't think he took things seriously...or really wanted it enough.

Shame...for him and United.
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nail on the head. if he worked as hard as CR7 in training instead of dressing up like Snoop Dogg i think we might have seen a different side. Might work out and with maturity he'll come nack but I doubt it very much
 
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