I wouldn't actually mind seeing Memphis on the right wing for a few games. He's quite predictable when playing on the left in a sense that he always wants to cut inside, but on the right he could play a little bit more like a traditional winger, while also having the license to cut inside. He had a few moments like that for Holland and he looked good.
7
Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 45
- Goals
- 7
- Assists
- 5
- Yellow cards
- 4
- Status
Interesting thought. He definitely needs a lot of improvement still. But bearing in mind that he is 21, and playing in a whole different environment, I still think he'll turn out to be a good player. Definitely not Hazard or Sanchez's league though.
Dutch media and sportspeople are heavily criticizing him today.
The Netherlands are an extremely poor side, he's just the easiest target as he comes across as flashy.
But for United, he needs to be taken out if the firing line.
He was complete garbage in that Czech game.
He's a kid though so his inconsistency is expected, what is concerning me is his body language, he kind of struts around like he's made it, like he's doing everyone around him a favour by being on the pitch, now being an egomaniac is fine........ once you've actually made it (see Cantona, Ronaldo).
Takes to the pitch all bulky looking with his arms greased up, tape around his wrists, fresh shape ups etc, its all very 'showey' tone it down a bit ffs, concentrate on your football.
He's a kid though so his inconsistency is expected, what is concerning me is his body language, he kind of struts around like he's made it, like he's doing everyone around him a favour by being on the pitch, now being an egomaniac is fine........ once you've actually made it (see Cantona, Ronaldo).
Takes to the pitch all bulky looking with his arms greased up, tape around his wrists, fresh shape ups etc, its all very 'showey' tone it down a bit ffs, concentrate on your football.
Whats his haircut got to do with his ability? Hes a human being, he can have any hair he likes
I dont think its cockiness..in a sense, I think its a defensive mechanism..the kid hasnt had the easiest upbringing ..the flashy stuff is almost a shield for him.
However I agree. he has to work harder defensively.
I was about to say the same thing.
Feel for the kid tbh. It's a lot of pressure to play for United. Even the more 'experienced' players in our team struggle at times with the expectations from everywhere and everyone.
People need to realise SAF isn't here anymore. Youngsters are not able to be inconsistent anymore without it being a problem for the team as the media and some fans start getting on their case. For eg. Ronnie could make his mistakes whilst learning the ropes, but we had a solid team and SAF to pull us through and still get the results. There's no such luxury at the moment whilst we're trying to get back on top, and most of our players are still trying to find their feet in the premier league - so the pressure is intense. Can you imagine a youngster in that environment? They are bound to lose some confidence if their form drops off.
Martial is an exception at the moment - but he simply has a different temperament, so can't really compare them imo.
Just remind me of Nani a lot. Nani was a very good player but underachieved drastically. I hope the same doesn't happen to Memphis. He's only 21 though so I'm sure he'll get better.
How would this guy know if people at the club are already fed up? His claims seem to based on nothing
Kid doesn't need this at the moment.How would this guy know if people at the club are already fed up? His claims seem to based on nothing
Was going to Google who he was but, I figured someone on here would know
whereas martial looks extremely lively already, this lad needs fast forwarding for when he's actually ready.
How would this guy know if people at the club are already fed up? His claims seem to based on nothing
Because a fan twitted something negative.
People need to remember that Martial comes from a league with good defenses and athletic players, the adaptation is a lot harder for Memphis.
I said it at the time that giving him the no. 7 was not a good idea..too much too soon..the pressure at United is out of this world. That's why I would ease him out of the side for a while. Fergie perfected this whereby he would take someone out of the firing line for their own good.Not every player can be played back into form. Giving him a rest would be best imo.
Martial has helped him and Rooney tremendously.Just imagine if we didn't have him , the media would have a field day. Especially with Memphis.
Yeah. Definitely need to be taken out of the spotlight for a bit. And agreed he shouldn't have been given the No.7 yet - I think I did say they should have left it dangling there just to have it as an 'incentive'...make him work for it.
Ah well, hope someone at the club has the good sense to make the right decisions concerning him.
I am not so sure about that. I think its just a case of Martial being more talented. Anyway doesn't bother me. I think Depay has the basic tools and the hunger / desire. Lacking in confidence now. Unfortunately we don't have too many options to take him out of the limelight a bit. In the long term he will be better off if he can get thru this struggle. Giggsy can guide him.
Martial is more talented but the adaptation is also easier for him because of where he comes from.
Given Memphis' words about struggling to adapt to the demand of playing twice a week so far, it's almost as if he is wishing to be dropped/rested. I think LvG would be dumb not to. He started brightly, and even in the first 2 or 3 PL games where he didn't score or assist, he looked lively and threatening, used his pace well, made good runs behind and at the defenders. Since then, he looks shot. Jogs around aimlessly and his work rate has deteriorated with each passing game. He could do with a week or two off.
The pressure is a big ask. The last holder of the 7 shirt had to give it back remember?
Playing him constantly then hooking him off at half-time does his morale no favours. Rather "rest"him for a couple of games. Hopefully they will deal with this better.
I'm not worried yet about memphis, i expected a mixed season from him, but i do agree that he has this casual and lazy attitude on the pitch, and it doesn't help that he's always starting regardless to his form.
As frustrating as ronaldo was in his early years, fergie had faith him because he used to train harder than anyone else, he wanted to be the best and worked hard for it. I hope players like memphis, martial and adnan are aware that to be a top player it's not enough to show up at training and do your job, the fire needs to come from within, it'd be tragic if memphis think he's already made it.
As frustrating as ronaldo was in his early years, fergie had faith him because he used to train harder than anyone else, he wanted to be the best and worked hard for it. I hope players like memphis, martial and adnan are aware that to be a top player it's not enough to show up at training and do your job, the fire needs to come from within, it'd be tragic if memphis think he's already made it.
His lack of form (which is not something to be too concerned about yet) makes the Januzaj loan look even more questionable.
In what way? He doesn't even speak the language.
Martial played in a better league against physically strong player while Memphis played in our Dutch Eredivisie against very poor defenders. Premier league has physically strong defenders so its quite new to Memphis while Martial was already used to it. In the Eredivisie Memphis could outmuscle everyone but he cant do that in the premier league so he has to find a new way... and hasnt found one so far.
Martial also played in the CL while Memphis only played EL. Those few minutes Memphis got at the WC dont really matter.
Really though, Martial is also just way more talented. If Martial came from the Eredivisie he would still be better than Memphis.
Come on mate, there are a bunch of valid criticisms one can throw at him without resorting to talking about the shape ups. A man can't get fresh no more?
In all seriousness, I and others can forgive poor form if you actually put a shift in. Cover for your full back. Make yourself available for passes. Keep on driving at the opponent. I remember Ronaldo had ruts of poor form but he never shied away from the ball. The showey flashy stuff doesn't come into it, he's gonna be young only once. There is a problem if he isn't applying himself on the pitch and in training.
I agree he should be free to express himself any way he sees fit, but his fashion choices (hair, the grill, the jacket etc) are like a Ballotelli sized target on his back currently and perhaps he'd best be advised to dial it down a touch to take some of that unnecessary pressure off of himself.
The whole fashion thing and his choices "should be" directly proportional to his performances and at the moment he's making it too easy anyone wishing to turn a professional scathing critique into a personal one.
If he's backing it up on the pitch then no-one will question it, if he doesn't then he's making himself an easier target – because he's going to be a target anyway, even if he turns in an average performance at a club like ours.
He seems to lack determination and some fighting spirit. With him, it looks like the mental state is very important when he wants to reach top form
Needs to be dropped for a few games. I think he is physically and metanlly exausted currently and it is showing in his performances. He also struggles with the league a lot and needs to adapt his game.
Haha, apparently he even wore the wrong shirt to a game. 
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...ring-wrong-netherlands-shirt-in-a6695231.html
He's not in a good spot mentally right now.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...ring-wrong-netherlands-shirt-in-a6695231.htmlHe's not in a good spot mentally right now.
Love the excuses given to Memphis here.He has only himself to blame for his form so far, despite arguably LVG should have introduced him more slowly.
What does that mean? His fashion sense has got nothing to do with his ability. As for balotelli comparison, the difference is that he doesn't do shit like not training well, playing whenever he pleases, getting himself sent off, doing stuff like bursting crackers and almost burning down his house. As against this all Memphis has done is wear weird looking clothes and put on golden teeth. To say that he should dress up how he wants only if he plays well is preposterous. As long as he doesn't miss training, gives his all in games and training sessions, he could dress up like Justin bieber for all I care. Not to mention he has contributed 8 goals for us. You may say it's only Brugge where he got 2 goals and 2 assists against but that was arguably our most important game for the season and got us CL qualification. For someone who hasn't completed 15 games over the season let alone at this level, that's a decent return.
What is surprising is people saying he doesn't have talent when he has plenty of that. What he lacks is experience to know how to act in situations, which cannot be learnt without playing.
(Not all directed at you by the way
)Young injured. Think this is his last chance to prove he should be in the starting 11.
I don't think so really. He will be getting plenty of chances, I am sure van Gaal will be consequent in that.
That said, he's lucky to stay in the side. Should be rested, two 90' games for Holland probably won't help him.
Not as if he does much better tbf.
He was much better
No he wasn't.
He's going to have to work his ass off chasing Coleman down the wing, we have seen he has been a little lazy in that aspect before, hopefully the manager briefs him that he must do his best to track the runs.
Fingers crossed though we are pushing them back instead.
Fingers crossed though we are pushing them back instead.
Lol.
- Status